Muslims ‘Unveiled’

Re: # 213: that would be true if we lived on Plupiter adn globalization is not a reality. Resources be it human or others are fungible and move where there is demand for the same. Technically talented people will not ait 50 yrs for their home country to develop to enjoy the same living standrds as those in the west adn japan. I will throw in another complexity. cross border acquisitions led by emerging market companies are going to drive the growth in both sides of the globe.

#213 by aslam644 on October 18, 2006 7:44am PT


That whole brain drain theory is BS. If the third world country doesn`t have the right conditions in which it`s most talented thrive, the talented should be allowed to go wherever their talents will be used best(i.e. to the west). Once the said third world country creates the right conditions, the expats will return..and their experience in the west amounts to a net brain gain.

It`s already happening in India. There`s a bunch of people who`re going back because they want to start their own thing. These people would probably have been stuck in midddle management if it weren`t for the skills they gained in the west.

Re: # 211
tahmed
the days when the west accepted unskilled workers are over, now days it`s highly skilled graduates they accept, which the developing world can`t afford to lose. when a country enters middle income status it needs talented people to grow further. it is better if talented people stay in their home countries and help in it`s progress.

Re: # 210
does it include Echoboom....the Puritanical ego of Chowk. This is the man who calls upon the wrath of the gods on our women and daughters for being westernised. Yet this man, dreams of all of this.

Evidence
#9 by echoboom on October 18, 2006 4:08am PT
PM:
echo miaN: Didn`t figure you to be a strict determinist
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Whose idea was that?
Esoteric sujects like these are best discussed face to face with intelligent men, with a few bevy of beauties serving drinks with ardor & adoration..and here on earth!


maybe he can use his little women and daughters to serve the drinks all round - all skimpyly dressed ofcourse!

Looks like the french have found a solution to their immigration problem: the government has changed policies to make it easier to raise children in france. France used to be noted as being the country most open to third world immigrants, with 10 percent of so if its population being muslim immigrants. Now, thanks to the continuing turmoil created by ``muslim`` immigrants, secure in their citizenships, showing their usual paindoo mentality of starting a fisaad (which they flatteringly refer to as jihad) whereever they live - the french are changing their tune.

Regardless of how europeans react to the suicide bombers an ``self-segregation`` and and so forth - one thing is for sure. Millions of Pakistanis and muslims worldwode who would have made a life for themselves in the west are already finding the doors closing on them. The many are paying for the mischief of the few who managed to get their visas to the west.

As Europe Grows Grayer, France Devises a Baby Boom

Excerpts:

While falling birthrates threaten to undermine economies and social stability across much of an aging Europe, French fertility rates are increasing. France now has the second-highest fertility rate in Europe -- 1.94 children born per woman, exceeded slightly by Ireland`s rate of 1.99. The U.S. fertility rate is 2.01 children. ..In recent months, officials from Japan, Thailand and neighboring Germany have traveled to France to study its reproductive secrets.

Listen a-holes, the next person who makes fun of the burkha will draw the wrath of 1.2345 Billion muslims. All of them..yup..it`s not a threat but don`t mess with the Burkha or else.

``The greatest of all Jihads is saying the word of truth in front of an oppressor

- Holy Prophet (pbuh)



AND THIS IS THE MADRASSA POWER THEY ARE SCARED OF

Every oppressors nightmare....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTnSozGdtU&search=pakistan

hamidm,

can`t i first convince you to convert? ;-) after all, you`ve admitted in the past to going
to darbars such as data sahib in lahore and mrs hamidm already sounds like a sunni
muslim so what are you waiting for? :-)

#205 para2 ``you cannot and should abuse them. When this happens, the society will question these people, and put strictures on them. `` should be

you cannot and should not abuse them. When this happens, the society will question these people, and put strictures on them.

#185 by Charlie on October 17, 2006 10:53pm PT


Goras do it using cool words like UN, democracy and Human rights.


human rights is a western concept that should be shunned...

So Pakis are going to shut up about human rights in occupied Kashmir..

Cool..

Re: # 204
echoboom, they are ghettos yes, constructed through their insecure feelings. Such ghettos (as in pakistan) will come down - since Pakistan is not a free country where freedoms depend on the money and power you have - you will find such ghettos cropping up all over. Walled communities!

In a country like the U.K, freedoms are not dependent on the money or the power you weild. Every human being is cherished and nourished so that they can lead frutiful lives. Lives, which are fruitful, as decided by the individuals. Just because you have these freedoms you cannot and should abuse them. When this happens, the society will question these people, and put strictures on them.

Now if you stopped to think for a moment, you will see much to be admired in the jewish way. You very derisively suggest sucked the blood out, but think for a moment there, get rid of your anti-semitism and hatred of the jewish way of life and see what they did and were able to achieve. They integrated into the country, they became extremely productive members of the society - economically, intellectually, culturally, and as a result were admired, and as a result there was no fear of having these guys as your neighbours - since people also recognised their family friendliness. Yes, the very family friendliness you claim as your own. But have you ever thought what it is you are giving back to the society you are living in (see #193) - where I asked is there reciprocation?

the essence of what you write is a muddled up mish-mash of situation in pakistan and situation in U.K and West.

You as hamidm2 suggests are figuritively wearing a suicide belt around your body, are are eternally looking for a reason and justification for your stance and scared ****less of really pressing the button

Morse Code:
You still do not get it in your head.

How many Pakis in Pakistan not built walls? called colonies & cantonements. They are NOT ghettos to you? Just because they are the anglicised scum they look very normal to you?

A black neighbiorhood is a Ghetto and a jewish neighborhood ``jewish area``? and funny enough the word itself is yiddish/hebrew. It was these Jewish Ghettos which became very desirable once the Jewish people sucked the marrow out of the colonisers..and NOT by assimilating..hence still recognised by the jewish spunk ( not Kind David Hotel terrorism)
Jewish money (with a hint of admiration) and not arab Oil( buying up Crown Jewels--with derision. Athough the British Bastards are beneficieries of these investments: like the whole country is on Arab welfare/dole money).

Let me repeat the desire to serve & be loyal comes from the Jagirdaar & Sardaars chhitars which considers it a no no. `` Just dream to become jagrdaar & Sardaar yourself oneday........so that you too can look down upon others``.

Those who mistreat their own are the ones who consider it the bosse`s right to kick them as well. THis in a nitshell of the Ba Ba Blacksheep mentality of Pakis.

Do you not see how servile, timid, and kow-towing are when the Uniformed Langoor is at the white house, in contrast to when he is barking at those who are PROUD ``in-you-face-muslim`` in the ISLAMIC republic. Don`t you see that the english speaking totaa-mainaas still thin of themsekves as the ``norm`` or regular & those who eat dress walk talk non-farngi like as some weird or freak.

Fornicating fashion models good good, Fundamentalist face-covering bad bad in the ISLAMIC republic!


But their is always a Nasrullah, an Ahmedi Nedjad, a Chavez and a Kim....Do you see it is NOT an Islami or Muslim issue. It is a slave /non-slave issue..it is ghairat/baighairat issue
it is........

Ballu,

Great post on Zeb un Nissa. Have you ever wondered what the subcontinent would look like if Dara Shikoh was the Mughal Emperor at that time instead of that lowlife Aurangzeb?

i haven`t been to dewsbury....nor do i think i want to!

Re: # 197 Yes, echoboom, people in this country can be what they want want. they have the fredom to d it. This freedom allows and lets people to be christian, animist, pagan, motherload worshipping, money worshipping, hindus, buddhist etc. There is no dictat ......

Most muslims have become ghettoised becase of their choice. If you walk around glasgow, bradford, birmingham , london etc you will see that they by their own choice become that. they have built walls around them. Howelese do you explain the fact that even after living here in this country for yonks these guys cannot speak in English (forget writing), and this even after special english language classes for them. You are living in a little knee-jerk coccoon of your own making fortifide by your little insecurities.

But then I forget, your kind want this sort of a situation to flourish so that you can claim to be leaders! Leaders who want blood shed and massaging of your own egos. As Asif, said you and your forefathers came here because THIS SYSTEM PRODUCED SOMETIHNG WHICH YOUR SYSTEM COULDNOT AND CANNOT EVEN DREAM OF AFTER 60 YEARS of INDEPENDENCE. Time to stop being the frog in the well, and see the world.

naqshbandi,

.......... i am delighted by your enlightened views on the subject of the sordid veil ........... now if you can convince echoboom to take off his suicide belt and convert to your brand of islam, i might consider buying some fire crackers this shab-i-barat ................