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Dilemmas of Creative Children

Khalid Sohail October 18, 2006

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#1 Posted by Kulharee on October 18, 2006 11:41:14 am
Dr Sohail Sahib, it appears that your definition of creative is limited only to artists and scientists. What about politicians, social scientists, musicians, and so on? A book that recently came out “Sexus Ploiticus” by two French argues that great politicians tend to be great seducers. So yes, there are all kinds of definitions of creativity and there might be a few exceptions that couldn’t tolerate the confinements of traditional learning, but that in itself does not prove that the traditional learning environments has resulted in suppressing creativity. Does it? I would argue that the definition of ‘creative’ should be expanded to business, commerce, governance, and all other areas as well.
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#2 Posted by drsohail on October 18, 2006 1:19:26 pm
Re: # 1
Dear Kulharee....I fully agree with you that `creativity` can be expressed in many ways and

in many forms....from sports...to fine arts...to business....to politics. The point I am trying

to make is that creativity is non-traditional in thinking and lifestyle and becomes a

challenge for traditional families and communities and when traditional families and

communities are challenged they can feel threatened and try to oppress and suppress the

creative process which in unfortunate. Once we are aware of that dilemma we can find

some creative solutions to conflicts and make a win ...win situation for the creative person

as well as the community. sincerely sohail
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#3 Posted by Urstruly on October 18, 2006 1:21:08 pm

I was quite naalaique when I was kid, and sadistically mischievious; I think I have potential to be great one day.
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#4 Posted by nasah on October 18, 2006 1:43:20 pm
Tabeeut apni tanhaa ruh ravi kee
choRa laee mujhay hur carvan say

Sohail sahib -- as usual -- great enlightening piece. thank you.

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#5 Posted by drsohail on October 18, 2006 1:51:53 pm
Re: # 3
Dear Urstruly....I have no doubt in my mind that you are a creative person. You are being

modest. I am sure you express your energies in many non-traditional ways. What was your

dream as a teenager?

all the best...sohail
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#6 Posted by drsohail on October 18, 2006 1:54:56 pm
Re: # 4

Dear Nasah....thanks for your kind and generous words as usual. How do you express your

creative energies? sincerely sohail
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#7 Posted by chaltahai on October 18, 2006 2:41:51 pm
I believe the children are our are future.Teach them well and let them lead the way. Show them all the beauty they possess inside. Give them a sense of pride to make it easier. Yup that ought to do it.
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#8 Posted by freethinker on October 18, 2006 2:45:06 pm
Dr. Sohail:

Thanks for another thought provoking article.

Highly creative children, like Einstein, will always have dilemmas. They are usually one of a kind in their class and hence lonely. Therefore, they communicate with themselves. It is usually the creative, but not extremely, children who need guidance and direction.

Karl Gauss was so far ahead of not only his class fellows but also his teacher that there were always unpleasant encounters. He would invariably correct whenever his teacher lost track of a mathematical problem. In school, he had developed the solution of a 4th order polynomial equation (Omar Khayyam had given the soultion of a cubic equation).

He used to say about his teacher:

He is a mathematician among poets and a poet among mathematician.

In school, Iqbal had composed the following verse:

Mein jiss kay saath hoo`n ussay hoti nahin shikast
Iqbal meray naam ki taseer dekhna

Mohammad Gill
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#9 Posted by bjkumar on October 18, 2006 9:21:53 pm

Hey doc,

What is the POINT of this article?

That the kid who is making a ruckus in the classroom is actually a budding genius! Just wait it out?! Let him bloom?

Put up with all his crap? Don`t whip his ass? Take lip from him?

Are we supposed to dance? And sing...

``Hail to the genius!!!``

Your articles are usually long on quotations and short on originality. This one is no exception. You extract long paragraphs from a few books here and there on a few geniuses, then you slap together a pargraph of intro in the beginning and some lame cockamammy of naseehat at the end and presto, chowk gets another article - ready to be shoved down the collective throat of simple folks like me - crying tears of protest notwithstanding!!!

And do you write your books the same way?

I better check on my Aspirin supply again - and make sure I have a large size bottle handy before I read one of these scary things again!



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#10 Posted by krbhatti on October 18, 2006 11:22:01 pm
Dr. Sahib,

A nice article. But I don`t know why it reminds me of PTV-2 programs. When world channels were showing documentaries about futuristic technologies, our beloved PTV-2 was showing us programs, which taught you how to take care of tractor, irons and radios. I think I might need a session with psychologist myself.

Cheers,

Khalid
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#11 Posted by IamNadia on October 18, 2006 11:49:23 pm
``...During my studies I came across a number of creative personalities who found themselves in conflict with their traditional educational institutions and were misunderstood by their traditional parents and teachers. I will quote three examples here to highlight my point: one of a well-respected mystic poet Walt Whitman and the other two of world famous scientists, Charles Darwin and Albert Einstein...``

Dr. Saab you always seem a superlative mindless genious to me when portraying psychological elements and ailments. Had that been more useful and enlightening if you had used local examples to tell us how the kids of our surrounding can be treated well, plus how the icons of this third world have evolved with exception handlings. Contrast n comparison analysi of great people and thugs emerging from same province of the planet, and how creativity is depressed in our part of life that people like you claim to leave their motherlands, towns to escape to have quick Darwinity.

Anyways your article lets me think of the parallel, freeminded school of thought running in traditional school rooms which is rarely seen traditionaly in Pakistan.

Try some more mind and come out of books and refrences!
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#12 Posted by bjkumar on October 19, 2006 3:00:16 am

#10
[I think I might need a session with psychologist myself.]

Yaar, no cutting into the line.

Take your place behind Manto, Hamidm2 and 99 percent of the Pakistanis!

Wait, that is the line for liars anonymous!



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#13 Posted by krbhatti on October 19, 2006 3:30:23 am
Re: # 12

Thanks BJ. I will not cut into the line, and will stay behind 99% of Pakistanis and others that you have mentioned. I hope we all will be cured, as we realize that we have problem and are going to do something about it by standing in line. I pray for those, who do not realize that they have problems and are still bowing to some bull5hit, they were bowing to 5000 years ago.
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#14 Posted by smartsyco on October 19, 2006 4:38:44 am
Another good edited article ....... yeah you are absoulotly right i think there many of peoples who learnt by the universties of their lives .... they did everything by learning through other lives ..... and experienced by their own lives ..... few of them you mentioned ..... and few of them were mentioned in book ``100 GREAT MEN`` i forgot the author name .... he has done awesome work that was simply the best book ..... though he was christian or either a christian .... but his work was worth appreciatable ....... i am not favouring just because i am a christian or muslim either ...... but the work he did was great ..... he did justice with his work .... by putting the name of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD PBUH on first ...... of muslims leaders ........ that was great ......
he did not think as extremiest person ...... he took it as normal ..... and gave those name who have done something special in their lives in the field of science and humantarity .....

if some one has read that book ........ he will agree me ...............and will agree to your written article
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#15 Posted by bjkumar on October 19, 2006 4:55:23 am

#13 Bhatti

Yaar Bhatti, I do not understand you, perhaps you could elaborate!

Meanwhile, do not let those in front of you in the line escape!

The Dr. Sohails will lose a lot in consultation fees!

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#16 Posted by VRV on October 19, 2006 5:42:01 am
BJ,

U can blurt on political stuff but this is a quasi-scientific article. Pl keep this Indo-Pak issues aside.

Unlike in other cases where u comment without reading them, u need to read this in full b4 u comment. This is what I can say as ur brother.
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