Muslims ‘Unveiled’

Re:muqaddam#257

[..Mr Lump of should remember that India is the country which gave refuge to his forefathers, who were running from Muslim tyranny in Iran and allowed them to set foot on India....]

Yaar, take it easy on Behram. He suffers from serious ``balls`` envy. He knows his forefathers got their a$$ kicked royally by muslims - most of them converted or fled to India to save themselves. They gave up their great Persian culture and became mental slaves to Arabs. Look at Iran today - a wasteland run by Mullahs and Ahmedinijads. A race of Aryans reduced to the status of lapdogs grovelling at the feet of Arabs and their religion. This is their permanent punishment till eternity - to be second class muslims.

As compared to that, hindus fought for their culture and civilization. We never gave up our religion, and by god, we bounced back. Today Indian civilization is on the rise with both economic and militray power. Iran is a mullah based pathetic joke of a nation. India is respected in the west, Iran is treated like a leper. Indians are welcomed by the west and the Aryan civilizations. Iranians are spitted on by everyone, especially in the west.

As a result, poor Behram has ``balls`` envy. Why couldnt his forefathers have balls to fight and save their Aryan civilization? Why did they capitulate and become mental slaves? Why do they survive by being schmoozers in India and Pakistan to whoever throws crumbs at them? These are the questions that torment Behram as he can see how the mightly Persians are now impotent muslims Iranians - what a descent into filth.

#258 by Naqshbandi


[you CANNOT take a few perverted individuals and use them as proof against the whole of that community to which they belong.

just recently a hindu in canada went into a school and killed some school kids before killing himself. he wasn`t a freshie either but a citizen who`d grown up there. can i take him as an example and say, see hindus in canada aren`t integrated? ]


No, you cannot. He was not doing it in the name of bhagwan Sri Krishna or some other Hindu deity. And his is a stray incident compared to the thousands by Muslims around the globe.

Re# 259
If you are not a Parsee, you are excused.

Re248 by ballukhan on October 20, 2006 0:14am PT

PseudoKhan:

As usual you have written without adding much to knowledge. What the heck this means
{The ``Asura`` (Ahura?) and Sura stories ..the fight getween the bad guys and good guys..............the lightness and darkness...........these stories are common place in all pagan religions............}?

Your response was to what I asserted that it is Zoroastriansm that created the concept of Good and Evil, and I was wondering whether Urstruly saw satan only in the western world? He has not yet responded.

I have already asserted that vibrating mad-mullah-o-crat masadi is a wahabi nut case in the west who could be looked upon as satan. In fact I have given him the title of shaitaan-e-buzorg, which to us Iranians is given to the highest evil existing, and on this chowk, this title is bestowed upon this leftist/rightist weathercock mad-mullah.

Now, if he is of Arabic descent then we must figure out some title in arabic, for which some enlightened muslim of this chowk might be able to help.

Respectfully submitted,

Re: # 257 by muqaddam on October 21, 2006 7:57am PT

You are just used to squatting on the railroad tracks, and claim historical knowledge that you have none. Your upbringing was eating daal that looks more like a new birth`s dung than food which gives your mouth some linguistic flavoring.

Your hindooism notwithstanding, I have never claimed that I was a Parsee from India. But, being a Hindoo, you would not know the difference. Your hindoo brain is stuck between the legs that you have used incessantly squatting on those railroad tracks, and once in awhile, you tickle it to get some answers of why hindoos are hated the world over.

My fealty towards Pakistan is because the muslims of Pakistan have never mistreated me, unlike the hindoos who have burnt 2000 muslims in Gujarat.

And that is what you hindoo Pakistan haters can never understand.

harimau,

you CANNOT take a few perverted individuals and use them as proof against the whole of that community to which they belong.

just recently a hindu in canada went into a school and killed some school kids before killing himself. he wasn`t a freshie either but a citizen who`d grown up there. can i take him as an example and say, see hindus in canada aren`t integrated?

Re #244

Our friend Beharami seems to be back with a fang. Here`s a repeat of an earlier post to remind him of what one thinks of him:

Janab Tatti( due to his obsession with shitters by the railroad, if he is so enamoured by the sight, why not build himself a hut by the railroad and enjoy all the shitting scenes closely)) a.k.a. Mr Lump of Shit alias Behram 1 who( I now learn) is a Parsee, belongs to that clan of Iranians who thought it more dignified in seeking refuge in India than submitting to thoee marauding Muslim hordes who were laying waste to that beautiful land of Iran so that they could keep their faith from extinction.
Looking at his pedigree, why Janab Tatti`s posts are so venomously anti India is hard to understand.
He was born in Pakistan but speaks Gujarati at home like all Parsees, goes to the Agiary(Fire Temple) and when he dies his remains will be fed to vultures on a tower of silence. Most of his relatives are probably in India and thriving in a society that respects all religions, while he or may be his parents decided to stay on in Pakistan, out of compulsion obviously, because there is not a single Parsee who would have voluntarily opted for Pakistan after partition and moved to that part of the country.
All in all it appears that he has to outdo the Pakistanis in hating India and all things Indian because that is the only way he can show that he is a true Pakistani.

Mr Lump of should remember that India is the country which gave refuge to his forefathers, who were running from Muslim tyranny in Iran and allowed them to set foot on India and treat it as their own motherland. It is sad that while most Parsees have excelled in all fields and done their adopted motherland proud, we have here an ungrateful descendent of this great race who has nothing but hate for the land of his forefathers` adoption. He can only be described as a blot on the legacy of his clan and the only word to describe such people is `ehsaan faramosh` or `namak haraam`.

Godspeed to him.

No matter what Naqshbandi says about adapting to the country one lives in, here is proof again that you can take a Pakistani out of Pakistan but you can`t take Islamofascism out of him.

Women need the hijab/burqa to avoid being raped!

News item: http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20646

[In Australia, Norway, Sweden and other Western nations, there is a distinct race-based crime in motion being ignored by the diversity police: Islamic men are raping Western women for ethnic reasons. We know this because the rapists have openly declared their sectarian motivations.

When a number of teenage Australian girls were subjected to hours of sexual degradation during a spate of gang rapes in Sydney that occurred between 1998 and 2002, the perpetrators of these assaults framed their rationale in ethnic terms. The young victims were informed that they were “sluts” and “Aussie pigs” while they were being hunted down and abused.

In Australia`s New South Wales Supreme Court in December 2005, a visiting Pakistani rapist testified that his victims had no right to say no, because they were not wearing a headscarf.]

sorry, no satan to blame for bad influence in hinduism..its YOUR karma that you must deal with.. no cop-outs.

iron_mask

Freewill as a viable concept will be more troublesome in any society that makes God`s Will or God`s Grace an active prime mover in human affairs. In fact, in any society that sees God sitting somewhere separately from the human being.

That doesn`t mean that faithful people won`t try to ``interpret`` it in different ways. It means that there will be ongoing and serious philosophical tussle regarding God`s role in human affairs, and very often arguments based God`s Will will trump arguments based on human will.

#250 If I am not mistaken, Kaalchakra you seem to be saying that ``freewill`` as a concept doesnot exist in religions where prophethood is paramount. That all out actions are either dictated by the All Mighty, and ofcourse some actions have been given to us already by way of the prophet.

If that is the case then hasn`t the present condition in most countries/nations preordained? Why should these guys cry for freedom?

Re: # 251

missed out a few lines:

So where is the ``knotty problem of freewill``?

The problem is straightforward - you do it or you dont?

You have a set of choices in front of you and you one one or more? Period. The outcome of these makes you a sinner or a gooder?

Re: # 250

Behram1, Kaalchakra might give a clue in #250.

So esentially what you are saying Kaalchakra is that it is this

``potential can either diminish or get enhanced depending upon a number of factors, including our own choices and actions``

which can make the asura into a sura and the other way round.

Is this not similar in concept to the ``repenting`` ``redemption`` of the sinner?

And is this not similar to the concept of ``sinning`` by the good guys?

Each one with freewil moves from one domain to the other?

iron_mask

We Hindus don`t even know what `spirit` is, unless it is something that gets people into a higher state of consciousness. :)

The core of Indian morality is not equality, but equity (and that has plusses and minuses).

The idea is that we are ALL made of the same `divine substance,` and have divine ``potential.`` However, over time this potential can either diminish or get enhanced depending upon a number of factors, including our own choices and actions.

(Notice that the problem of `free will`` is not as knotty for us since each one of us is ``God,`` and thus retains both the freedom to choose/act and the responsibility for our choices/actions.)

behram1

That`s a fascinating topic...perhaps Ballukhan`s suggestion offers a clue. It could be that there was a commonly held original view about good and evil forces (devas and asuras/ahuras). Over time, one branch/cousin developed a black and white view, and became the progenitor of all latter day semitic ideas, by concentrating evil in one personified entity - a satan. The other branch/cousin refined its ideas in shades of grey, wherein the domains of both good and evil were quite fragmented and intermixed closely.

Re: # 238

The ``Asura`` (Ahura?) and Sura stories ..the fight getween the bad guys and good guys..............the lightness and darkness...........these stories are common place in all pagan religions............