Muslims ‘Unveiled’

``He refuses to convert and her family insists on a muslim nikah, so they went around London trying to find a liberal mullah who will conduct the ceremony with no success so far.``

Bongs, u can do it. Recite the Shada, voila, instant Muslim....conduct Nikahh...charge them fees...go back to following Hinduism.

Naqshbandi:
A good article but in my humble opinion you are skirting a larger issue. Brothers in Islam want to transplant Mohammad`s lifestyle (Islamic Culture) wherever they live. There can be no negotiations (the kind of give and take you are advocating) because negotiation by definition can only happen between two legitimate entities. For Islamists, the Western civilization has no legitimacy, it is Evil and corrupt and heading for eternal damnation. The fires of hell rage to devour the defiers of Allah. Look at Iqbal`s words plastered here. Look at the striking image posted in #76.

#92 by chaltahai on October 16, 2006 1:38pm PT

suicide bombers have been known to hide under burkhas...so don`t give paki men ideas..OTOH, jihad is in their DNA so they`ve probably thought of it already...

Stuka #97 {``Bongs, u can do it. Recite the Shada, voila, instant Muslim....conduct Nikahh...charge them fees...go back to following Hinduism. ``}

Stuka,
There is a minor ceremony that you neglected to mention. You, of all people, should know ...

why are muslim men occupied with women`s affairs instead of building bridges, designing flying machines, climbing mountains or other more manly things

........ as mrs hamidm would say :`` why are muslim men so preoccupied with what their women look like - why don`t they do something about their own disgusting hooliya (appearance) ``

...... or as my thirteen year old would put it more succintly, `` why don`t the pot-bellied uncles with hair in their ears mind their own freeeeking business !`` ...........

......... i think it is because most muslim men are closet cross-dressers

further to echoboom`s asinine commentary in #96:

Please, dont forget that Sharm o haya are strictly feminine in Urdu. A flip side to Sharm o Haya is like these concepts work for a male to put ``his`` women on tight leash. Sharmeela Larrka or Sharmeela Mard wont be found in the carrier of grand eastern values i.e., Urdu diction.

Naqsh, you point regarding rural women in Pakistan not wearing burqa is appropriate. Do you think since most rural women in Pakistan/India/bangladesh, working class , school going women in Pakistan and many other muslims countries don`t wear burqas, Ms Azmi`s clothing choices are a bit strange?(regardless of whether she has the right to do so in britain or not).

Other day a friend told me about choices his father made when he coverted to sikhism. He was in the British Indian army and wanted to keep the beard and wear turban because he decided to become Sikh but some British military law required that you can keep beard and wear turban if you did so when you are recruited into the army but you cann`t change that choice once in the army. As a result he took pre-retirement from the army so that he could keep his beard and wear turban and practice Sikhism as he wanted.

Now about Azmi girl, the teacher. some questions arise.

a) is there a law or tradition or accepted common understanding that teacher has to talk to, and engage in conversations with her pupils(as British would say instead of students) ?
b) and make her presence comfortable in the classroom for the students?
c) did she wear the burqa while applying or interviewing for the job?
d) did she wear burqa while going to school herself to get the teacher`s credentials etc?

``#43 by Naqshbandi on October 16, 2006 6:16am PT
Zeemax, why bring in that metaphor about `bund maraona` ?-- and in Ramadan also! ``

HAHA, because I am more a Muslim than Zeemax is. Zeemax is a Pakistani, someone who was maybe born a Muslim, but dilutes it more by his acts than any non-Muslim would do.

#101 Hamidumdum2 {``........ as mrs hamidm would say :`` why are muslim men so preoccupied with what their women look like - why don`t they do something about their own disgusting hooliya (appearance) ``
...... or as my thirteen year old would put it more succintly, `` why don`t the pot-bellied uncles with hair in their ears mind their own freeeeking business !`` ...........``}

Hamidum Sahib,
I tip my hat to your family. Obviously, you don`t feel compelled to hide your female assets unlike our paranoid Mullahs. Good for you, sir.

re: Salim_Chauhan #81

``Pray tell how wearing the hijab protects these Muslim women from that horrible rape rate``

Salim ji, there is a reason why they don`t put burqa-clad women on cover pages of fashion mags. Regular people usually covet only what they see, and drunken rapists usually assault whom they covet.

``for those specializing in raping Muslim women, this advertisement may be a real boon``

Salim ji, this is a hate crime, not the typical rape. Perpetrators of these crimes are highly organized and smart enough to identify Muslims regardless of burqas or beards. In Gujrat (2002) and Bombay (1993) for example, Hindu fanatics didn`t just attack the burqa-wearing types. They attacked everybody in Muslim localities.

The hijab is not designed to protect against hate crimes. For that you need a Lashkar-e-Qahar that can blow up a hundred non-Muslims every time Muslims are attacked by a non-Muslim mob.

right...the veil protects against rape...that sort of logic worked out very well for mukhtaran mai..i mean, she did get a canadian visa and a million $$, didn`t she?

did bengali women wear veils in 71 and did it make a difference when thousands of them were raped by the paki army(with noone being prosecuted for it, I might add for prophet tahmed`s sake)...

If you do not go to madressa; the madressa will come into your home: VIA YOUTUBE!
a great program! Watch it.

Bring on the Nails. The coffins for the Death of The Western Imperialism are being readied.

When the United Satans LEAVE ALL muslim AND non-muslim lands around the world EACH & EVERY issue would have already settled.

The goraa-folk are just like other folk like blacks brown yellow or red and MUST be taught to never ever to act uppity when talking to other people especially Muslims.

Let the dark ages again descend upon those who have always lived, as even today, under Islamic Illumination.

His Excellency #106 {``The hijab is not designed to protect against hate crimes. ``}

Your Excellency,
My dear friend, wouldn`t it make much more sense to educate our women, instruct them well in the art of self-defence, and even enable them to have weapons to protect themselves against all such harm? Instead of requiring them to cower under a shroud, I say let`s liberate our women and empower them to be more self-reliant, more confident, and less of a target of those with evil on their minds - most of them want to insult Muslim men anyway. And they usually do that by raping and murdering Muslim women - it`s more fun for them and less risky for their own well-being and safety.

Granted, the debate about veil is a useless debate and you can always count on Salim Chauhan to use the full force of his verbal power on all useless topics.

But I think the real issue is this: Why does the debate start and end on how women dress? Why should we not take it beyond women`s clothing and question the very concept of clothing? I understand that Salim puts on his pants because he needs to hide the bite marks on his butt from previous night`s sexathon with Shoresahib, but still, we are being hypocrite...and petty, when we question some articles of clothing and not the others.

All these anti-nudist laws that exist in much of the world regarding ``public indecency`` are frankly curbing on people`s liberties to dress however they like. But does anyone speak up for them? NOOOOOO!

re#110:
Laws on public indecency are debated and enacted by legislatures comprised of electoral representatives that`s why.

#110, Atif2 aka MMA,
Is there no end to the depth of your addiction to homosexual topics? Did you ever realize that regardless of the topic, all you can do is bring homosexuality into the discussion. While I do not criticize your perverted lifestyle, I do find it annoying and boring that you infiltrate every topic with this single-minded one-trick pony of yours. Your persistence and shamelessness give a bad name to your kind - not all of whom are as desperate as you.