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Building Barriers in Britain

Farouq Taj October 27, 2006

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#21 Posted by KaalChakra on October 29, 2006 4:37:25 pm
The last was the question Indonesians were asking themselves. So that should be taken as a quotation of sorts.
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#20 Posted by KaalChakra on October 29, 2006 4:35:20 pm
They had introduced Playboy in Indonesia recently. Reportedly it had no nudity.

Isn`t publishing Playboy without nudes sin enough to land everybody associated with it in deepest, darkest hellfire?!
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#19 Posted by aslam644 on October 29, 2006 3:40:34 pm
Re: # 18
i am surprised a well informed peron like your selve didn`t know, it`s already out in uk.

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#18 Posted by hamidm2 on October 29, 2006 1:56:37 pm


.......... i was wondering if there is a market for an islamic playboy - you know, women in hijab and niqab showing a little bit of leg here, a little bit of thigh there and a perky breast peaking out from beneath the abaya ......... i find the idea intriguing
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#17 Posted by muqaddam on October 29, 2006 10:07:34 am
One doubts if this Aishah female acted on her own accord while going to teach children in a veil. Any sane teacher obviously would know that teaching with a veil on was the most absurd thing to do.
It is most probably the local Mullah and his cohorts found in her a willing tool and incited her to do this.
These acts are really painting Islam as a retrograde religion. Where are the moderate voices that will drown out the mad rantings of the self seeking Mullahs who are so blinded by their own interpretation of Islam that one day they will take it to destruction?
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#16 Posted by zeemax on October 29, 2006 1:14:41 am
contd....#15.........

Re the shipping fleet, it was the greatest error of Muslims that they never formed a merchant shipping or a naval fleet. I wonder why that was so. Even Tariq Bin Ziad`s invasion of Spain was on borrowed vessels sent by the rebel Spanish. It is even more surprising in that they were the ones who invented the sextant for navigation but never used it.

If Muslims had a naval force, there would have been none ... zero... colonizations in either India, or North Africa.
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#15 Posted by zeemax on October 29, 2006 1:07:03 am
#14 by iqbal492

Iqbal, these are not the Muslims who want to settle in any European country and should follow the regulations and give up wearing Burqas like Aishah Azmi if they want to reside in that country. It is their country. They were born there.

Remember the first generation of immigrants never did that, but the 2nd generation does. Reason is that the first generation were economic immigrants, the 2nd generation are Brits, not immigrants. If Brits can have hair pins in their noses and cheeks with spiked hairdos and strut along Kings Road, and have decent jobs at the same time, so can the Burqas and Niqabs.

I saw the Aisha Azmi interview. She states no child had complained and she had been carrying out her duties perfectly with Niqab. So who did the Niqab scare? It wasn`t the children, it was the Islamophobic British establishment.

Besides, Britain is the last place on earth to talk about multi-culturalism when they had built their small island of a country into a global empire where the sun never set solely from colonies acquired with a shipping fleet with policies of strict cultural segregation from locals. Locals were `dogs` for them and still are. The first generation accepted that because it had no choice, the second one doesn`t. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they`re running helter-skelter to achieve non-confrontational multi-culturalism. They must never forget that they owe their very existence of today i.e. not being swallowed up by first France and later Germany, to the economic strength they had gained from the very places Aisha Azmi`s folks come from.

Britain owes a huge debt to everyone of origins of the Jewel of The Crown.
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#14 Posted by iqbal492 on October 29, 2006 1:16:11 am
Dear Farouq Taj, Zeemax, Nasah

Look man, England is England and not Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, so those Muslims who want to settle in any European country should follow the regulations and prevailing in that country that is the law of the land. The same applies for U.S.A and Canada.
My advice is to those Muslim women who wear Burqas(Viel) like Aishah Azmi is that they should stop wearing Burqas if they want to reside in that country. It is as simple as that. In Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan even Non Mulsim women are compulsory forced to wear Burqas. There is no discount or concession. No body protests, why are Muslims are silent. Even the laws in Islamic countries are biased towards Non Muslims (viz, Hindus, Sikhs and Christians). For eg A MBBS Christian student from Lahore has filled petition in the Lahore High court, the petitioner alleges that Muslim who learn the Hafeez-E-Quran by heart are a given 20% more marks. The same cardinal principal doesn’t apply for Hindus, Christians and Sikhs for learning their religious books.

Iqbal Singh

I would like to challenge any Pakistani to correct me if I am wrong.
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#13 Posted by mehulkamdar on October 28, 2006 10:02:23 pm
I would like to see the fanatics who condemn the British for firing this madwoman from duties that she was most ill suited to because of her chosen dress code try to tell Turkey, a Muslim country, to lift it`s restrictions on the veil and the fez. A country that was an Islamic superpower for centuries decided to do away with this stupidity but no, rather than take the Turks` civilised approach to religion, some people from the rest of the Muslim world chose to look at the barbaric Arabs of Saudi Arabia as an example. It is particularly sad that a woman from South Asia, a region of refinement and culture in contrast to the uncivilised Bedou culture of the Middle East chooses barbarism instead of refinement and culture. And, she has supporters to egg her on in her self imposed imbecilicity.

A superb article and a fine voice of reason - congratulations, Farouk Taj. Thank you for a very well written piece.
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#12 Posted by parthaab on October 28, 2006 3:15:23 pm
Just ban religion!
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#11 Posted by VRV on October 28, 2006 6:38:35 am
Aishah Azmi`s pix on the net are limited to showing her as a niqab gaal. However the local press in London had produced some pix of Ms. Azmi who wore jeans. Her pelvis was seductive to men and her chest is attractive with visible protrusion.

I dont know if she was wearing niqab since Mr. Straw said abt it or b4 that. In any case she dressed in a way that cant be called as modest coz of her display of pelvic shape thru jeans and display of protruding mammalian glands. Therfore she`s not dressed modestly.

So much was said abt niqab. I dont like to add anymore here.
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#10 Posted by zeemax on October 28, 2006 5:02:11 am
#9 by jay

Jay ... much of modern science can be bought off the shelf. It`s not a big deal. Exactly which science are you talking about BTW?
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#9 Posted by jay on October 28, 2006 4:49:21 am
Here we go. People want to know why the pakistanis of england has turned out to be what they are. Well, they are jobless, they cannot mingle with others because of religion.

So they become bombers, so they where the hijab to let every one knwo that they are muslims.

This is pathetic, the muslim cilture and identity is in their dress. It is showing others that they are different.

Hallo, how about some lasting human values, how about some education. Has islam produced any scientist. Well how can it, when oits only nobel laurette has been condemned in the land of the pure.

Has nay muslim country produced anything worthy for other humans.

Looking fior the reasons of muslim alineation, pathetic, read the book. It is all there. Ostriches who should live in the saudi deserts should not allowed into the cities of the world.
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#8 Posted by zeemax on October 28, 2006 3:20:24 am
#5/7 by harimau

Wah ... wah ... Harimau saheb. It`s a bit much for even a self-proclaimed ``Equal Opportunity Abuser`` as your goodself!

You ask, ``Where are the Paki-bashing youth of Britain?``, the answer is they were having a great time till the Skinhead busting Pak-gangs emerged in response and after a few skinhead skulls were cracked in Bradford and Birmingham, your heroes are now all hiding underneath their mama`s skirts without a peep.

You say: ``...rquirements for a mahram to accompany her. I believe that requirement is stated explicitly in the Koran....``

And since when have you Sir become an expert on Qura`an? Kindly quote where it is said so. Ever heard of women fighters in combat in Muslim armies? Or even the nurses? Were they all with `Mehrams`? You guys are just strawmen ...
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#7 Posted by harimau on October 28, 2006 12:46:00 am
Ref nasah #6

[what`s wrong with you harimau]

Aishah Aziz wants to selectively apply the Koran... in fact, most of you even say that people who claim that the Koran requires the burqa are wrong and that the Koran requires only modest attire for women.

But if Aishah insists on shocking the sensibilities of Western society by wearing the burqa in inappropriate places, I am asking why she doesn`t follow the rquirements for a mahram to accompany her. I believe that requirement is stated explicitly in the Koran.

As to suggestions of rape, hey, I am just pointing out further consequences of the strict application of Sharia law for Muslim women.

Tough noogins.
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#6 Posted by nasah on October 27, 2006 7:37:49 pm
what`s wrong with you harimau -- your post is the crudest and the profanest I have ever read on the chowk -- there are times you are so lucid, reasonable and even show a glimse of good breeding and high Indian intellect -- and then there is a total melt down of your civility and your sense of propriety -- your post #5 is absolutely disgusting -- shame on you.
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