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#340 Posted by discoverer on November 24, 2006 12:09:48 pm
This is what people think of GANDHI............
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/040813.html Prepare yourself to see the pic on the site.
Did Mahatma Gandhi sleep with virgins?
13-Aug-2004
Dear Cecil:
In his book The Sexual Teachings of the White Tigress: Secrets of the Female Taoist Masters, Hsi Lai writes that Mahatma Gandhi ``periodically slept between two twelve-year-old female virgins. He didn`t do this for the purpose of actual sexual contact, but as an ancient practice of rejuvenating his male energy. . . . Taoists called this method `using the ultimate yin to replenish the yang.``` Now, far be it from me to disparage anyone`s best-intentioned efforts to have his yang replenished. Still, I confess that this Gandhi-virgin-sandwich yarn pushes the needle of my BS detector way into the red. Did Gandhi indeed kip with preteen jail-quail? If so, what was his source of supply? --David English, Somerville, Massachusetts
Cecil replies:
Well, they weren`t 12. They also weren`t all virgins; so far as is known they worked solo rather than in pairs; and Gandhi claimed he wasn`t trying to rejuvenate his manly energy but rather prove he had it under control. In all other respects, however, the tome you cite (whatsamatter, David, the bookstore was out of The South Beach Diet?) is 100 percent accurate: the leader of the movement to free India of the British yoke did sleep with young females--and what`s more, both parties were often naked at the time. He was 77 when this odd practice came to light, and from what we know sleeping was all they did. However, when a renowned holy man of any age pulls a stunt like this, he takes the chance that it`ll turn up in a book with a title like The Sexual Teachings of the White Tigress.
Mohandas Gandhi`s sleeping arrangements attracted public attention during the winter of 1946-47, when he was trying to quell violence between Muslims and Hindus in the Noakhali district in what is now Bangladesh. It came out that Gandhi was bunking nightly with his 19-year-old grandniece, Manu. In part this was an effort to stay warm in the winter chill, but Gandhi soon acknowledged there was more to it: he was testing his vow of brahmacharya, or total chastity in thought and deed. If he could spend the night in a woman`s embrace without feeling sexual stirrings, it would demonstrate that he had conquered his carnal impulses and become ``God`s eunuch.`` It turned out that Manu was not his first brahmacharya lab partner--he`d also recently gotten naked (partly, at least) with another young woman in his extended family, starting when she was 18.
Unschooled as you are in the mysteries of the East, David, you scoff--and to be frank, there were quite a few raised eyebrows in India. One of the most vocal critics was Nirmal Kumar Bose, a university lecturer who served as Gandhi`s interpreter in Noakhali. While conceding that no hanky-panky had taken place (Gandhi and his entourage typically all slept in the same room) Bose protested that the master was exploiting the women, each of whom felt she had a special place in his affections and became ``hysterical`` if slighted. (Here I follow the account by author Ved Mehta in his 1976 New Yorker series on Gandhi and his followers.) Gandhi, far from being abashed, vigorously defended himself in meetings, letters, and articles, arguing that making a woman ``the instrument of my lust`` would be far more exploitative than what he actually did.
Remarkably, the critics eventually quieted down. Even Bose, who quit in protest and later discussed the issue in a book, My Days With Gandhi, remained an admirer. Gandhi continued to sleep with women until his assassination in 1948, and the matter is little remembered today. The esteem in which Gandhi was held no doubt partly accounts for the lack of repercussions, along with his advanced age. His notoriously eccentric views on sex may have been a factor too. Gandhi believed that sex for pleasure was sinful (for that matter, he felt eating chocolate was sinful), that sexual attraction between men and women was unnatural, and that husband and wife should live together as brother and sister, having sex only for purposes of procreation. (I take most of this from a memoir by journalist William Shirer, another admirer.) He swore off sex at age 36, required a similar vow of his disciples, and publicly freaked when he had a nocturnal emission in 1936 at age 67. Many hearing him rationalize his unusual blanket substitute probably figured, eh, that`s the mahatma for you. (For what it`s worth, the kinkier takes on the story--e.g., that Gandhi was regularly massaged by naked women--have no basis in fact that I can discover.) Whether or not you buy the notion that he didn`t get off on contact with his very young bedmates (or feel that that would make it any less creepy), it says something about this profoundly strange guy that you can hear his claim that naked sleepovers were tests of purity for both participants and go: You think?
--CECIL ADAMS
This is the truth about GANDHI, no wonder it`s an icon for APPLE. A company which SOMETIMES struggle selling their brand.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/040813.html Prepare yourself to see the pic on the site.
Did Mahatma Gandhi sleep with virgins?
13-Aug-2004
Dear Cecil:
In his book The Sexual Teachings of the White Tigress: Secrets of the Female Taoist Masters, Hsi Lai writes that Mahatma Gandhi ``periodically slept between two twelve-year-old female virgins. He didn`t do this for the purpose of actual sexual contact, but as an ancient practice of rejuvenating his male energy. . . . Taoists called this method `using the ultimate yin to replenish the yang.``` Now, far be it from me to disparage anyone`s best-intentioned efforts to have his yang replenished. Still, I confess that this Gandhi-virgin-sandwich yarn pushes the needle of my BS detector way into the red. Did Gandhi indeed kip with preteen jail-quail? If so, what was his source of supply? --David English, Somerville, Massachusetts
Cecil replies:
Well, they weren`t 12. They also weren`t all virgins; so far as is known they worked solo rather than in pairs; and Gandhi claimed he wasn`t trying to rejuvenate his manly energy but rather prove he had it under control. In all other respects, however, the tome you cite (whatsamatter, David, the bookstore was out of The South Beach Diet?) is 100 percent accurate: the leader of the movement to free India of the British yoke did sleep with young females--and what`s more, both parties were often naked at the time. He was 77 when this odd practice came to light, and from what we know sleeping was all they did. However, when a renowned holy man of any age pulls a stunt like this, he takes the chance that it`ll turn up in a book with a title like The Sexual Teachings of the White Tigress.
Mohandas Gandhi`s sleeping arrangements attracted public attention during the winter of 1946-47, when he was trying to quell violence between Muslims and Hindus in the Noakhali district in what is now Bangladesh. It came out that Gandhi was bunking nightly with his 19-year-old grandniece, Manu. In part this was an effort to stay warm in the winter chill, but Gandhi soon acknowledged there was more to it: he was testing his vow of brahmacharya, or total chastity in thought and deed. If he could spend the night in a woman`s embrace without feeling sexual stirrings, it would demonstrate that he had conquered his carnal impulses and become ``God`s eunuch.`` It turned out that Manu was not his first brahmacharya lab partner--he`d also recently gotten naked (partly, at least) with another young woman in his extended family, starting when she was 18.
Unschooled as you are in the mysteries of the East, David, you scoff--and to be frank, there were quite a few raised eyebrows in India. One of the most vocal critics was Nirmal Kumar Bose, a university lecturer who served as Gandhi`s interpreter in Noakhali. While conceding that no hanky-panky had taken place (Gandhi and his entourage typically all slept in the same room) Bose protested that the master was exploiting the women, each of whom felt she had a special place in his affections and became ``hysterical`` if slighted. (Here I follow the account by author Ved Mehta in his 1976 New Yorker series on Gandhi and his followers.) Gandhi, far from being abashed, vigorously defended himself in meetings, letters, and articles, arguing that making a woman ``the instrument of my lust`` would be far more exploitative than what he actually did.
Remarkably, the critics eventually quieted down. Even Bose, who quit in protest and later discussed the issue in a book, My Days With Gandhi, remained an admirer. Gandhi continued to sleep with women until his assassination in 1948, and the matter is little remembered today. The esteem in which Gandhi was held no doubt partly accounts for the lack of repercussions, along with his advanced age. His notoriously eccentric views on sex may have been a factor too. Gandhi believed that sex for pleasure was sinful (for that matter, he felt eating chocolate was sinful), that sexual attraction between men and women was unnatural, and that husband and wife should live together as brother and sister, having sex only for purposes of procreation. (I take most of this from a memoir by journalist William Shirer, another admirer.) He swore off sex at age 36, required a similar vow of his disciples, and publicly freaked when he had a nocturnal emission in 1936 at age 67. Many hearing him rationalize his unusual blanket substitute probably figured, eh, that`s the mahatma for you. (For what it`s worth, the kinkier takes on the story--e.g., that Gandhi was regularly massaged by naked women--have no basis in fact that I can discover.) Whether or not you buy the notion that he didn`t get off on contact with his very young bedmates (or feel that that would make it any less creepy), it says something about this profoundly strange guy that you can hear his claim that naked sleepovers were tests of purity for both participants and go: You think?
--CECIL ADAMS
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#339 Posted by discoverer on November 24, 2006 12:01:27 pm
let me quote you bhagvard GITA.....
I`ll tell you the immoral teaching of this book. These teaching reflect your..........
The wise do not sanctiona fourth conception, even in crisis.The woman who has intercoursewith four men has loose morals;the woman who has intercoursewith five is prostitute. (123.83)
that mean your religion allow your woman to have sexual intercourse with 2 or 3 man.
Do you want me to show you the Proofs of how many HINDOOS marries a child. You fail to show us a real Proof. But remember I can show you that Dropatto was a Prostitue. Hindoo realigion allow child-adult marriage.
Do you want me to show you the Proofs of how many HINDOOS marries a child. You fail to show us a real Proof. But remember I can show you that Dropatto was a Prostitue. Hindoo realigion allow child-adult marriage.
http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part18/chap6.htm
I`ll tell you the immoral teaching of this book. These teaching reflect your..........
The wise do not sanctiona fourth conception, even in crisis.The woman who has intercoursewith four men has loose morals;the woman who has intercoursewith five is prostitute. (123.83)
that mean your religion allow your woman to have sexual intercourse with 2 or 3 man.
Do you want me to show you the Proofs of how many HINDOOS marries a child. You fail to show us a real Proof. But remember I can show you that Dropatto was a Prostitue. Hindoo realigion allow child-adult marriage.
Do you want me to show you the Proofs of how many HINDOOS marries a child. You fail to show us a real Proof. But remember I can show you that Dropatto was a Prostitue. Hindoo realigion allow child-adult marriage.
http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part18/chap6.htm
#338 Posted by discoverer on November 24, 2006 3:57:46 am
re:krishna_abcd
I know you HINDOOS are low caste, PISS drinking moron???
This is why you CAN`T understand my post?
Have you being drinking too much piss and eating cow dung?
``I think following a pedophile, serial rapist and mass murderer is the most low class you can get. How can you guys do that? Everyone knows Muhammad was a pervert and a pedophile. How can you?``
I believe I have seen this cartoon before. It was a depiction of a PANDOO and a dropatti in action.......or HOMO RAM or seeta.......who cares/
NOT surprisingly You could proof any of your claims.........you proof were non authentic websites which was criticized by everyone. If Prophet was a fraud then gie us the PROOFs.
Do you understand english or are you drunk or do you want me to teach you HINDI.
I said show me a VALID PROOF......
``Okay shitbrain.
Pull your head out of your favorite Mullah`s a$$ and go to the madrassah-library.
Then tell me - what are the ACTUAL texts for the following:``
Did you mom had 5 husband???? coz I think there`s a genetic disorder in you??? You barely understand any post...........
There are only 4 volumes in actual Sahih Muslims............
Its time you start learning numbers.........4 comes before 3 2 and 1..
Your source are North American websites where people like you provide mis-representation of islam....
``It is to prevent someone from a high-caste, to marry someone from a low-caste like your family.``
Maybe you are new to this world....... there are thousands of paki, arab turk indonasian etc who marry each other, unlike hindoo who allow burn their woman and allow their wife to commit Prostitution with 5 man.
Your religion allow you to be a racist......... But thats partially true. Its not about marriage, it about your religious believe. You HINDOO prefere people of higher caste coz in india they get better jobs, status etc..
A high caste piss drinker won`t drink piss with a low caste. A high caste piss drinker sacrifices a lower class hindo.
If this is to be the case why don`t you tell me about your caste.
Why do you sacrifice human being????
Tell me HoMO worshipper, why don`t HINDOO allow their wife to marry 5 man???? why you homo RAM murdered his wife??
I know you HINDOOS are low caste, PISS drinking moron???
This is why you CAN`T understand my post?
Have you being drinking too much piss and eating cow dung?
``I think following a pedophile, serial rapist and mass murderer is the most low class you can get. How can you guys do that? Everyone knows Muhammad was a pervert and a pedophile. How can you?``
I believe I have seen this cartoon before. It was a depiction of a PANDOO and a dropatti in action.......or HOMO RAM or seeta.......who cares/
NOT surprisingly You could proof any of your claims.........you proof were non authentic websites which was criticized by everyone. If Prophet was a fraud then gie us the PROOFs.
Do you understand english or are you drunk or do you want me to teach you HINDI.
I said show me a VALID PROOF......
``Okay shitbrain.
Pull your head out of your favorite Mullah`s a$$ and go to the madrassah-library.
Then tell me - what are the ACTUAL texts for the following:``
Did you mom had 5 husband???? coz I think there`s a genetic disorder in you??? You barely understand any post...........
There are only 4 volumes in actual Sahih Muslims............
Its time you start learning numbers.........4 comes before 3 2 and 1..
Your source are North American websites where people like you provide mis-representation of islam....
``It is to prevent someone from a high-caste, to marry someone from a low-caste like your family.``
Maybe you are new to this world....... there are thousands of paki, arab turk indonasian etc who marry each other, unlike hindoo who allow burn their woman and allow their wife to commit Prostitution with 5 man.
Your religion allow you to be a racist......... But thats partially true. Its not about marriage, it about your religious believe. You HINDOO prefere people of higher caste coz in india they get better jobs, status etc..
A high caste piss drinker won`t drink piss with a low caste. A high caste piss drinker sacrifices a lower class hindo.
If this is to be the case why don`t you tell me about your caste.
Why do you sacrifice human being????
Tell me HoMO worshipper, why don`t HINDOO allow their wife to marry 5 man???? why you homo RAM murdered his wife??
#337 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 23, 2006 4:26:28 pm
#331 by anka-bhoot
[Tell me Krishna_abcd in simple manner.
*why do hinduism allow caste system? ]
It is to prevent someone from a high-caste, to marry someone from a low-caste like your family.
Just like, for example, an Arab or a Turk will never let his daughter marry a brown Paki macaca.
That`s caste system for you.
So now tell me in a simple manner -
Do you get it? Pedophile worshipper?
:)
[Tell me Krishna_abcd in simple manner.
*why do hinduism allow caste system? ]
It is to prevent someone from a high-caste, to marry someone from a low-caste like your family.
Just like, for example, an Arab or a Turk will never let his daughter marry a brown Paki macaca.
That`s caste system for you.
So now tell me in a simple manner -
Do you get it? Pedophile worshipper?
:)
#336 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 23, 2006 2:52:56 pm
#330 by discoverer
[Islamic text huh???? Sahih Muslims does not speak of Aisha`s marrage....
were you reading my previous post???? or were you busy drinking PISS??
Your Proof was non-authentic..... I suggest you read my previous post but this time without drinking piss. Then only you`ll understand.... ]
Okay shitbrain.
Pull your head out of your favorite Mullah`s a$$ and go to the madrassah-library.
Then tell me - what are the ACTUAL texts for the following:
Sahih Muslim
Book 8: The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah)
Book 8, Number 3309:
Book 8, Number 3310:
Book 8, Number 3311:
WHAT are the actual texts for Numbers 3309, 3310 and 3311?
Give me the actual texts and then their translations.
Let`s see who is lying.
[Islamic text huh???? Sahih Muslims does not speak of Aisha`s marrage....
were you reading my previous post???? or were you busy drinking PISS??
Your Proof was non-authentic..... I suggest you read my previous post but this time without drinking piss. Then only you`ll understand.... ]
Okay shitbrain.
Pull your head out of your favorite Mullah`s a$$ and go to the madrassah-library.
Then tell me - what are the ACTUAL texts for the following:
Sahih Muslim
Book 8: The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah)
Book 8, Number 3309:
Book 8, Number 3310:
Book 8, Number 3311:
WHAT are the actual texts for Numbers 3309, 3310 and 3311?
Give me the actual texts and then their translations.
Let`s see who is lying.
#335 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 23, 2006 2:16:00 pm
#331 by anka-bhoot
[Do you now Hindu were brought to south africa as slaves????
Even your gandi was a slave in south africa......
maybe this is why you are all over the world.... ]
This what everyone thinks about Gandhi (guess what the world thinks about your pervert ``prophet``). The writer is a Methodist minister. Just imagine a Mullah writing something like this.
gandhi was no pitchman
Apple clicked on the wrong icon for its ``think different`` ad campaign.
BY BILL McKIBBEN | I`m writing this on a Macintosh, which is the only kind of computer I`ve ever owned. But if I ever need another one (and I may not -- I just use it as a glorified typewriter, and so it has oceans more power than I require), I`m going to buy a PC. And all because of an ad.
I was leafing through some magazine at the library when the back cover caught my eye: Mahatma Gandhi, cross-legged in front of his loom, wire-rim glasses perched down his nose, wearing only a loincloth that he had doubtless made himself. And in one corner, the Apple logo and the words ``Think Different.``
Despite its wounded grammar, this ad is not very difficult to decode. Gandhi has great power as an icon (in the archaic meaning of the word). One look at him and you think, ``simplicity,`` ``calm,`` ``rebellion without violence.`` The associations come as quickly and as powerfully as they do in an ad with, say, Pamela Anderson Lee, where you immediately think, ``sex on a beach.`` And for Apple, of course, it`s important to endow its box of chips with those associations. Fairly or not, Apple has long since lost the battle for ``efficiency,`` which is the chief virtue of the data age. It`s stuck defending a few niche markets -- design, education, certain kinds of media -- where rebellion remains a nostalgic touchstone. So Gandhi makes a certain kind of mercenary sense.
But Gandhi is different. While it is ignoble to use Albert Einstein (another of Apple`s icons) as a pitchman, it is not perhaps immoral in quite the same way. Einstein was more or less a part of his century; his magnificent mind did not take him outside the flow of recent history.
Gandhi really is different, far more different than the copywriter seems to have understood.
He was the eruption in this century, and in some ways this millennium, of a venerable idea, an idea that stretches back at least to the Buddha -- the idea that by leaving yourself behind you find yourself, that by renunciation you conquer. So it is bizarre to use him to sell products. When he died, all his belongings -- toothbrush, Bhagavad Gita, loincloth -- fit inside a couple of shoe boxes.
But that`s not the real degradation. Were Apple merely selling computers it would only be grubby to use Gandhi`s picture. Instead, of course, they`re trying to sell each of us an image of ourselves. Which is precisely what Gandhi spent his life trying to help people strip away. In the fight for Indian independence (against the biggest brand name of his era, the British Empire), he succeeded in helping a nation shrug off its own internalized sense of subjugation, its own sense that Britishness, like Appleness, was superior. And he did it without trying to substitute the usual nationalist passions.
He went well beyond that, too -- his battle against the caste system was in reality a battle against even more insidious self-labeling, against identities ingrained in the unconscious of an entire subcontinent. And though he was a devout man, he even tried to fight against the religious brands -- his prayers each night came not just from the Hindu scriptures, but from the Gospels, from the Koran. He was assassinated by a fanatic Hindu precisely for his lack of brand loyalty.
Gandhi believed there was something sacred and lovely at the center of people, and that to get to it each of us needed to cut through the various lusts and fears of everyday life. That was hard enough to do in village India; how much harder in our time and place, when we live amid a hurricane of messages and symbols all designed to overlay our own identity. Gandhi, in other words, was the chief spokesman against the consumer mentality since Christ -- against the idea that the ownership of a particular kind of computer might free you, make you more creative or rebellious or attractive.
Trying to sell a Macintosh with Gandhi`s image is every bit as ironic as selling cigarettes with a picture of healthy, sexy young bodies. (Or as ironic as the Land Rover ad some years ago that said: ``Celebrate Thoreau`s Birthday. Drive Through a Pond.``)
Eknath Easwaran, the California meditation teacher whose book ``Gandhi the Man`` is the simplest, and therefore loveliest, of the many Gandhi biographies, describes seeing Gandhi meditate during the evening prayer service in the last years of his life. The text that evening was from the second chapter of the Gita. As the sonorous verses were read, you could see him completely absorbed, his mind growing calm and still. His concentration was so complete that it was no longer the second chapter you were listening to, it was the second chapter you were seeing, witnessing for yourself the transformation it describes:
They are forever free who have broken
Out of the ego-cage I and mine
To be united with the Lord of Love.
This is the supreme state. Attain thou this
And pass from death to immortality.
On the other hand, you could have 1.6 Gb, a 10xCD-ROM, 128 MB RAM and a smug dose of superiority.
SALON | Nov. 4, 1997
Bill McKibben is a Methodist Sunday School teacher in upstate New York and the author of ``The End of Nature.`` Simon and Schuster will publish his new book, ``Maybe One: A Personal and Environmental Argument for Single Child Families,`` next spring.
[Do you now Hindu were brought to south africa as slaves????
Even your gandi was a slave in south africa......
maybe this is why you are all over the world.... ]
This what everyone thinks about Gandhi (guess what the world thinks about your pervert ``prophet``). The writer is a Methodist minister. Just imagine a Mullah writing something like this.
gandhi was no pitchman
Apple clicked on the wrong icon for its ``think different`` ad campaign.
BY BILL McKIBBEN | I`m writing this on a Macintosh, which is the only kind of computer I`ve ever owned. But if I ever need another one (and I may not -- I just use it as a glorified typewriter, and so it has oceans more power than I require), I`m going to buy a PC. And all because of an ad.
I was leafing through some magazine at the library when the back cover caught my eye: Mahatma Gandhi, cross-legged in front of his loom, wire-rim glasses perched down his nose, wearing only a loincloth that he had doubtless made himself. And in one corner, the Apple logo and the words ``Think Different.``
Despite its wounded grammar, this ad is not very difficult to decode. Gandhi has great power as an icon (in the archaic meaning of the word). One look at him and you think, ``simplicity,`` ``calm,`` ``rebellion without violence.`` The associations come as quickly and as powerfully as they do in an ad with, say, Pamela Anderson Lee, where you immediately think, ``sex on a beach.`` And for Apple, of course, it`s important to endow its box of chips with those associations. Fairly or not, Apple has long since lost the battle for ``efficiency,`` which is the chief virtue of the data age. It`s stuck defending a few niche markets -- design, education, certain kinds of media -- where rebellion remains a nostalgic touchstone. So Gandhi makes a certain kind of mercenary sense.
But Gandhi is different. While it is ignoble to use Albert Einstein (another of Apple`s icons) as a pitchman, it is not perhaps immoral in quite the same way. Einstein was more or less a part of his century; his magnificent mind did not take him outside the flow of recent history.
Gandhi really is different, far more different than the copywriter seems to have understood.
He was the eruption in this century, and in some ways this millennium, of a venerable idea, an idea that stretches back at least to the Buddha -- the idea that by leaving yourself behind you find yourself, that by renunciation you conquer. So it is bizarre to use him to sell products. When he died, all his belongings -- toothbrush, Bhagavad Gita, loincloth -- fit inside a couple of shoe boxes.
But that`s not the real degradation. Were Apple merely selling computers it would only be grubby to use Gandhi`s picture. Instead, of course, they`re trying to sell each of us an image of ourselves. Which is precisely what Gandhi spent his life trying to help people strip away. In the fight for Indian independence (against the biggest brand name of his era, the British Empire), he succeeded in helping a nation shrug off its own internalized sense of subjugation, its own sense that Britishness, like Appleness, was superior. And he did it without trying to substitute the usual nationalist passions.
He went well beyond that, too -- his battle against the caste system was in reality a battle against even more insidious self-labeling, against identities ingrained in the unconscious of an entire subcontinent. And though he was a devout man, he even tried to fight against the religious brands -- his prayers each night came not just from the Hindu scriptures, but from the Gospels, from the Koran. He was assassinated by a fanatic Hindu precisely for his lack of brand loyalty.
Gandhi believed there was something sacred and lovely at the center of people, and that to get to it each of us needed to cut through the various lusts and fears of everyday life. That was hard enough to do in village India; how much harder in our time and place, when we live amid a hurricane of messages and symbols all designed to overlay our own identity. Gandhi, in other words, was the chief spokesman against the consumer mentality since Christ -- against the idea that the ownership of a particular kind of computer might free you, make you more creative or rebellious or attractive.
Trying to sell a Macintosh with Gandhi`s image is every bit as ironic as selling cigarettes with a picture of healthy, sexy young bodies. (Or as ironic as the Land Rover ad some years ago that said: ``Celebrate Thoreau`s Birthday. Drive Through a Pond.``)
Eknath Easwaran, the California meditation teacher whose book ``Gandhi the Man`` is the simplest, and therefore loveliest, of the many Gandhi biographies, describes seeing Gandhi meditate during the evening prayer service in the last years of his life. The text that evening was from the second chapter of the Gita. As the sonorous verses were read, you could see him completely absorbed, his mind growing calm and still. His concentration was so complete that it was no longer the second chapter you were listening to, it was the second chapter you were seeing, witnessing for yourself the transformation it describes:
They are forever free who have broken
Out of the ego-cage I and mine
To be united with the Lord of Love.
This is the supreme state. Attain thou this
And pass from death to immortality.
On the other hand, you could have 1.6 Gb, a 10xCD-ROM, 128 MB RAM and a smug dose of superiority.
SALON | Nov. 4, 1997
Bill McKibben is a Methodist Sunday School teacher in upstate New York and the author of ``The End of Nature.`` Simon and Schuster will publish his new book, ``Maybe One: A Personal and Environmental Argument for Single Child Families,`` next spring.
#334 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 23, 2006 2:06:35 pm
#331 by anka-bhoot
Is that your ``prophet``?
:))
Is that your ``prophet``?
:))
#333 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 23, 2006 11:24:22 am
#331, 332
I think following a pedophile, serial rapist and mass murderer is the most low class you can get. How can you guys do that? Everyone knows Muhammad was a pervert and a pedophile. How can you?
Eeeeeeesh!!!
:)
I think following a pedophile, serial rapist and mass murderer is the most low class you can get. How can you guys do that? Everyone knows Muhammad was a pervert and a pedophile. How can you?
Eeeeeeesh!!!
:)
#332 Posted by discoverer on November 23, 2006 8:14:32 am
no use lad... we`ve been asking these HINDOOS the very same question but these hindoos won`t answer coz they don`t know the answer. The are truly following their religion like cows without knowing anything.
#331 Posted by ankaboot on November 23, 2006 5:05:56 am
Do you now Hindu were brought to south africa as slaves????
Even your gandi was a slave in south africa......
maybe this is why you are all over the world....
you guys love slavery. The truth is your caste system force you to be a slave. You are slave not only from your mind and body but also from your soul.
Tell me Krishna_abcd in simple manner.
*why do you believe in so many god and why your god love caste system?
*why do hinduism allow caste system?
*Why do Hinduism allow you to drink URINE?
*Dhroppati married 5 pandosss, Then why don`t Hindu chicks marries 5 men?
*Ram burned his wife. Is this the reason why you SATI your WOMEN?
*Why do Hindu inside india drink COW URINE but outside india, they eat their cow mataa?
Answer these questions first I guesswe had told you a lot about our religion
Even your gandi was a slave in south africa......
maybe this is why you are all over the world....
you guys love slavery. The truth is your caste system force you to be a slave. You are slave not only from your mind and body but also from your soul.
Tell me Krishna_abcd in simple manner.
*why do you believe in so many god and why your god love caste system?
*why do hinduism allow caste system?
*Why do Hinduism allow you to drink URINE?
*Dhroppati married 5 pandosss, Then why don`t Hindu chicks marries 5 men?
*Ram burned his wife. Is this the reason why you SATI your WOMEN?
*Why do Hindu inside india drink COW URINE but outside india, they eat their cow mataa?
Answer these questions first I guesswe had told you a lot about our religion
#330 Posted by discoverer on November 23, 2006 4:39:49 am
re:Krishna_abcd
``No, birdbrain. It is not from any website. It is from ISlamic Texts - I provide the reference of which book, and which chapter. Go to your Islamic library and look it up.
Islamic text huh???? Sahih Muslims does not speak of Aisha`s marrage....
were you reading my previous post???? or were you busy drinking PISS??
Your Proof was non-authentic..... I suggest you read my previous post but this time without drinking piss. Then only you`ll understand....
``You Jehadi Mooslas have camel-dung in your brain.
Indian child marriage (illegal under Indian law) is where one CHILD marries another CHILD.
But Muhammad the pervert married a CHILD when he was 53 YEARS old with GREY PUBIC hair.
Do you want me to show you the Proofs of how many HINDOOS marries a child. You fail to show us a real Proof. But remember I can show you that Dropatto was a Prostitue. Hindoo realigion allow child-adult marriage.
http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part18/chap6.htm
Do you see the difference? Or is your brain affected from drinking all that camel-piss?
OOO c`mon. We don`t drink piss its you will love srinking piss. Its there in your religion to drink piss and also use it as a alternate to PERFUME. Even your president loved piss. that`s aweful.....
You mean the one that started AFTER dozens of hindu men, women and children were burnt alive by Mooslas like you?
Well, that was a lesson. Hope you pedophile-following mooslas have learnt the lesson of not starting a riot again.
I mean the one in which INOCENT MUSLIMS were slaugther by HOMO RAM followers. Thats` the reality..... HINDOO love VIOLENCE, this is what HINDUSIM teaches...... HINDOO hates SIKH, MUSLIMS, CHRISTAIN etc but still consider themselves peace loving. wht bullshit....
``Mooslas are the biggest snakes in the world. Throughout the world, they always create trouble. In China, in Thailand, in India, in USA, in France, in Belgium, in Netherlands, in Sweden, in Germany. Nobody likes mooslas. They just TOLERATE you guys because of oil.``
In that case why are so many HINDOOS cleaning arabs shit in MIDDLEEAST????...
coz you know if oil finishes then HINDOOS will be unemployed.....
The only nation we know who love arab`s shit is HINDOOS......
HINDOO will drink their masters piss . imagine....
Mooslas are the worst. And they have bad breath, too. It`s from eating too much cow-intestine with garlic.
this is diss... A HINDOO who`s religion enforce them to drink piss is talking about bad breath. If your gaoo mataa is so disgusting then why you DRINK her PISS.
You havm`t answer why your religion have caste system? and you havn`t talked about your caste?And why HINDOO drink COW-PISS?Go get me a solid PROOF.
``No, birdbrain. It is not from any website. It is from ISlamic Texts - I provide the reference of which book, and which chapter. Go to your Islamic library and look it up.
Islamic text huh???? Sahih Muslims does not speak of Aisha`s marrage....
were you reading my previous post???? or were you busy drinking PISS??
Your Proof was non-authentic..... I suggest you read my previous post but this time without drinking piss. Then only you`ll understand....
``You Jehadi Mooslas have camel-dung in your brain.
Indian child marriage (illegal under Indian law) is where one CHILD marries another CHILD.
But Muhammad the pervert married a CHILD when he was 53 YEARS old with GREY PUBIC hair.
Do you want me to show you the Proofs of how many HINDOOS marries a child. You fail to show us a real Proof. But remember I can show you that Dropatto was a Prostitue. Hindoo realigion allow child-adult marriage.
http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part18/chap6.htm
Do you see the difference? Or is your brain affected from drinking all that camel-piss?
OOO c`mon. We don`t drink piss its you will love srinking piss. Its there in your religion to drink piss and also use it as a alternate to PERFUME. Even your president loved piss. that`s aweful.....
You mean the one that started AFTER dozens of hindu men, women and children were burnt alive by Mooslas like you?
Well, that was a lesson. Hope you pedophile-following mooslas have learnt the lesson of not starting a riot again.
I mean the one in which INOCENT MUSLIMS were slaugther by HOMO RAM followers. Thats` the reality..... HINDOO love VIOLENCE, this is what HINDUSIM teaches...... HINDOO hates SIKH, MUSLIMS, CHRISTAIN etc but still consider themselves peace loving. wht bullshit....
``Mooslas are the biggest snakes in the world. Throughout the world, they always create trouble. In China, in Thailand, in India, in USA, in France, in Belgium, in Netherlands, in Sweden, in Germany. Nobody likes mooslas. They just TOLERATE you guys because of oil.``
In that case why are so many HINDOOS cleaning arabs shit in MIDDLEEAST????...
coz you know if oil finishes then HINDOOS will be unemployed.....
The only nation we know who love arab`s shit is HINDOOS......
HINDOO will drink their masters piss . imagine....
Mooslas are the worst. And they have bad breath, too. It`s from eating too much cow-intestine with garlic.
this is diss... A HINDOO who`s religion enforce them to drink piss is talking about bad breath. If your gaoo mataa is so disgusting then why you DRINK her PISS.
You havm`t answer why your religion have caste system? and you havn`t talked about your caste?And why HINDOO drink COW-PISS?Go get me a solid PROOF.
#329 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 21, 2006 10:21:24 am
#327 by discoverer
[First of all.... You are a HINDOO, you definitly had takan these extract from a website. But you didn`t showed me links. Therefore, How can it be authentic??? don`t worry... I know exactly where you get this from.
it is from the website of so called Islamic Society of North America. www.isna.com or ummah.com or muslimhopes.com etc etc. These websiye ar all based in north america and such documentation about Aisha`s marrage is only available in english translation. And the real documentation which is only of 4 volume doesn`t speak about her being nine year old. ]
No, birdbrain. It is not from any website. It is from ISlamic Texts - I provide the reference of which book, and which chapter. Go to your Islamic library and look it up.
[our religion krishna enforce child marrage check the 2nd link up there.
read this link for shocking reality of india`s child marrage
http://www.ishipress.com/indiamar.htm
If muslims in india are marring to a child, then think about where they got this idea in the first place. ]
You Jehadi Mooslas have camel-dung in your brain.
Indian child marriage (illegal under Indian law) is where one CHILD marries another CHILD.
But Muhammad the pervert married a CHILD when he was 53 YEARS old with GREY PUBIC hair.
Do you see the difference? Or is your brain affected from drinking all that camel-piss?
[Remember GUJARAT riot??? or you forgot. Do you want me to remind you how many muslims died when compare to HINDOOS. India was a muslims state during MOGHAL`s rule, During British rule india was a non-religious colony of England. Only now you are HINDOO state. Beside yo can`t stop your 2nd largest population from praying. Well.. you can by religious riot. ]
You mean the one that started AFTER dozens of hindu men, women and children were burnt alive by Mooslas like you?
Well, that was a lesson. Hope you pedophile-following mooslas have learnt the lesson of not starting a riot again.
[HINDOOS as cow..... hummm... does that mean you HINDOOS drink each others urine? Hindoos are not like cow infact they are like snake. Asteen ka SAANP. They betrayed muslim, Sijh, GHORKA, Keralite etc etc and are prventing them from making ]
Mooslas are the biggest snakes in the world. Throughout the world, they always create trouble. In China, in Thailand, in India, in USA, in France, in Belgium, in Netherlands, in Sweden, in Germany. Nobody likes mooslas. They just TOLERATE you guys because of oil.
But oil won`t last for long. And then Moosla butts will be kicked out of every country back to their perverted Moosla lands - where they marry their own cousins.
Mooslas are the worst. And they have bad breath, too. It`s from eating too much cow-intestine with garlic.
Ugh!
[First of all.... You are a HINDOO, you definitly had takan these extract from a website. But you didn`t showed me links. Therefore, How can it be authentic??? don`t worry... I know exactly where you get this from.
it is from the website of so called Islamic Society of North America. www.isna.com or ummah.com or muslimhopes.com etc etc. These websiye ar all based in north america and such documentation about Aisha`s marrage is only available in english translation. And the real documentation which is only of 4 volume doesn`t speak about her being nine year old. ]
No, birdbrain. It is not from any website. It is from ISlamic Texts - I provide the reference of which book, and which chapter. Go to your Islamic library and look it up.
[our religion krishna enforce child marrage check the 2nd link up there.
read this link for shocking reality of india`s child marrage
http://www.ishipress.com/indiamar.htm
If muslims in india are marring to a child, then think about where they got this idea in the first place. ]
You Jehadi Mooslas have camel-dung in your brain.
Indian child marriage (illegal under Indian law) is where one CHILD marries another CHILD.
But Muhammad the pervert married a CHILD when he was 53 YEARS old with GREY PUBIC hair.
Do you see the difference? Or is your brain affected from drinking all that camel-piss?
[Remember GUJARAT riot??? or you forgot. Do you want me to remind you how many muslims died when compare to HINDOOS. India was a muslims state during MOGHAL`s rule, During British rule india was a non-religious colony of England. Only now you are HINDOO state. Beside yo can`t stop your 2nd largest population from praying. Well.. you can by religious riot. ]
You mean the one that started AFTER dozens of hindu men, women and children were burnt alive by Mooslas like you?
Well, that was a lesson. Hope you pedophile-following mooslas have learnt the lesson of not starting a riot again.
[HINDOOS as cow..... hummm... does that mean you HINDOOS drink each others urine? Hindoos are not like cow infact they are like snake. Asteen ka SAANP. They betrayed muslim, Sijh, GHORKA, Keralite etc etc and are prventing them from making ]
Mooslas are the biggest snakes in the world. Throughout the world, they always create trouble. In China, in Thailand, in India, in USA, in France, in Belgium, in Netherlands, in Sweden, in Germany. Nobody likes mooslas. They just TOLERATE you guys because of oil.
But oil won`t last for long. And then Moosla butts will be kicked out of every country back to their perverted Moosla lands - where they marry their own cousins.
Mooslas are the worst. And they have bad breath, too. It`s from eating too much cow-intestine with garlic.
Ugh!
#328 Posted by remember on November 21, 2006 6:51:02 am
I guess Krishna went for vacation or might be searching throught the web for his favourable articles...
#327 Posted by discoverer on November 20, 2006 3:48:29 am
re: Krishna_abcd
OOO HINDOO, drink some more piss and here we go .....
Sahih Muslim... Do you know what it is.... I guess you don`t. Sahih Muslim are books of Hadith. Now do you want me to tell you what Hadith is??? Go and search for it.
First of all.... You are a HINDOO, you definitly had takan these extract from a website. But you didn`t showed me links. Therefore, How can it be authentic??? don`t worry... I know exactly where you get this from.
it is from the website of so called Islamic Society of North America. www.isna.com or ummah.com or muslimhopes.com etc etc. These websiye ar all based in north america and such documentation about Aisha`s marrage is only available in english translation. And the real documentation which is only of 4 volume doesn`t speak about her being nine year old.
These website was criticize not only by Muslims society all of the world but also by north american muslims, due to its non-authentic source and extreme nature toward black.
here`s the link....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Society_of_North_America#Criticism
I know why you are confused. In india, HINDOOS are married when they are only 9 months old or they marry to a 9 year old child. Child marrage is quite common in your religion. Child marrage is india`s reality and it is difficut to stop..
http://www.hinduonnet.com/2002/04/30/stories/2002043000051000.htm
http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part18/chap6.htm
our religion krishna enforce child marrage check the 2nd link up there.
read this link for shocking reality of india`s child marrage
http://www.ishipress.com/indiamar.htm
If muslims in india are marring to a child, then think about where they got this idea in the first place.
``And about your other ideas about Muslims not allowed to pray. You have been taught a bunch of lies in your madrassah. All over India Muslims pray 5 times a day. Get up, sit down - the whole nine yards. In fact, in Patna, Bihar, a Chief Justice was recently transferred because he spoke out against the illegal blaring of loudspeakers in a mosque 5-times a day right across the street from the Patna High court.
Try that loudspeaker stuff in any other non-Islamic country and you will be kicked out like dogs. But Hindus - they are like cows. And the lefty bastards are always there to help the Islamic cause.``
Remember GUJARAT riot??? or you forgot. Do you want me to remind you how many muslims died when compare to HINDOOS. India was a muslims state during MOGHAL`s rule, During British rule india was a non-religious colony of England. Only now you are HINDOO state. Beside yo can`t stop your 2nd largest population from praying. Well.. you can by religious riot.
HINDOOS as cow..... hummm... does that mean you HINDOOS drink each others urine? Hindoos are not like cow infact they are like snake. Asteen ka SAANP. They betrayed muslim, Sijh, GHORKA, Keralite etc etc and are prventing them from making there own independent state as promise in 1947.
OOO HINDOO, drink some more piss and here we go .....
Sahih Muslim... Do you know what it is.... I guess you don`t. Sahih Muslim are books of Hadith. Now do you want me to tell you what Hadith is??? Go and search for it.
First of all.... You are a HINDOO, you definitly had takan these extract from a website. But you didn`t showed me links. Therefore, How can it be authentic??? don`t worry... I know exactly where you get this from.
it is from the website of so called Islamic Society of North America. www.isna.com or ummah.com or muslimhopes.com etc etc. These websiye ar all based in north america and such documentation about Aisha`s marrage is only available in english translation. And the real documentation which is only of 4 volume doesn`t speak about her being nine year old.
These website was criticize not only by Muslims society all of the world but also by north american muslims, due to its non-authentic source and extreme nature toward black.
here`s the link....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Society_of_North_America#Criticism
I know why you are confused. In india, HINDOOS are married when they are only 9 months old or they marry to a 9 year old child. Child marrage is quite common in your religion. Child marrage is india`s reality and it is difficut to stop..
http://www.hinduonnet.com/2002/04/30/stories/2002043000051000.htm
http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part18/chap6.htm
our religion krishna enforce child marrage check the 2nd link up there.
read this link for shocking reality of india`s child marrage
http://www.ishipress.com/indiamar.htm
If muslims in india are marring to a child, then think about where they got this idea in the first place.
``And about your other ideas about Muslims not allowed to pray. You have been taught a bunch of lies in your madrassah. All over India Muslims pray 5 times a day. Get up, sit down - the whole nine yards. In fact, in Patna, Bihar, a Chief Justice was recently transferred because he spoke out against the illegal blaring of loudspeakers in a mosque 5-times a day right across the street from the Patna High court.
Try that loudspeaker stuff in any other non-Islamic country and you will be kicked out like dogs. But Hindus - they are like cows. And the lefty bastards are always there to help the Islamic cause.``
Remember GUJARAT riot??? or you forgot. Do you want me to remind you how many muslims died when compare to HINDOOS. India was a muslims state during MOGHAL`s rule, During British rule india was a non-religious colony of England. Only now you are HINDOO state. Beside yo can`t stop your 2nd largest population from praying. Well.. you can by religious riot.
HINDOOS as cow..... hummm... does that mean you HINDOOS drink each others urine? Hindoos are not like cow infact they are like snake. Asteen ka SAANP. They betrayed muslim, Sijh, GHORKA, Keralite etc etc and are prventing them from making there own independent state as promise in 1947.
#326 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 18, 2006 9:58:06 am
misc by Dicoverer and remember
Here`s some documentation:
Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 8:
The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah)
Chapter 10: IT IS PERMISSIBLE FOR THE FATHER TO GIVE THE HAND OF HIS DAUGHTER IN MARRIAGE EVEN WHEN SHE IS NOT FULLY GROWN UP
Book 008, Number 3309:
`A`isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah`s Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah`s Messenger (, may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him.
Book 008, Number 3310:
`A`isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah`s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Book 008, Number 3311:
`A`isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah`s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.
There is a lot more documentation. Let me know if you want more.
And about your other ideas about Muslims not allowed to pray. You have been taught a bunch of lies in your madrassah. All over India Muslims pray 5 times a day. Get up, sit down - the whole nine yards. In fact, in Patna, Bihar, a Chief Justice was recently transferred because he spoke out against the illegal blaring of loudspeakers in a mosque 5-times a day right across the street from the Patna High court.
Try that loudspeaker stuff in any other non-Islamic country and you will be kicked out like dogs. But Hindus - they are like cows. And the lefty bastards are always there to help the Islamic cause.
Here`s some documentation:
Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 8:
The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah)
Chapter 10: IT IS PERMISSIBLE FOR THE FATHER TO GIVE THE HAND OF HIS DAUGHTER IN MARRIAGE EVEN WHEN SHE IS NOT FULLY GROWN UP
Book 008, Number 3309:
`A`isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah`s Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah`s Messenger (, may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him.
Book 008, Number 3310:
`A`isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah`s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Book 008, Number 3311:
`A`isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah`s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.
There is a lot more documentation. Let me know if you want more.
And about your other ideas about Muslims not allowed to pray. You have been taught a bunch of lies in your madrassah. All over India Muslims pray 5 times a day. Get up, sit down - the whole nine yards. In fact, in Patna, Bihar, a Chief Justice was recently transferred because he spoke out against the illegal blaring of loudspeakers in a mosque 5-times a day right across the street from the Patna High court.
Try that loudspeaker stuff in any other non-Islamic country and you will be kicked out like dogs. But Hindus - they are like cows. And the lefty bastards are always there to help the Islamic cause.
#325 Posted by discoverer on November 17, 2006 1:16:06 pm
It is like a mass of evil just across the border. I am sure that Madrassas and Mullas are the people that spread these lies. You may be surprised to find that Hindu priests are not involved in any indoctrination of Hindus.
If these were lies THEN PROOF it. You couldn`t proof anything in these days, instead you were mocking others and hiding your face from the Truth. I`ll you why you gave up. You gave up because you couldn`t find any proof. If you could find them then you would have posted them. The training of blaming other religion without inquring about hindusim given by HINDU PRIEST inside your mandar is showing now.
Do you want me to show you how good HINDOOS are to their own KIND?
Do you want me to show you the PROOF of your inhuman act which is being taught by your own religion?[Human sacrifices and stuff]
Do you want me to Proof how many HINDOO priest are involve in mass murder of ACHOOT? the lower caste???
There are many question to ask but it seems that your negligence is wht make your kind unreliable to trust. The level of arrogance taught in your religion is constantly seens by your view of the world. Your religion teaches propoganda and intolerance to other religion which is a constant reminder of your daily rascial act, which we all witness recently in GUJARAT.
From child abuse to human sacrifice to prostitution, Hinduism legalise all. A religion which enforce woman to marry five man and in the meantime also supress their right is not considered a religion at all. Instead, it is a diesease which is eating man from the inside. This is the reason for your caste system:which hindu never talks about in the first place.
The major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim perception of God is the common Hindus’ belief in the philosophy of Pantheism. Pantheism considers everything, living and non-living, to be Divine and Sacred. The common Hindu, therefore, considers everything as God. He considers the trees as God, the sun as God, the moon as God, the monkey as God, the snake as God and even human beings as manifestations of God!. This explains why they sacrifice infant child or commit child molestation coz according to you everything is GOD, and you think you are actually mating with GOD by such act.
Consider the following verse from the Gita:
``Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.``
[Bhagavad Gita 7:20]
The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God. How thoughful you Hindoos are.....
Islam is a poisonous thing that survives and propagates by lying about the enemy - which is the rest of humanity.
You hindoos should be happy that we MUSLIMS conquered your shitty, barbaric land. Without muslims you would still be killing innocent female infant considering them as waste investment or worst sending them to your local prostitue center.
It is in every HINDOO`s blood to betray others and its being seen in history thousand of time. You are nothing but a by-product of your HINDOO society, blaming everyone but youself without ANY PROOF. But it s not just you but your whole kind have this defective genes which prvents you from the TRUTH.
You are nothing but a common hindu who takes the world for granted and consider every one but yourself as bad influence. The level of pornographic representation of your BAGWAN RAM, etc and HINDOOS humping policy had a deep effect on your thinking.
I think its wiser for you to leave this conservation coz by now its clear that all you do is blabbing lies and not truth. It a good thing not every one is a hindu otherwise we would be seeing every hindu sacrificing a child or burning their woman LIKE RAM SUGGESTED. HINDUISM is not bad for society but it is bad for mankind. I wish MOGAL would had eliminated HINDU from the face of the earth. By then we would had a better place to live in this world.
If these were lies THEN PROOF it. You couldn`t proof anything in these days, instead you were mocking others and hiding your face from the Truth. I`ll you why you gave up. You gave up because you couldn`t find any proof. If you could find them then you would have posted them. The training of blaming other religion without inquring about hindusim given by HINDU PRIEST inside your mandar is showing now.
Do you want me to show you how good HINDOOS are to their own KIND?
Do you want me to show you the PROOF of your inhuman act which is being taught by your own religion?[Human sacrifices and stuff]
Do you want me to Proof how many HINDOO priest are involve in mass murder of ACHOOT? the lower caste???
There are many question to ask but it seems that your negligence is wht make your kind unreliable to trust. The level of arrogance taught in your religion is constantly seens by your view of the world. Your religion teaches propoganda and intolerance to other religion which is a constant reminder of your daily rascial act, which we all witness recently in GUJARAT.
From child abuse to human sacrifice to prostitution, Hinduism legalise all. A religion which enforce woman to marry five man and in the meantime also supress their right is not considered a religion at all. Instead, it is a diesease which is eating man from the inside. This is the reason for your caste system:which hindu never talks about in the first place.
The major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim perception of God is the common Hindus’ belief in the philosophy of Pantheism. Pantheism considers everything, living and non-living, to be Divine and Sacred. The common Hindu, therefore, considers everything as God. He considers the trees as God, the sun as God, the moon as God, the monkey as God, the snake as God and even human beings as manifestations of God!. This explains why they sacrifice infant child or commit child molestation coz according to you everything is GOD, and you think you are actually mating with GOD by such act.
Consider the following verse from the Gita:
``Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.``
[Bhagavad Gita 7:20]
The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God. How thoughful you Hindoos are.....
Islam is a poisonous thing that survives and propagates by lying about the enemy - which is the rest of humanity.
You hindoos should be happy that we MUSLIMS conquered your shitty, barbaric land. Without muslims you would still be killing innocent female infant considering them as waste investment or worst sending them to your local prostitue center.
It is in every HINDOO`s blood to betray others and its being seen in history thousand of time. You are nothing but a by-product of your HINDOO society, blaming everyone but youself without ANY PROOF. But it s not just you but your whole kind have this defective genes which prvents you from the TRUTH.
You are nothing but a common hindu who takes the world for granted and consider every one but yourself as bad influence. The level of pornographic representation of your BAGWAN RAM, etc and HINDOOS humping policy had a deep effect on your thinking.
I think its wiser for you to leave this conservation coz by now its clear that all you do is blabbing lies and not truth. It a good thing not every one is a hindu otherwise we would be seeing every hindu sacrificing a child or burning their woman LIKE RAM SUGGESTED. HINDUISM is not bad for society but it is bad for mankind. I wish MOGAL would had eliminated HINDU from the face of the earth. By then we would had a better place to live in this world.
#324 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 17, 2006 9:40:14 am
#323 by discoverer
I give up. Your level of ignorance and indoctrination is so deep that taking each lie that you have been taught and proving to you that it is a lie would take too long. I shudder to think how many millions of Muslim Pakis are sitting right across the border who share these same lies as beliefs. It is like a mass of evil just across the border. I am sure that Madrassas and Mullas are the people that spread these lies. You may be surprised to find that Hindu priests are not involved in any indoctrination of Hindus.
The other day I was reading a quote from a prominent woman in the Pakistani Government. She said ``I did not let the negative propaganda about India in our textbooks affect my judgement as I was growing up`` (paraphrasing). Well she is a remarkable woman. But then there are cretins like yourself who believe all the Islamist lies they are fed. I used to know a Jewish guy from Iran. He used to say that Iranian Muslims tell their children that Jews use human blood (of Muslims) to make their bread. Apparently this is a widespread belief.
Islam is a poisonous thing that survives and propagates by lying about the enemy - which is the rest of humanity.
It is an evil cult that must be destroyed. For the good of the children in the rest of the world. Otherwise, the future of our planet is bleak.
I give up. Your level of ignorance and indoctrination is so deep that taking each lie that you have been taught and proving to you that it is a lie would take too long. I shudder to think how many millions of Muslim Pakis are sitting right across the border who share these same lies as beliefs. It is like a mass of evil just across the border. I am sure that Madrassas and Mullas are the people that spread these lies. You may be surprised to find that Hindu priests are not involved in any indoctrination of Hindus.
The other day I was reading a quote from a prominent woman in the Pakistani Government. She said ``I did not let the negative propaganda about India in our textbooks affect my judgement as I was growing up`` (paraphrasing). Well she is a remarkable woman. But then there are cretins like yourself who believe all the Islamist lies they are fed. I used to know a Jewish guy from Iran. He used to say that Iranian Muslims tell their children that Jews use human blood (of Muslims) to make their bread. Apparently this is a widespread belief.
Islam is a poisonous thing that survives and propagates by lying about the enemy - which is the rest of humanity.
It is an evil cult that must be destroyed. For the good of the children in the rest of the world. Otherwise, the future of our planet is bleak.
#323 Posted by discoverer on November 17, 2006 3:26:28 am
Where did you get the 5000 number? Paki information sources?
Naa...... here`s the link, search a little and you`ll understand..........
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2002/0316-IndiaPogrom.html
[MUSLIMS in india are always psychological tortured and forced to swift to pakistan........ ]
I wish.
[Mosque were demolished and in most part they are not allowed to pray............. ]
I wish that was true.
This is wht i have being calling. Your religion teaches rascism which you reflect....
Babree mosque and many more were destroyed by HINDOOS during riot, High paid post are not offered to muslims, instead they are reminded to leave to leave india.
None RECENTLY, eh? You guys are slacking off. Al-lah dude will not be happy.
remember was right about you. You are simply bull-shitting and wasting time. GOT N E PROOF. Beside you havn`t showed us any ISLAMIC TEXT which deals with pedophilies???
If there were Hindu terrorists and Hindu version of Jehad, then the world would know it. There is no Hindu terrorism in the world. Pakiland has not been able to produce EVEN ONE Hindu ``terrorist`` in so many years.
Ever heard of SHIV SINA and Bajrang dal. These party are one of india`s terrorist organisation and the world knows about them. How many times we have given PROOFS that indian terrorist are working in pakistan but the problem is our CORRUPT gvernmebt want SO CALLED PEACE and reject such reports.
India catches/kills hundreds every year - we send their bodies with their Paki passports to Pakiland, but the Pakis don`t want to admit, so they don`t take the bodies.
Typical HINDOO. will a terrorist walk around india with PAKISTANI passport??? talk some sense. It`s not your fault... India`s population is so much that you couldn`t distinguish your own people and therefore it is quite common to blame an ACHOOT as a TERRORIST.
In the beginning I thought I`d leave this alone. It gets tiring educating madrassa-educated Pakis with camel dung in their brain.
Another example given by piss-drinker.... remember said.... `` did you heard about ALGEBRA``.
The modern algebra that you are learning is the collective work of muslims scientist not from PISS drinker.. search through wikipedia again and you`ll find that...
numbers [123....] is the work of muslims sccientist.
Did you read carefully about how many HINDU scientist there were in history. Answer. some... Advancement in medical science, astronomy, maths, geology and so on were all done by muslims scientist. Search through the net and you`ll know.
You still havn`t proof your claim.....we are all waiting for your PROOF. You havn`y answer about your caste system and caste either. when will we hear your answers?
Naa...... here`s the link, search a little and you`ll understand..........
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2002/0316-IndiaPogrom.html
[MUSLIMS in india are always psychological tortured and forced to swift to pakistan........ ]
I wish.
[Mosque were demolished and in most part they are not allowed to pray............. ]
I wish that was true.
This is wht i have being calling. Your religion teaches rascism which you reflect....
Babree mosque and many more were destroyed by HINDOOS during riot, High paid post are not offered to muslims, instead they are reminded to leave to leave india.
None RECENTLY, eh? You guys are slacking off. Al-lah dude will not be happy.
remember was right about you. You are simply bull-shitting and wasting time. GOT N E PROOF. Beside you havn`t showed us any ISLAMIC TEXT which deals with pedophilies???
If there were Hindu terrorists and Hindu version of Jehad, then the world would know it. There is no Hindu terrorism in the world. Pakiland has not been able to produce EVEN ONE Hindu ``terrorist`` in so many years.
Ever heard of SHIV SINA and Bajrang dal. These party are one of india`s terrorist organisation and the world knows about them. How many times we have given PROOFS that indian terrorist are working in pakistan but the problem is our CORRUPT gvernmebt want SO CALLED PEACE and reject such reports.
India catches/kills hundreds every year - we send their bodies with their Paki passports to Pakiland, but the Pakis don`t want to admit, so they don`t take the bodies.
Typical HINDOO. will a terrorist walk around india with PAKISTANI passport??? talk some sense. It`s not your fault... India`s population is so much that you couldn`t distinguish your own people and therefore it is quite common to blame an ACHOOT as a TERRORIST.
In the beginning I thought I`d leave this alone. It gets tiring educating madrassa-educated Pakis with camel dung in their brain.
Another example given by piss-drinker.... remember said.... `` did you heard about ALGEBRA``.
The modern algebra that you are learning is the collective work of muslims scientist not from PISS drinker.. search through wikipedia again and you`ll find that...
numbers [123....] is the work of muslims sccientist.
Did you read carefully about how many HINDU scientist there were in history. Answer. some... Advancement in medical science, astronomy, maths, geology and so on were all done by muslims scientist. Search through the net and you`ll know.
You still havn`t proof your claim.....we are all waiting for your PROOF. You havn`y answer about your caste system and caste either. when will we hear your answers?
#322 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 17, 2006 1:11:39 am
#320 by remember
[They do huh????...... if they do then how come they are not allowed to eat meat[cow]........
Why 5000 muslims were slaughter in GUJARAT riots................ ]
Where did you get the 5000 number? Paki information sources?
[MUSLIMS in india are always psychological tortured and forced to swift to pakistan........ ]
I wish.
[Mosque were demolished and in most part they are not allowed to pray............. ]
I wish that was true.
[None of that happens in PAKISTAN........... no mandar of your were demolished recently........... ]
None RECENTLY, eh? You guys are slacking off. Al-lah dude will not be happy.
[They do huh????...... if they do then how come they are not allowed to eat meat[cow]........
Why 5000 muslims were slaughter in GUJARAT riots................ ]
Where did you get the 5000 number? Paki information sources?
[MUSLIMS in india are always psychological tortured and forced to swift to pakistan........ ]
I wish.
[Mosque were demolished and in most part they are not allowed to pray............. ]
I wish that was true.
[None of that happens in PAKISTAN........... no mandar of your were demolished recently........... ]
None RECENTLY, eh? You guys are slacking off. Al-lah dude will not be happy.
#321 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 17, 2006 12:47:00 am
#320 by remember
[In that case so many terrorist activity in pakistan are done by INDIA. and innocent civilians are killed by RAW.]
If there were Hindu terrorists and Hindu version of Jehad, then the world would know it. There is no Hindu terrorism in the world. Pakiland has not been able to produce EVEN ONE Hindu ``terrorist`` in so many years.
India catches/kills hundreds every year - we send their bodies with their Paki passports to Pakiland, but the Pakis don`t want to admit, so they don`t take the bodies.
Shame on you Pakis......
[Ofcourse what do an country know about education.let me show you the height of MUSLIM educational level..... EVER heard of algebra....
I think so.... well guess what...... it an ARABIC word..... AL-jibra.
The name is derived from the treatise written by the Persian mathematician Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Ḵwārizmī titled Al-Kitab al-Jabr wa-l-Muqabala (meaning ``The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing``), which provided symbolic operations for the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations. ]
In the beginning I thought I`d leave this alone. It gets tiring educating madrassa-educated Pakis with camel dung in their brain.
Here`s the link. Educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra#History
Here`s the timeline:
The stages of the development of symbolic algebra are roughly as follows:
Rhetorical algebra, which was developed by the Babylonians and remained dominant up to the 16th century;
Geometric constructive algebra, which was emphasised by the Vedic Indian and classical Greek mathematicians;
Syncopated algebra, as developed by Diophantus and in the Bakhshali Manuscript; and
Symbolic algebra, which sees its culmination in the work of Leibniz.
Cover of the 1621 edition of Diophantus` Arithmetica, translated into Latin by Claude Gaspard Bachet de Méziriac.A timeline of key algebraic developments are as follows:
Circa 1800 BC: The Old Babylonian Strassburg tablet seeks the solution of a quadratic elliptic equation.
Circa 1600 BC: The Plimpton 322 tablet gives a table of Pythagorean triples in Babylonian Cuneiform script.
Circa 800 BC: Indian mathematician Baudhayana, in his Baudhayana Sulba Sutra, discovers Pythagorean triples algebraically, finds geometric solutions of linear equations and quadratic equations of the forms ax2 = c and ax2 + bx = c, and finds two sets of positive integral solutions to a set of simultaneous Diophantine equations.
Circa 600 BC: Indian mathematician Apastamba, in his Apastamba Sulba Sutra, solves the general linear equation and uses simultaneous Diophantine equations with up to five unknowns.
Circa 300 BC: In Book II of his Elements, Euclid gives a geometric construction with Euclidean tools for the solution of the quadratic equation for positive real roots. The construction is due to the Pythagorean School of geometry.
Circa 300 BC: A geometric construction for the solution of the cubic is sought (doubling the cube problem). It is now well known that the general cubic has no such solution using Euclidean tools.
Circa 100 BC: Algebraic equations are treated in the Chinese mathematics book Jiuzhang suanshu (The Nine Chapters on the Mathematical Art), which contains solutions of linear equations solved using the rule of double false position, geometric solutions of quadratic equations, and the solutions of matrices equivalent to the modern method, to solve systems of simultaneous linear equations.
Circa 100 BC: The Bakhshali Manuscript written in ancient India uses a form of algebraic notation using letters of the alphabet and other signs, and contains cubic and quartic equations, algebraic solutions of linear equations with up to five unknowns, the general algebraic formula for the quadratic equation, and solutions of indeterminate quadratic equations and simultaneous equations.
Circa 150 AD: Hellenized Egyptian mathematician Hero of Alexandria, treats algebraic equations in three volumes of mathematics.
Circa 200: Hellenized Babylonian mathematician Diophantus, who lived in Egypt and is often considered the ``father of algebra``, writes his famous Arithmetica, a work featuring solutions of algebraic equations and on the theory of numbers.
499: Indian mathematician Aryabhata, in his treatise Aryabhatiya, obtains whole-number solutions to linear equations by a method equivalent to the modern one, describes the general integral solution of the indeterminate linear equation, gives integral solutions of simultaneous indeterminate linear equations, and describes a differential equation.
Circa 625: Chinese mathematician Wang Xiaotong finds numerical solutions of cubic equations.
628: Indian mathematician Brahmagupta, in his treatise Brahma Sputa Siddhanta, invents the chakravala method of solving indeterminate quadratic equations, including Pell`s equation, and gives rules for solving linear and quadratic equations. He discovers that quadratic equations have two roots, including both negative as well as irrational roots.
820: The word algebra is derived from operations described in the treatise written by the Persian mathematician Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Ḵwārizmī titled Al-Kitab al-Jabr wa-l-Muqabala (meaning ``The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing``) on the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations. Al-Khwarizmi is often considered as the ``father of algebra``, much of whose works on reduction was included in the book and added to many methods we have in algebra now.
Circa 850: Persian mathematician al-Mahani conceived the idea of reducing geometrical problems such as duplicating the cube to problems in algebra.
Circa 850: Indian mathematician Mahavira solves various quadratic, cubic, quartic, quintic and higher-order equations, as well as indeterminate quadratic, cubic and higher-order equations.
Circa 990: Persian Abu Bakr al-Karaji, in his treatise al-Fakhri, further develops algebra by extending Al-Khwarizmi`s methodology to incorporate integral powers and integral roots of unknown quantities. He replaces geometrical operations of algebra with modern arithmetical operations, and defines the monomials x, x2, x3, ... and 1/x, 1/x2, 1/x3, ... and gives rules for the products of any two of these.
Circa 1050: Chinese mathematician Jia Xian finds numerical solutions of polynomial equations.
1072: Persian mathematician Omar Khayyam develops algebraic geometry and, in the Treatise on Demonstration of Problems of Algebra, gives a complete classification of cubic equations with general geometric solutions found by means of intersecting conic sections.
1114: Indian mathematician Bhaskara, in his Bijaganita (Algebra), recognizes that a positive number has both a positive and negative square root, and solves quadratic equations with more than one unknown, various cubic, quartic and higher-order polynomial equations, Pell`s equation, the general indeterminate quadratic equation, as well as indeterminate cubic, quartic and higher-order equations.
1150: Bhaskara, in his Siddhanta Shiromani, solves differential equations.
1202: Algebra is introduced to Europe largely through the work of Leonardo Fibonacci of Pisa in his work Liber Abaci.
Circa 1300: Chinese mathematician Zhu Shijie deals with polynomial algebra, solves quadratic equations, simultaneous equations and equations with up to four unknowns, and numerically solves some quartic, quintic and higher-order polynomial equations.
Circa 1400: Indian mathematician Madhava of Sangamagramma finds the solution of transcendental equations by iteration, iterative methods for the solution of non-linear equations, and solutions of differential equations.
1515: Scipione del Ferro solves a cubic such that the quadratic term is missing.
1535: Nicolo Fontana Tartaglia solves a cubic such that the linear term is missing.
1545: Girolamo Cardano publishes Ars magna -The great art which gives solutions for a variety of cubics as well as Ludovico Ferrari`s solution of a special quartic equation.
1572: Rafael Bombelli recognizes the complex roots of the cubic and improves current notation.
1591: Francois Viete develops improved symbolic notation for various powers of an unknown and uses vowels for unknowns and consonants for constants in In artem analyticam isagoge.
1631: Thomas Harriot in a posthumus publication uses exponential notation and is the first to use symbols to indicate ``less than`` and ``greater than``.
1682: Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz develops his notion of symbolic manipulation with formal rules which he calls characteristica generalis.
1683: Japanese mathematician Kowa Seki, in his Method of solving the dissimulated problems, discovers the determinant, discriminant, and Bernoulli numbers.
1685: Kowa Seki solves the general cubic equation, as well as some quartic and quintic equations.
1693: Leibniz solves systems of simultaneous linear equations using matrices and determinants.
1750: Gabriel Cramer, in his treatise Introduction to the analysis of algebraic curves, states Cramer`s rule and studies algebraic curves, matrices and determinants.
1830: Galois theory is developed by Évariste Galois in his work on abstract algebra.
[In that case so many terrorist activity in pakistan are done by INDIA. and innocent civilians are killed by RAW.]
If there were Hindu terrorists and Hindu version of Jehad, then the world would know it. There is no Hindu terrorism in the world. Pakiland has not been able to produce EVEN ONE Hindu ``terrorist`` in so many years.
India catches/kills hundreds every year - we send their bodies with their Paki passports to Pakiland, but the Pakis don`t want to admit, so they don`t take the bodies.
Shame on you Pakis......
[Ofcourse what do an country know about education.let me show you the height of MUSLIM educational level..... EVER heard of algebra....
I think so.... well guess what...... it an ARABIC word..... AL-jibra.
The name is derived from the treatise written by the Persian mathematician Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Ḵwārizmī titled Al-Kitab al-Jabr wa-l-Muqabala (meaning ``The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing``), which provided symbolic operations for the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations. ]
In the beginning I thought I`d leave this alone. It gets tiring educating madrassa-educated Pakis with camel dung in their brain.
Here`s the link. Educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra#History
Here`s the timeline:
The stages of the development of symbolic algebra are roughly as follows:
Rhetorical algebra, which was developed by the Babylonians and remained dominant up to the 16th century;
Geometric constructive algebra, which was emphasised by the Vedic Indian and classical Greek mathematicians;
Syncopated algebra, as developed by Diophantus and in the Bakhshali Manuscript; and
Symbolic algebra, which sees its culmination in the work of Leibniz.
Cover of the 1621 edition of Diophantus` Arithmetica, translated into Latin by Claude Gaspard Bachet de Méziriac.A timeline of key algebraic developments are as follows:
Circa 1800 BC: The Old Babylonian Strassburg tablet seeks the solution of a quadratic elliptic equation.
Circa 1600 BC: The Plimpton 322 tablet gives a table of Pythagorean triples in Babylonian Cuneiform script.
Circa 800 BC: Indian mathematician Baudhayana, in his Baudhayana Sulba Sutra, discovers Pythagorean triples algebraically, finds geometric solutions of linear equations and quadratic equations of the forms ax2 = c and ax2 + bx = c, and finds two sets of positive integral solutions to a set of simultaneous Diophantine equations.
Circa 600 BC: Indian mathematician Apastamba, in his Apastamba Sulba Sutra, solves the general linear equation and uses simultaneous Diophantine equations with up to five unknowns.
Circa 300 BC: In Book II of his Elements, Euclid gives a geometric construction with Euclidean tools for the solution of the quadratic equation for positive real roots. The construction is due to the Pythagorean School of geometry.
Circa 300 BC: A geometric construction for the solution of the cubic is sought (doubling the cube problem). It is now well known that the general cubic has no such solution using Euclidean tools.
Circa 100 BC: Algebraic equations are treated in the Chinese mathematics book Jiuzhang suanshu (The Nine Chapters on the Mathematical Art), which contains solutions of linear equations solved using the rule of double false position, geometric solutions of quadratic equations, and the solutions of matrices equivalent to the modern method, to solve systems of simultaneous linear equations.
Circa 100 BC: The Bakhshali Manuscript written in ancient India uses a form of algebraic notation using letters of the alphabet and other signs, and contains cubic and quartic equations, algebraic solutions of linear equations with up to five unknowns, the general algebraic formula for the quadratic equation, and solutions of indeterminate quadratic equations and simultaneous equations.
Circa 150 AD: Hellenized Egyptian mathematician Hero of Alexandria, treats algebraic equations in three volumes of mathematics.
Circa 200: Hellenized Babylonian mathematician Diophantus, who lived in Egypt and is often considered the ``father of algebra``, writes his famous Arithmetica, a work featuring solutions of algebraic equations and on the theory of numbers.
499: Indian mathematician Aryabhata, in his treatise Aryabhatiya, obtains whole-number solutions to linear equations by a method equivalent to the modern one, describes the general integral solution of the indeterminate linear equation, gives integral solutions of simultaneous indeterminate linear equations, and describes a differential equation.
Circa 625: Chinese mathematician Wang Xiaotong finds numerical solutions of cubic equations.
628: Indian mathematician Brahmagupta, in his treatise Brahma Sputa Siddhanta, invents the chakravala method of solving indeterminate quadratic equations, including Pell`s equation, and gives rules for solving linear and quadratic equations. He discovers that quadratic equations have two roots, including both negative as well as irrational roots.
820: The word algebra is derived from operations described in the treatise written by the Persian mathematician Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Ḵwārizmī titled Al-Kitab al-Jabr wa-l-Muqabala (meaning ``The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing``) on the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations. Al-Khwarizmi is often considered as the ``father of algebra``, much of whose works on reduction was included in the book and added to many methods we have in algebra now.
Circa 850: Persian mathematician al-Mahani conceived the idea of reducing geometrical problems such as duplicating the cube to problems in algebra.
Circa 850: Indian mathematician Mahavira solves various quadratic, cubic, quartic, quintic and higher-order equations, as well as indeterminate quadratic, cubic and higher-order equations.
Circa 990: Persian Abu Bakr al-Karaji, in his treatise al-Fakhri, further develops algebra by extending Al-Khwarizmi`s methodology to incorporate integral powers and integral roots of unknown quantities. He replaces geometrical operations of algebra with modern arithmetical operations, and defines the monomials x, x2, x3, ... and 1/x, 1/x2, 1/x3, ... and gives rules for the products of any two of these.
Circa 1050: Chinese mathematician Jia Xian finds numerical solutions of polynomial equations.
1072: Persian mathematician Omar Khayyam develops algebraic geometry and, in the Treatise on Demonstration of Problems of Algebra, gives a complete classification of cubic equations with general geometric solutions found by means of intersecting conic sections.
1114: Indian mathematician Bhaskara, in his Bijaganita (Algebra), recognizes that a positive number has both a positive and negative square root, and solves quadratic equations with more than one unknown, various cubic, quartic and higher-order polynomial equations, Pell`s equation, the general indeterminate quadratic equation, as well as indeterminate cubic, quartic and higher-order equations.
1150: Bhaskara, in his Siddhanta Shiromani, solves differential equations.
1202: Algebra is introduced to Europe largely through the work of Leonardo Fibonacci of Pisa in his work Liber Abaci.
Circa 1300: Chinese mathematician Zhu Shijie deals with polynomial algebra, solves quadratic equations, simultaneous equations and equations with up to four unknowns, and numerically solves some quartic, quintic and higher-order polynomial equations.
Circa 1400: Indian mathematician Madhava of Sangamagramma finds the solution of transcendental equations by iteration, iterative methods for the solution of non-linear equations, and solutions of differential equations.
1515: Scipione del Ferro solves a cubic such that the quadratic term is missing.
1535: Nicolo Fontana Tartaglia solves a cubic such that the linear term is missing.
1545: Girolamo Cardano publishes Ars magna -The great art which gives solutions for a variety of cubics as well as Ludovico Ferrari`s solution of a special quartic equation.
1572: Rafael Bombelli recognizes the complex roots of the cubic and improves current notation.
1591: Francois Viete develops improved symbolic notation for various powers of an unknown and uses vowels for unknowns and consonants for constants in In artem analyticam isagoge.
1631: Thomas Harriot in a posthumus publication uses exponential notation and is the first to use symbols to indicate ``less than`` and ``greater than``.
1682: Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz develops his notion of symbolic manipulation with formal rules which he calls characteristica generalis.
1683: Japanese mathematician Kowa Seki, in his Method of solving the dissimulated problems, discovers the determinant, discriminant, and Bernoulli numbers.
1685: Kowa Seki solves the general cubic equation, as well as some quartic and quintic equations.
1693: Leibniz solves systems of simultaneous linear equations using matrices and determinants.
1750: Gabriel Cramer, in his treatise Introduction to the analysis of algebraic curves, states Cramer`s rule and studies algebraic curves, matrices and determinants.
1830: Galois theory is developed by Évariste Galois in his work on abstract algebra.
#320 Posted by remember on November 16, 2006 12:44:29 pm
It would be INTERNAL if you guys did not try to bomb innocent Indian civilians.
In that case so many terrorist activity in pakistan are done by INDIA. and innocent civilians are killed by RAW. I`ll tell you why it is internal... because HINDOOS whereever they go pollute there environment by their dogmatic believe.
Are all Muslims as bright as you in Pakiland?
No wonder the country is going down the tubes.
Ofcourse what do an country know about education.let me show you the height of MUSLIM educational level..... EVER heard of algebra....
I think so.... well guess what...... it an ARABIC word..... AL-jibra.
The name is derived from the treatise written by the Persian mathematician Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Ḵwārizmī titled Al-Kitab al-Jabr wa-l-Muqabala (meaning ``The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing``), which provided symbolic operations for the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations.
I guess you don`t need PROOF for this one.......or do you????
``I will. IMMEDIATELY after you say that you will renounce Islam after I show the proof.
Otherwise, what is the point? I have posted this proof MANY times under my previous nicks - Ajeya and Ramanujan.
Not from Faithfreedom, but from ISLAMIC Texts.``
Okay I accept your challenge and fom now on show me the your PROOF....
If you had given PROOFS many time under you previous nick then paste it again.....
Specially from ISLAM text..... BTW which ISLAMIC text are you referring????......
anyhow I need to see know.........
Yes, they do. India is a free country. Do Hindus have rights to convert Muslims in Pakiland?
They do huh????...... if they do then how come they are not allowed to eat meat[cow]........
Why 5000 muslims were slaughter in GUJARAT riots................
MUSLIMS in india are always psychological tortured and forced to swift to pakistan........
Mosque were demolished and in most part they are not allowed to pray.............
None of that happens in PAKISTAN........... no mandar of your were demolished recently...........
We have caste system because it is internal, and not affecting you pedophiles. We don`t want to convert any pedophile-lovers. THEREFORE it does not affect you. THEREFORE it is none of your business.
why is it internal ....... everyone diserve to know........if we can talk about our so called pedophile religion then why HINDOOS are so reluctant to talk about their religion......Or the fact is that you are hiding your face from the truth........ coz this is the darkside of HINDUISM.....
discoverer
This chabby is simply wasting time..... he don`t have any PROOF neither he is willing to JUSTIFY his religion..... he is simply bull-shitting...
In that case so many terrorist activity in pakistan are done by INDIA. and innocent civilians are killed by RAW. I`ll tell you why it is internal... because HINDOOS whereever they go pollute there environment by their dogmatic believe.
Are all Muslims as bright as you in Pakiland?
No wonder the country is going down the tubes.
Ofcourse what do an country know about education.let me show you the height of MUSLIM educational level..... EVER heard of algebra....
I think so.... well guess what...... it an ARABIC word..... AL-jibra.
The name is derived from the treatise written by the Persian mathematician Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Ḵwārizmī titled Al-Kitab al-Jabr wa-l-Muqabala (meaning ``The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing``), which provided symbolic operations for the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations.
I guess you don`t need PROOF for this one.......or do you????
``I will. IMMEDIATELY after you say that you will renounce Islam after I show the proof.
Otherwise, what is the point? I have posted this proof MANY times under my previous nicks - Ajeya and Ramanujan.
Not from Faithfreedom, but from ISLAMIC Texts.``
Okay I accept your challenge and fom now on show me the your PROOF....
If you had given PROOFS many time under you previous nick then paste it again.....
Specially from ISLAM text..... BTW which ISLAMIC text are you referring????......
anyhow I need to see know.........
Yes, they do. India is a free country. Do Hindus have rights to convert Muslims in Pakiland?
They do huh????...... if they do then how come they are not allowed to eat meat[cow]........
Why 5000 muslims were slaughter in GUJARAT riots................
MUSLIMS in india are always psychological tortured and forced to swift to pakistan........
Mosque were demolished and in most part they are not allowed to pray.............
None of that happens in PAKISTAN........... no mandar of your were demolished recently...........
We have caste system because it is internal, and not affecting you pedophiles. We don`t want to convert any pedophile-lovers. THEREFORE it does not affect you. THEREFORE it is none of your business.
why is it internal ....... everyone diserve to know........if we can talk about our so called pedophile religion then why HINDOOS are so reluctant to talk about their religion......Or the fact is that you are hiding your face from the truth........ coz this is the darkside of HINDUISM.....
discoverer
This chabby is simply wasting time..... he don`t have any PROOF neither he is willing to JUSTIFY his religion..... he is simply bull-shitting...
#319 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 16, 2006 10:34:22 am
#317 by remember
[I don`t think muslims in india have right to convert hindu.Do they have rights in india?..... ]
Yes, they do. India is a free country. Do Hindus have rights to convert Muslims in Pakiland?
[I had being readin all your post and I found that from no where you guys pop-up and started talking about our internal matter.....WAHABISM...... ]
It would be INTERNAL if you guys did not try to bomb innocent Indian civilians.
[If ISLAM affect YOU then INTERNAL HINDU PROBLEMS affect us.]
Are all Muslims as bright as you in Pakiland?
No wonder the country is going down the tubes.
[I don`t think muslims in india have right to convert hindu.Do they have rights in india?..... ]
Yes, they do. India is a free country. Do Hindus have rights to convert Muslims in Pakiland?
[I had being readin all your post and I found that from no where you guys pop-up and started talking about our internal matter.....WAHABISM...... ]
It would be INTERNAL if you guys did not try to bomb innocent Indian civilians.
[If ISLAM affect YOU then INTERNAL HINDU PROBLEMS affect us.]
Are all Muslims as bright as you in Pakiland?
No wonder the country is going down the tubes.
#318 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 16, 2006 10:30:42 am
#316 by discoverer
[If there are any then why not show us.]
I will. IMMEDIATELY after you say that you will renounce Islam after I show the proof.
Otherwise, what is the point? I have posted this proof MANY times under my previous nicks - Ajeya and Ramanujan.
Not from Faithfreedom, but from ISLAMIC Texts.
[Beside you havn`t answer why you have caste system and what caste you are from? ]
We have caste system because it is internal, and not affecting you pedophiles. We don`t want to convert any pedophile-lovers. THEREFORE it does not affect you. THEREFORE it is none of your business.
[If there are any then why not show us.]
I will. IMMEDIATELY after you say that you will renounce Islam after I show the proof.
Otherwise, what is the point? I have posted this proof MANY times under my previous nicks - Ajeya and Ramanujan.
Not from Faithfreedom, but from ISLAMIC Texts.
[Beside you havn`t answer why you have caste system and what caste you are from? ]
We have caste system because it is internal, and not affecting you pedophiles. We don`t want to convert any pedophile-lovers. THEREFORE it does not affect you. THEREFORE it is none of your business.
#317 Posted by remember on November 16, 2006 4:08:09 am
Why do you want to talk about it? Eh? We Hindus are not trying to convert you, or do global jehad. Then why do you want to talk about our INTERNAL Hindu problems THAT DO NOT AFFECT YOU? Huh?
I want to know!!!!..
I want to know why Hindu thinks that the world is trying to convert them.....
I don`t think any member of chowk.com is trying to convert you.......
I don`t think muslims in india have right to convert hindu.Do they have rights in india?.....
I had being readin all your post and I found that from no where you guys pop-up and started talking about our internal matter.....WAHABISM......
That forced us to know about your religion. OR simply because I havn`t seen any article in chowk which deals with your religion.
If ISLAM affect YOU then INTERNAL HINDU PROBLEMS affect us.
I want to know!!!!..
I want to know why Hindu thinks that the world is trying to convert them.....
I don`t think any member of chowk.com is trying to convert you.......
I don`t think muslims in india have right to convert hindu.Do they have rights in india?.....
I had being readin all your post and I found that from no where you guys pop-up and started talking about our internal matter.....WAHABISM......
That forced us to know about your religion. OR simply because I havn`t seen any article in chowk which deals with your religion.
If ISLAM affect YOU then INTERNAL HINDU PROBLEMS affect us.
#316 Posted by discoverer on November 16, 2006 3:17:11 am
re:krishna_abcd
We Hindus are a free people. We are not beholden to anybody. That is the beauty of Hindu culture. We are not scared shitless of priests - we don`t have to consult them about anything. NOBODY in the Hindu world can tell me if I am a good Hindu or a bad Hindu. It is nobody`s business but mine.
When to HINDOO started calling themseleves as free people. The word Hindu is a mark of slavery. Tell me, which ancient text has this rubbish word to describe people of India. I bet- you will find none. The word Hindu, dervied from Sindhu was used to refer derogatorily to people on eastern side of Indus river by those on the other side. To them, Hindu meant a Black Thief. You need Proof here`s the link......
http://www.hknet.org.nz/Hindu-slaves.html
Not only that HINDOOS slaves were brought from INDIA to South Africa for labour work.
Scared, eh? Don`t want to commit? Why don`t you say ``Yes, I will renounce Islam if you show me documented proof about Muhammad being a pedophile or any of the rest of the allegations``?
Sacred??? I was the one who is forcing you to SHOW PROOF but it seems you haven`t found any because there are none. You could match the amount of PROOFS i had given you in these past days. I have given you PROOFS from hindu specialist about there view on dhroppattia and RAM and other gang members. But all you showed me is ALI SINA`s links....
You know whyyou will not say that? Because you KNOW it is true. That`s why.
If there are any then why not show us.We did our part, you do yours. Beside you havn`t answer why you have caste system and what caste you are from?
We Hindus are a free people. We are not beholden to anybody. That is the beauty of Hindu culture. We are not scared shitless of priests - we don`t have to consult them about anything. NOBODY in the Hindu world can tell me if I am a good Hindu or a bad Hindu. It is nobody`s business but mine.
When to HINDOO started calling themseleves as free people. The word Hindu is a mark of slavery. Tell me, which ancient text has this rubbish word to describe people of India. I bet- you will find none. The word Hindu, dervied from Sindhu was used to refer derogatorily to people on eastern side of Indus river by those on the other side. To them, Hindu meant a Black Thief. You need Proof here`s the link......
http://www.hknet.org.nz/Hindu-slaves.html
Not only that HINDOOS slaves were brought from INDIA to South Africa for labour work.
Scared, eh? Don`t want to commit? Why don`t you say ``Yes, I will renounce Islam if you show me documented proof about Muhammad being a pedophile or any of the rest of the allegations``?
Sacred??? I was the one who is forcing you to SHOW PROOF but it seems you haven`t found any because there are none. You could match the amount of PROOFS i had given you in these past days. I have given you PROOFS from hindu specialist about there view on dhroppattia and RAM and other gang members. But all you showed me is ALI SINA`s links....
You know whyyou will not say that? Because you KNOW it is true. That`s why.
If there are any then why not show us.We did our part, you do yours. Beside you havn`t answer why you have caste system and what caste you are from?
#315 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 15, 2006 10:29:41 pm
#313 by remember
[If you had PROOF, you would have shown that long time ago...... ]
If you had any sense, you would have drowned yourself a long time ago. :)
[Why are you so reluctant to talk about your Hinduism. Does Discoverer`s claim on your religion legit?]
Why do you want to talk about it? Eh? We Hindus are not trying to convert you, or do global jehad. Then why do you want to talk about our INTERNAL Hindu problems THAT DO NOT AFFECT YOU? Huh?
[If you had PROOF, you would have shown that long time ago...... ]
If you had any sense, you would have drowned yourself a long time ago. :)
[Why are you so reluctant to talk about your Hinduism. Does Discoverer`s claim on your religion legit?]
Why do you want to talk about it? Eh? We Hindus are not trying to convert you, or do global jehad. Then why do you want to talk about our INTERNAL Hindu problems THAT DO NOT AFFECT YOU? Huh?
#314 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 15, 2006 10:26:49 pm
#312 by discoverer
[I though you were missing in action. After consulting with your pandit you brough something for me. ]
We Hindus are a free people. We are not beholden to anybody. That is the beauty of Hindu culture. We are not scared shitless of priests - we don`t have to consult them about anything. NOBODY in the Hindu world can tell me if I am a good Hindu or a bad Hindu. It is nobody`s business but mine.
[1st answers my questions and then I`ll answer your. What is your caste and why your religion want you to drink PISS.
and ofcourse show us PROOF.]
Scared, eh? Don`t want to commit? Why don`t you say ``Yes, I will renounce Islam if you show me documented proof about Muhammad being a pedophile or any of the rest of the allegations``?
You know whyyou will not say that? Because you KNOW it is true. That`s why.
Pathetic. Very pathetic...
[I though you were missing in action. After consulting with your pandit you brough something for me. ]
We Hindus are a free people. We are not beholden to anybody. That is the beauty of Hindu culture. We are not scared shitless of priests - we don`t have to consult them about anything. NOBODY in the Hindu world can tell me if I am a good Hindu or a bad Hindu. It is nobody`s business but mine.
[1st answers my questions and then I`ll answer your. What is your caste and why your religion want you to drink PISS.
and ofcourse show us PROOF.]
Scared, eh? Don`t want to commit? Why don`t you say ``Yes, I will renounce Islam if you show me documented proof about Muhammad being a pedophile or any of the rest of the allegations``?
You know whyyou will not say that? Because you KNOW it is true. That`s why.
Pathetic. Very pathetic...
#313 Posted by remember on November 15, 2006 2:31:50 am
krishna_abcd
If you had PROOF, you would have shown that long time ago......
Why are you so reluctant to talk about your Hinduism. Does Discoverer`s claim on your religion legit?
If you had PROOF, you would have shown that long time ago......
Why are you so reluctant to talk about your Hinduism. Does Discoverer`s claim on your religion legit?
#312 Posted by discoverer on November 15, 2006 2:11:09 am
I though you were missing in action. After consulting with your pandit you brough something for me.
Let me guesss, if your PROOF is from faith freedom international then no point. Beside you couldn`t justify your OWN religion which force you to believe in a PROSTITUTE and a gay RAM...
1st answers my questions and then I`ll answer your. What is your caste and why your religion want you to drink PISS.
and ofcourse show us PROOF.
Let me guesss, if your PROOF is from faith freedom international then no point. Beside you couldn`t justify your OWN religion which force you to believe in a PROSTITUTE and a gay RAM...
1st answers my questions and then I`ll answer your. What is your caste and why your religion want you to drink PISS.
and ofcourse show us PROOF.
#311 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 14, 2006 11:20:15 pm
#309 by discoverer
[You HINDOO really don`t understand a direct question.
Ofcourse show me proof by giving me the link of the website with such claim or wise versa coz I don`t never heard any of it.]
If I give you proof, would you then agree that Islam is not something worth following?
If you agree, then I`ll give you proof.
How is that for a direct answer?
Now answer my direct question.
[You HINDOO really don`t understand a direct question.
Ofcourse show me proof by giving me the link of the website with such claim or wise versa coz I don`t never heard any of it.]
If I give you proof, would you then agree that Islam is not something worth following?
If you agree, then I`ll give you proof.
How is that for a direct answer?
Now answer my direct question.
#310 Posted by remember on November 14, 2006 8:13:35 am
Let me spice up this conversation
INDIA: Mixed-caste couple hanged by own families
Posted 9.8.2001
URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION
ASIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION - URGENT APPEALS PROGRAM
9 August 2001
UA-28-2001 - Mixed-caste couple hanged by own families
INDIA: Caste based discrimination - a distinct form of racial discrimination on the basis of work and descent; right to life & marriage
In a stark reminder that caste discrimination is still rife in India, a pair of mixed-caste lovers were hanged in public last Monday by their own family members in Alipur village, Muzaffarnagar district, in the state of Uttar Pradesh.
According to the Muzzaffarnagar district police chief, a 20-year-old man Vishal (a high caste Brahmin) and an 18-year-old woman Sonu (from the lower caste Jat community) were hanged to death because they belonged to different castes and were in love with each other. The families of both the boy and girl brought them to the roof of a village house and hanged them one after the other in front of hundreds of villagers supporting the murder.
Seven people have been arrested by the police, but this is not the first time there have been such murders in the district of Muzzaffarnagar. In 1993, a pair of mixed-caste lovers were set upon by their local community and killed, while another couple were hacked to death in a rickshaw in March this year.
BACKGROUND
This tragic incident should open the eyes of the world to the reality of caste discrimination in South Asia. In fact the problem goes much deeper than preventing inter-caste marriages. For a Dalit (`low-caste untouchable`) to drink from the upper caste well, enter an upper caste home, sit with upper caste students, worship in an upper caste temple, or do work outside of their caste-designated jobs, is still considered such an extreme crime in parts of India that it can be punishable by rape, economic boycott, stripping and public parading or murder. These atrocities happen every week in India and Nepal, and often go unreported, uninvestigated, or ignored by police.
There are similar caste discrimination problems all through South Asia, and also in Japan, Mauritania, Nigeria, Senegal and amongst the Indian diaspora. The total number of victims of caste discrimination is over 250 million worldwide, meaning one in every 25 people are affected. The vast majority of these - around 190 millions Dalits - are in India
You may be aware that the Indian government is aggressively opposing the inclusion of caste discrimination in the World Conference Against Racism being held in South Africa later this month. Many other governments have decided it is easier to not upset India than to stand up for an end to caste discrimination. The Indian government says caste does not belong in the conference because it is not about biologically different races. But the UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimation has found that caste is a distinct form of racial discrimination on the basis of work and descent.
The Indian government also says that it has a good constitution, set of laws, and policies designed to counter caste discrimination, which is true. But the measures have rarely been implemented, and so we still see Dalits collecting human faeces for work; being told not to bother studying by their teachers; being forced into `temple prostitution` and being violently punished for breaking caste rules. This latest incident shows that caste is still rampant in India, and that without international attention and pressure, there is no way the caste system will ever be resolved, as those holding the reins of power are the ones gaining from the caste system.
INDIA: Mixed-caste couple hanged by own families
Posted 9.8.2001
URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION
ASIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION - URGENT APPEALS PROGRAM
9 August 2001
UA-28-2001 - Mixed-caste couple hanged by own families
INDIA: Caste based discrimination - a distinct form of racial discrimination on the basis of work and descent; right to life & marriage
In a stark reminder that caste discrimination is still rife in India, a pair of mixed-caste lovers were hanged in public last Monday by their own family members in Alipur village, Muzaffarnagar district, in the state of Uttar Pradesh.
According to the Muzzaffarnagar district police chief, a 20-year-old man Vishal (a high caste Brahmin) and an 18-year-old woman Sonu (from the lower caste Jat community) were hanged to death because they belonged to different castes and were in love with each other. The families of both the boy and girl brought them to the roof of a village house and hanged them one after the other in front of hundreds of villagers supporting the murder.
Seven people have been arrested by the police, but this is not the first time there have been such murders in the district of Muzzaffarnagar. In 1993, a pair of mixed-caste lovers were set upon by their local community and killed, while another couple were hacked to death in a rickshaw in March this year.
BACKGROUND
This tragic incident should open the eyes of the world to the reality of caste discrimination in South Asia. In fact the problem goes much deeper than preventing inter-caste marriages. For a Dalit (`low-caste untouchable`) to drink from the upper caste well, enter an upper caste home, sit with upper caste students, worship in an upper caste temple, or do work outside of their caste-designated jobs, is still considered such an extreme crime in parts of India that it can be punishable by rape, economic boycott, stripping and public parading or murder. These atrocities happen every week in India and Nepal, and often go unreported, uninvestigated, or ignored by police.
There are similar caste discrimination problems all through South Asia, and also in Japan, Mauritania, Nigeria, Senegal and amongst the Indian diaspora. The total number of victims of caste discrimination is over 250 million worldwide, meaning one in every 25 people are affected. The vast majority of these - around 190 millions Dalits - are in India
You may be aware that the Indian government is aggressively opposing the inclusion of caste discrimination in the World Conference Against Racism being held in South Africa later this month. Many other governments have decided it is easier to not upset India than to stand up for an end to caste discrimination. The Indian government says caste does not belong in the conference because it is not about biologically different races. But the UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimation has found that caste is a distinct form of racial discrimination on the basis of work and descent.
The Indian government also says that it has a good constitution, set of laws, and policies designed to counter caste discrimination, which is true. But the measures have rarely been implemented, and so we still see Dalits collecting human faeces for work; being told not to bother studying by their teachers; being forced into `temple prostitution` and being violently punished for breaking caste rules. This latest incident shows that caste is still rampant in India, and that without international attention and pressure, there is no way the caste system will ever be resolved, as those holding the reins of power are the ones gaining from the caste system.
#309 Posted by discoverer on November 14, 2006 7:36:53 am
re:harish_hyd
You HINDOO really don`t understand a direct question.
There`s loads of it. Do you want me to produce accounts by his own followers as to what he did to 6-year old Ayesha? Or the maid servant? Or the Jewish women, whose men, he had killed?
Ofcourse show me proof by giving me the link of the website with such claim or wise versa coz I don`t never heard any of it. Unless you give links from Faith freedom International.
Only shows the extent of your education. Is it not that Muslims allow the son and daughter of two brothers to marry? That probably is one of the causes for your retardation.
yea it does but all has change long time. Beside how do you explain growth of human population in the first place. OO sorry...I was explaining you about Creationist point of view but most HINDOOS follow darwinism, therefore no need to explain that. Hardly you`ll find anyone marrying their cousins these day. Don`t know about india.
How do you you explain an HINDOO mother-in-law to give birth to her grand-son. How low can you get.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/insideldn/insideout/series6/wk1/film1/surrogacy1.shtml
If you can believe in a screwed up faith that is reviled all over the world, there`s no reason why I shouldn`t follow a religion that is universally recognized for its tolerance.
Tolerance....haha...that a good joke. India is Popular for religious riot. HINDOOS vs MUSLIMS, HINDOOS vs CHRISTAINS, HINDOOS vs SIKH, HINDOOS vs BUDDIST and so on...
Just name any riot and your`ll find HINDOOS involve in that fight and the coz for such riot.
Sacrificing baby girl in the hope of changing her into baby boy is not tolerance
Human Sacrificial is quite common only in hindusim
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1723910,00.html#article_continue
Hinduism enforce slavery
http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/avijit/slavery_hinduism.htm
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ramendra_nath/hindu.html
As for caste system, there`s no bigger casteists than Pakis. Wasim Akram`s wife refused to sit with Yousuf Youhana`s wife in Australia, because Youhana belonged to the lowly Choorha caste. That pretty much sums it up.
Your Mahdar education is off record. I am talking about HINDUISM & ISLAM, MUSLIMS & HINDOOS as a whole. Am I judging each and every individual?. If youhana`s wife refuse to site with wasim`s wife or vice versa, Its not MUSLIM`S problem. There are words to discribe such problem and that`s FAMILY PROBLEM. This is the first time someone gave this kind of lame example for caste system. ARE you already drunk? from piss that i mean.
If you are one of those who think cricket player are missionary to their faith, then you seriously need help, this time go to your local mahdar, he`ll get you some good Morarji Desai`s cola he loved drinking.
Sounds to me like true BS. In any case, I`d love to hear it once again. Why are you so embarrassed to repeat it once more? Is some guilt eating you from inside?
Guilt.. naa.. I never had piss in my life. Did you....?????
SO i was right you are among those mandar roaming HINDOO who pop-up with no reason and no clue of what happening. Here you can read my previous post, 297, 292, 263 etc etc I hope you know how to use ``interactindex``.
If you don`t then it located in the right side of your monitor screen. I hope you know what monitor is!!!!!
Unlike your brethren who claim so much and couldn`t answer. I won`t go unless you HINDOOS proofs your claim.
You HINDOO really don`t understand a direct question.
There`s loads of it. Do you want me to produce accounts by his own followers as to what he did to 6-year old Ayesha? Or the maid servant? Or the Jewish women, whose men, he had killed?
Ofcourse show me proof by giving me the link of the website with such claim or wise versa coz I don`t never heard any of it. Unless you give links from Faith freedom International.
Only shows the extent of your education. Is it not that Muslims allow the son and daughter of two brothers to marry? That probably is one of the causes for your retardation.
yea it does but all has change long time. Beside how do you explain growth of human population in the first place. OO sorry...I was explaining you about Creationist point of view but most HINDOOS follow darwinism, therefore no need to explain that. Hardly you`ll find anyone marrying their cousins these day. Don`t know about india.
How do you you explain an HINDOO mother-in-law to give birth to her grand-son. How low can you get.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/insideldn/insideout/series6/wk1/film1/surrogacy1.shtml
If you can believe in a screwed up faith that is reviled all over the world, there`s no reason why I shouldn`t follow a religion that is universally recognized for its tolerance.
Tolerance....haha...that a good joke. India is Popular for religious riot. HINDOOS vs MUSLIMS, HINDOOS vs CHRISTAINS, HINDOOS vs SIKH, HINDOOS vs BUDDIST and so on...
Just name any riot and your`ll find HINDOOS involve in that fight and the coz for such riot.
Sacrificing baby girl in the hope of changing her into baby boy is not tolerance
Human Sacrificial is quite common only in hindusim
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1723910,00.html#article_continue
Hinduism enforce slavery
http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/avijit/slavery_hinduism.htm
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ramendra_nath/hindu.html
As for caste system, there`s no bigger casteists than Pakis. Wasim Akram`s wife refused to sit with Yousuf Youhana`s wife in Australia, because Youhana belonged to the lowly Choorha caste. That pretty much sums it up.
Your Mahdar education is off record. I am talking about HINDUISM & ISLAM, MUSLIMS & HINDOOS as a whole. Am I judging each and every individual?. If youhana`s wife refuse to site with wasim`s wife or vice versa, Its not MUSLIM`S problem. There are words to discribe such problem and that`s FAMILY PROBLEM. This is the first time someone gave this kind of lame example for caste system. ARE you already drunk? from piss that i mean.
If you are one of those who think cricket player are missionary to their faith, then you seriously need help, this time go to your local mahdar, he`ll get you some good Morarji Desai`s cola he loved drinking.
Sounds to me like true BS. In any case, I`d love to hear it once again. Why are you so embarrassed to repeat it once more? Is some guilt eating you from inside?
Guilt.. naa.. I never had piss in my life. Did you....?????
SO i was right you are among those mandar roaming HINDOO who pop-up with no reason and no clue of what happening. Here you can read my previous post, 297, 292, 263 etc etc I hope you know how to use ``interactindex``.
If you don`t then it located in the right side of your monitor screen. I hope you know what monitor is!!!!!
Unlike your brethren who claim so much and couldn`t answer. I won`t go unless you HINDOOS proofs your claim.
#308 Posted by harish_hyd on November 14, 2006 2:47:29 am
#307 by discoverer
Any PROOF to support your claim?????
There`s loads of it. Do you want me to produce accounts by his own followers as to what he did to 6-year old Ayesha? Or the maid servant? Or the Jewish women, whose men, he had killed?
If you wanna know about why I believe in ISLAM read my previous post. Don`t be an idoit and start all over again.
Sounds to me like true BS. In any case, I`d love to hear it once again. Why are you so embarrassed to repeat it once more? Is some guilt eating you from inside?
Talking about lust for sex. I think it`s hinduism which allow brother/sister to get marry..
Only shows the extent of your education. Is it not that Muslims allow the son and daughter of two brothers to marry? That probably is one of the causes for your retardation.
Beside, my question was why do you believe in your screwed up religion not whether you believe in it?
If you can believe in a screwed up faith that is reviled all over the world, there`s no reason why I shouldn`t follow a religion that is universally recognized for its tolerance.
As for caste system, there`s no bigger casteists than Pakis. Wasim Akram`s wife refused to sit with Yousuf Youhana`s wife in Australia, because Youhana belonged to the lowly Choorha caste. That pretty much sums it up.
Any PROOF to support your claim?????
There`s loads of it. Do you want me to produce accounts by his own followers as to what he did to 6-year old Ayesha? Or the maid servant? Or the Jewish women, whose men, he had killed?
If you wanna know about why I believe in ISLAM read my previous post. Don`t be an idoit and start all over again.
Sounds to me like true BS. In any case, I`d love to hear it once again. Why are you so embarrassed to repeat it once more? Is some guilt eating you from inside?
Talking about lust for sex. I think it`s hinduism which allow brother/sister to get marry..
Only shows the extent of your education. Is it not that Muslims allow the son and daughter of two brothers to marry? That probably is one of the causes for your retardation.
Beside, my question was why do you believe in your screwed up religion not whether you believe in it?
If you can believe in a screwed up faith that is reviled all over the world, there`s no reason why I shouldn`t follow a religion that is universally recognized for its tolerance.
As for caste system, there`s no bigger casteists than Pakis. Wasim Akram`s wife refused to sit with Yousuf Youhana`s wife in Australia, because Youhana belonged to the lowly Choorha caste. That pretty much sums it up.
#307 Posted by discoverer on November 14, 2006 1:56:14 am
``Sure, I believe in Hinduism because unlike in your religion, where a 53-year old man lusted after a 6 year old girl, married her and then humped her when she was barely 9, screwed his maid servant, married his own daughter in law, at least Hindus pay the prostitutes. Got it? Now your turn. Why do you believe in a pedophile?``
Any PROOF to support your claim????? I guess not. If you wanna know about why I believe in ISLAM read my previous post. Don`t be an idoit and start all over again. Talking about lust for sex. I think it`s hinduism which allow brother/sister to get marry..
``It shows a society where it was permissible, among Brahmins at least, for the younger brother to engage in coitus with his elder brother`s wife. Mamata does not oppose Brihaspati`s desires because it is against dharma, but only because she is already pregnant by his elder brother and ``Your semen should not be wasted`` (Adi Parva, 103. 12].``
http://www.boloji.com/hinduism/100.htm
Prostitute dhrouppati
````The wise do not sanction a fourth conception even in crisis. The woman having intercourse with four men has loose morals. She having intercourse with five is a prostitute`` [Adi Parva, 123.83].``
http://www.boloji.com/hinduism/100.htm
It extract from your books. Now show me your Proof.
Beside, my question was why do you believe in your screwed up religion not whether you believe in it?. INDIAN education is showing.... and you never talked about your caste system.
Any PROOF to support your claim????? I guess not. If you wanna know about why I believe in ISLAM read my previous post. Don`t be an idoit and start all over again. Talking about lust for sex. I think it`s hinduism which allow brother/sister to get marry..
``It shows a society where it was permissible, among Brahmins at least, for the younger brother to engage in coitus with his elder brother`s wife. Mamata does not oppose Brihaspati`s desires because it is against dharma, but only because she is already pregnant by his elder brother and ``Your semen should not be wasted`` (Adi Parva, 103. 12].``
http://www.boloji.com/hinduism/100.htm
Prostitute dhrouppati
````The wise do not sanction a fourth conception even in crisis. The woman having intercourse with four men has loose morals. She having intercourse with five is a prostitute`` [Adi Parva, 123.83].``
http://www.boloji.com/hinduism/100.htm
It extract from your books. Now show me your Proof.
Beside, my question was why do you believe in your screwed up religion not whether you believe in it?. INDIAN education is showing.... and you never talked about your caste system.
#306 Posted by harish_hyd on November 13, 2006 10:34:10 pm
#304 by discoverer
I mean could you tell me why you believe in a religion which allow caste system and also allow PROSTITUTION.
Sure, I believe in Hinduism because unlike in your religion, where a 53-year old man lusted after a 6 year old girl, married her and then humped her when she was barely 9, screwed his maid servant, married his own daughter in law, at least Hindus pay the prostitutes. Got it? Now your turn. Why do you believe in a pedophile?
I mean could you tell me why you believe in a religion which allow caste system and also allow PROSTITUTION.
Sure, I believe in Hinduism because unlike in your religion, where a 53-year old man lusted after a 6 year old girl, married her and then humped her when she was barely 9, screwed his maid servant, married his own daughter in law, at least Hindus pay the prostitutes. Got it? Now your turn. Why do you believe in a pedophile?
#305 Posted by ankaboot on November 13, 2006 9:57:00 am
BLOOODYYYY..............
this will be the 305th post and still no proof from indians who blame Prophet Muhammad[P.b.u.h] teaching as pedophilia...........
Guys this disco-man is really rocking you booties..........
Just answer his question and end this discussion..............
disco-man... chill yaar.... It there genes which prevent them from TRUTH.....
no big deal.....
this will be the 305th post and still no proof from indians who blame Prophet Muhammad[P.b.u.h] teaching as pedophilia...........
Guys this disco-man is really rocking you booties..........
Just answer his question and end this discussion..............
disco-man... chill yaar.... It there genes which prevent them from TRUTH.....
no big deal.....
#304 Posted by discoverer on November 13, 2006 9:42:43 am
re:harish_hyd
``Hey disco, these are just some of the bloopers I could find in your post. Your madarssah eduction is showing - and glaringly at that. First, learn how to spell these words correctly, then we can think about arguing, OK?``
Look who we have here, another successor of HINDOO community.... you are right in correcting my spelling but my dear piss drinker, Surely you read my previous post but do you care implementing on it. Could you answer wht your previous HINDOO brethren couldn`t. I mean could you tell me why you believe in a religion which allow caste system and also allow PROSTITUTION.
Why do you believe in your HOMOSEXUAL RAM and PROSTITUE dhropatti and drink PISS and eat dead human flesh. Could you give us all your PROOF of Prophet`s Pedophilia.
Beside India still has the world’s largest number of poor people in a single country. Of its nearly 1 billion inhabitants, an estimated 350-400 million are below the poverty line, 75 per cent of them in the rural areas.
More than 40 per cent of the population is illiterate, with women, tribal and scheduled castes particularly affected.
http://indiaonestop.com/povertyindia.htm
What are you mocking about, at lease our madrassa teach some basic education. unlike India where sexual harassment is quite common
http://www.indianchild.com/sexual_harassment_india.htm
Personal suggestion, stop thinking..... HINDOOS can`t think beyond there violent religion which teach human sacrifice. Come back drinking some strong piss from your dying Gao Mataa then we can talk....OK...
``Hey disco, these are just some of the bloopers I could find in your post. Your madarssah eduction is showing - and glaringly at that. First, learn how to spell these words correctly, then we can think about arguing, OK?``
Look who we have here, another successor of HINDOO community.... you are right in correcting my spelling but my dear piss drinker, Surely you read my previous post but do you care implementing on it. Could you answer wht your previous HINDOO brethren couldn`t. I mean could you tell me why you believe in a religion which allow caste system and also allow PROSTITUTION.
Why do you believe in your HOMOSEXUAL RAM and PROSTITUE dhropatti and drink PISS and eat dead human flesh. Could you give us all your PROOF of Prophet`s Pedophilia.
Beside India still has the world’s largest number of poor people in a single country. Of its nearly 1 billion inhabitants, an estimated 350-400 million are below the poverty line, 75 per cent of them in the rural areas.
More than 40 per cent of the population is illiterate, with women, tribal and scheduled castes particularly affected.
http://indiaonestop.com/povertyindia.htm
What are you mocking about, at lease our madrassa teach some basic education. unlike India where sexual harassment is quite common
http://www.indianchild.com/sexual_harassment_india.htm
Personal suggestion, stop thinking..... HINDOOS can`t think beyond there violent religion which teach human sacrifice. Come back drinking some strong piss from your dying Gao Mataa then we can talk....OK...
#303 Posted by harish_hyd on November 13, 2006 4:33:59 am
#302 by discoverer
clearify - clarify
unemployement - unemployment
Atlease - at least
protitute - prostitute
Hey disco, these are just some of the bloopers I could find in your post. Your madarssah eduction is showing - and glaringly at that. First, learn how to spell these words correctly, then we can think about arguing, OK?
clearify - clarify
unemployement - unemployment
Atlease - at least
protitute - prostitute
Hey disco, these are just some of the bloopers I could find in your post. Your madarssah eduction is showing - and glaringly at that. First, learn how to spell these words correctly, then we can think about arguing, OK?
#302 Posted by discoverer on November 13, 2006 2:54:42 am
re:krishna_abcd
``With your command of the English language, I don`t think you are a software ``designer``. I think you are just a madrassa-educated abdul paki with camel dung for brains. :)
ladies and gentleman here we have Indian HINDOOS who like imitation? I talk about indian education system in my previous post and now you just add madrassah and posted my command again. I don`t need to clearify who i am, it`s not my fault that you can`t effort proper education. I know that unemployement rate in india due to their vast population. maybe this is the reason why we find many hindoos in this site. On the contrary, even IF i am madrassa-educated paki then it clearly means that madrassa-education is better then indian education system. Atlease we don`t pronounce ``M`` as ``YEMM``, like most HINDOOS do and this also explain why you can`t bring Proof.
I think instead of babbling incoherently, you should try to explain why your ``prophet``, with grey pubic hair at 53 years of age, had sexual lust for a 6 year old girl, and wanted to marry her.
I realised that you are not just a by-product of your stinking, cow-piss drinking society but also blind. read my previous post especially about faith freedom international. I had explained thosands of time about our Prophet but it seems that you HINDOO are just too STUPID to understand these post. or maybe you never read my post.
If your claim are true then why NOT SHOW me the truth, instead of linkin ALI SINA`s website. Beside, How can you judge other when you follow a HOMOSEXUAL RAM and protitute Dhroopatti and ofcourse a religion which allow prostitution and killing of innocent women. Do explain about your caste system what is your caste, because all hindoos have one!!!
``With your command of the English language, I don`t think you are a software ``designer``. I think you are just a madrassa-educated abdul paki with camel dung for brains. :)
ladies and gentleman here we have Indian HINDOOS who like imitation? I talk about indian education system in my previous post and now you just add madrassah and posted my command again. I don`t need to clearify who i am, it`s not my fault that you can`t effort proper education. I know that unemployement rate in india due to their vast population. maybe this is the reason why we find many hindoos in this site. On the contrary, even IF i am madrassa-educated paki then it clearly means that madrassa-education is better then indian education system. Atlease we don`t pronounce ``M`` as ``YEMM``, like most HINDOOS do and this also explain why you can`t bring Proof.
I think instead of babbling incoherently, you should try to explain why your ``prophet``, with grey pubic hair at 53 years of age, had sexual lust for a 6 year old girl, and wanted to marry her.
I realised that you are not just a by-product of your stinking, cow-piss drinking society but also blind. read my previous post especially about faith freedom international. I had explained thosands of time about our Prophet but it seems that you HINDOO are just too STUPID to understand these post. or maybe you never read my post.
If your claim are true then why NOT SHOW me the truth, instead of linkin ALI SINA`s website. Beside, How can you judge other when you follow a HOMOSEXUAL RAM and protitute Dhroopatti and ofcourse a religion which allow prostitution and killing of innocent women. Do explain about your caste system what is your caste, because all hindoos have one!!!
#301 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 12, 2006 1:02:06 pm
#297 by discoverer
With your command of the English language, I don`t think you are a software ``designer``. I think you are just a madrassa-educated abdul paki with camel dung for brains. :)
I think instead of babbling incoherently, you should try to explain why your ``prophet``, with grey pubic hair at 53 years of age, had sexual lust for a 6 year old girl, and wanted to marry her.
:))
With your command of the English language, I don`t think you are a software ``designer``. I think you are just a madrassa-educated abdul paki with camel dung for brains. :)
I think instead of babbling incoherently, you should try to explain why your ``prophet``, with grey pubic hair at 53 years of age, had sexual lust for a 6 year old girl, and wanted to marry her.
:))
#300 Posted by discoverer on November 12, 2006 11:16:56 am
re:mohar11
Typical HINDOO motto ``I would listen,intead I`ll blame you``
Logical explantion is all ready mentioned in my post, if you can understand that. Beside what`s with camel soda, we Muslims take halal food we don`t eat dead human being, and drink piss. Morarji Desai, your president booasted about drinking cow piss, here`s the link
http://www.himalmag.com/2002/november/perspective_2.htm
Beside you HINDOOS can`t talk about pedophilia... coz you fail to PROOF this. Your other half Krish_abcd tried but he failed, would you like to show us your PROOF coz through out my post I showed you many Proof, but I douth you ever read any of these.
Typical HINDOO motto ``I would listen,intead I`ll blame you``
Logical explantion is all ready mentioned in my post, if you can understand that. Beside what`s with camel soda, we Muslims take halal food we don`t eat dead human being, and drink piss. Morarji Desai, your president booasted about drinking cow piss, here`s the link
http://www.himalmag.com/2002/november/perspective_2.htm
Beside you HINDOOS can`t talk about pedophilia... coz you fail to PROOF this. Your other half Krish_abcd tried but he failed, would you like to show us your PROOF coz through out my post I showed you many Proof, but I douth you ever read any of these.
#299 Posted by mohar11 on November 12, 2006 9:55:16 am
Re: # 298 disco
Sure dude... you too enjoy your camel soda... :)
And let me know once you get some logical explanation for prophet`s pedophilia...
Sure dude... you too enjoy your camel soda... :)
And let me know once you get some logical explanation for prophet`s pedophilia...
#298 Posted by discoverer on November 12, 2006 8:55:13 am
re:mohar11
I forgot about you man, dam... take your time searching for answers and if you DO find one then please post it in my ilog. I`ll appreciate that. anyhow, enjoy your drink, the cow soda.
I forgot about you man, dam... take your time searching for answers and if you DO find one then please post it in my ilog. I`ll appreciate that. anyhow, enjoy your drink, the cow soda.
#297 Posted by discoverer on November 12, 2006 8:49:29 am
re:krishna_abcd
``What is the level of your education? What job do you do? You don`t seem very intelligent. Maybe I should stop interacting with you after this post``.
well if that make you happy then I m a software designer currectly working with Waterloo Maple Inc.. Maybe the reason you are not interacting properly is simply because of your negligence of the fact that your religion teaches falsehood which is inheret by HINDOOS by birth. You should STOP interacting unless you show me proof else I will consider all you post as a barbaric HINDOO act. let me tell you how...
Hindus living in Pakistan ARE NOT trying to convert anybody. Their problem, if any, IS WITHIN THEIR OWN SOCIETY. So Muslims should not care about Hindus` internal problems.
Do you understand this simple logic?
If muslims in india are trying to convert YOU in to there religion then HINDOOS in pakistan are trying to convert muslim into their religion. In any case both side have right to talk about there religion which ONLY ISLAM allows, HINDUISM don`t. As long as 1 HINDOOS lives in Pakistan then it is our problem too ;). In the same manner, you hindoos like to talk a lot and you are forgeting that Wahabism which started it all is also our INTERNAL matter. Meaning this article can only be discuss by muslims not by HINDOOS who don`t know anything about their religion. Do you see any logic here? I guess not, drink some piss.
If your shiv seena[HINDOO terrorist organisation] can`t exile all muslims out then what are you morning about. Being an HINDOOS living in HINDOOS country you don`t have any power over muslim, that a shame. At lease ISLAM do not allow any muslims to exile non-muslim. What rascist ideology you follow? I guess that ideology is HINDUISM.
We won`t, we Hindus are good people. Which is why Muslims have survived. Look at Spain. Forcibly converted everyone back to Christianity.
This is why I think that ultimately Muslims will be brought to heel by the whites.
OO c`mon lad, the real answer is HINDOOS are scared to provoke muslims because they know, the last time they provoke muslims, HINDOOS witness the creation of PAKISTAN. If HINDOOS mess again then who know what will happen to india. It may be possible that SIKH will stand with muslims and make Khalistan, Ghorkay will make NAGALAND, Kerala will ask for independence and so on.
Don`t modify my comment on HINDOOS surviving after 500 years of moghal rule.Talking about spain 90% of muslioms were either exiled or slaugthered and the remaining 10 % were coverted. Why don`t you HINDOOS do the same thing other then SLAUGHTERING which you do more often. Throughout HISTORY HINDOOS were depended on someone, for instance they welcomed muslims later british now who know. therefoer, its justify for you to say that you need whites help to stop us. ;))
He is a messenger of Allah BECAUSE you guys believe him when he lied about talking to Al-lah. But from his character, you cannot trust anything that comes out of his mouth. Therefore it is all lies. Therefore your ``religion`` is a big hoax.
Now what can I say, lots of books, 3rd party view on ISLAM all point out to the fact that ISLAM is legit. BECAUSE jews, charistain follow the same monotheism faith. If our reliigio is a hoax why not PROOF it.WHICH YOU CAN``T but i can PROOF that HINDUISM is a hoax.
Yes, but this imaginary Al-lah bogeyman was created by clever Mo in order to control the stupid bedouins.
Your so called claim of imaginary GOD is also believed by Christanity and JUDAISM, let me remind you how many GOD and GODESS do you HINDOOS believe, more then INDIA``S population. It stretch fom a monkey god to elephant god and from cow to pig god and so on... who know there minght be an infamous rat and dog god. You are having problem of 1 GOD concept where you guys believe in the entire zoo population excluding the human god. Can`t you see any logic over here???
do one thing tell a 5 year old kid to pray all 1246+ god. Kid`s reply will be ``wht are you nut``?
This is the reason hindoo selects there own GOD to pray for.
Okay, let`s take this one at a time.
Here`s proof about your conman being a pedophile.
Try to refute this one first. If you think it is wrong, you have to prove it, instead of simply cursing the website.
No problem, very easy.... Ali Sina, a guy who claims himself to be an indian origin and a muslims start a website claming his word to be true, is the founder of the website who`s link you posted. Guess wat... this fool is in canada & now he is hunted by catholic all over canada... his website challange muslims around the world for his claim. The real news he never post on his site is that he is challege thousand of time by various scholar both MUSLIMS and NON-Muslims for his bad interpretation of not just ISLAM but Christanity and JUDAISM and BUDDISM. More recently he was challenge by Dr. Zakir Naik for an open discussion regarding this topic. No one heard from Ali Sina since then. I guess you need a proof then here`s the proof
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Sina
http://icssa.org/alisinaface.html
Both your links are from the same site, ofcourse you are following a man wanted by candian police. That explain your Pedophine statement. You claim is not enought.
Is this the best you can do HINDOOS. Now I doth indian education system.
The Aghori ascetic who are basically hindu eat human flesh. The Aghori ascetic considers himself to be a symbol of the Lord Shiva (the last from the trinity of Brahma and Vishnu according to Hindu Mythology). says Prerna salla
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/3-16-2004-51742.asp
Yes, but none of this has anything to do with Hindu philosophy. People are free to do what they want.
Ofcourse it won`t because theses website tells you what ISLAM is. I posted these links because your claim of pedophine speech are not mentioned anywhere except ALI SINA`s [or whts his christain name again??] site. Keep in mind There links are not from people, its from organisation and famous university over the world. Those the Truth on their site.
If you are faithfreedom international`s believer then it won`t do any good because he is charge with numerous criminal activity including drug usage.I don`t think anyone like believing a wanted criminal.
Bring some valid Proof HINDOOS coz I Challenge you all. If you don`t then ladies and gentleman we have liers in chowk.com
``What is the level of your education? What job do you do? You don`t seem very intelligent. Maybe I should stop interacting with you after this post``.
well if that make you happy then I m a software designer currectly working with Waterloo Maple Inc.. Maybe the reason you are not interacting properly is simply because of your negligence of the fact that your religion teaches falsehood which is inheret by HINDOOS by birth. You should STOP interacting unless you show me proof else I will consider all you post as a barbaric HINDOO act. let me tell you how...
Hindus living in Pakistan ARE NOT trying to convert anybody. Their problem, if any, IS WITHIN THEIR OWN SOCIETY. So Muslims should not care about Hindus` internal problems.
Do you understand this simple logic?
If muslims in india are trying to convert YOU in to there religion then HINDOOS in pakistan are trying to convert muslim into their religion. In any case both side have right to talk about there religion which ONLY ISLAM allows, HINDUISM don`t. As long as 1 HINDOOS lives in Pakistan then it is our problem too ;). In the same manner, you hindoos like to talk a lot and you are forgeting that Wahabism which started it all is also our INTERNAL matter. Meaning this article can only be discuss by muslims not by HINDOOS who don`t know anything about their religion. Do you see any logic here? I guess not, drink some piss.
If your shiv seena[HINDOO terrorist organisation] can`t exile all muslims out then what are you morning about. Being an HINDOOS living in HINDOOS country you don`t have any power over muslim, that a shame. At lease ISLAM do not allow any muslims to exile non-muslim. What rascist ideology you follow? I guess that ideology is HINDUISM.
We won`t, we Hindus are good people. Which is why Muslims have survived. Look at Spain. Forcibly converted everyone back to Christianity.
This is why I think that ultimately Muslims will be brought to heel by the whites.
OO c`mon lad, the real answer is HINDOOS are scared to provoke muslims because they know, the last time they provoke muslims, HINDOOS witness the creation of PAKISTAN. If HINDOOS mess again then who know what will happen to india. It may be possible that SIKH will stand with muslims and make Khalistan, Ghorkay will make NAGALAND, Kerala will ask for independence and so on.
Don`t modify my comment on HINDOOS surviving after 500 years of moghal rule.Talking about spain 90% of muslioms were either exiled or slaugthered and the remaining 10 % were coverted. Why don`t you HINDOOS do the same thing other then SLAUGHTERING which you do more often. Throughout HISTORY HINDOOS were depended on someone, for instance they welcomed muslims later british now who know. therefoer, its justify for you to say that you need whites help to stop us. ;))
He is a messenger of Allah BECAUSE you guys believe him when he lied about talking to Al-lah. But from his character, you cannot trust anything that comes out of his mouth. Therefore it is all lies. Therefore your ``religion`` is a big hoax.
Now what can I say, lots of books, 3rd party view on ISLAM all point out to the fact that ISLAM is legit. BECAUSE jews, charistain follow the same monotheism faith. If our reliigio is a hoax why not PROOF it.WHICH YOU CAN``T but i can PROOF that HINDUISM is a hoax.
Yes, but this imaginary Al-lah bogeyman was created by clever Mo in order to control the stupid bedouins.
Your so called claim of imaginary GOD is also believed by Christanity and JUDAISM, let me remind you how many GOD and GODESS do you HINDOOS believe, more then INDIA``S population. It stretch fom a monkey god to elephant god and from cow to pig god and so on... who know there minght be an infamous rat and dog god. You are having problem of 1 GOD concept where you guys believe in the entire zoo population excluding the human god. Can`t you see any logic over here???
do one thing tell a 5 year old kid to pray all 1246+ god. Kid`s reply will be ``wht are you nut``?
This is the reason hindoo selects there own GOD to pray for.
Okay, let`s take this one at a time.
Here`s proof about your conman being a pedophile.
Try to refute this one first. If you think it is wrong, you have to prove it, instead of simply cursing the website.
No problem, very easy.... Ali Sina, a guy who claims himself to be an indian origin and a muslims start a website claming his word to be true, is the founder of the website who`s link you posted. Guess wat... this fool is in canada & now he is hunted by catholic all over canada... his website challange muslims around the world for his claim. The real news he never post on his site is that he is challege thousand of time by various scholar both MUSLIMS and NON-Muslims for his bad interpretation of not just ISLAM but Christanity and JUDAISM and BUDDISM. More recently he was challenge by Dr. Zakir Naik for an open discussion regarding this topic. No one heard from Ali Sina since then. I guess you need a proof then here`s the proof
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Sina
http://icssa.org/alisinaface.html
Both your links are from the same site, ofcourse you are following a man wanted by candian police. That explain your Pedophine statement. You claim is not enought.
Is this the best you can do HINDOOS. Now I doth indian education system.
The Aghori ascetic who are basically hindu eat human flesh. The Aghori ascetic considers himself to be a symbol of the Lord Shiva (the last from the trinity of Brahma and Vishnu according to Hindu Mythology). says Prerna salla
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/3-16-2004-51742.asp
Yes, but none of this has anything to do with Hindu philosophy. People are free to do what they want.
Ofcourse it won`t because theses website tells you what ISLAM is. I posted these links because your claim of pedophine speech are not mentioned anywhere except ALI SINA`s [or whts his christain name again??] site. Keep in mind There links are not from people, its from organisation and famous university over the world. Those the Truth on their site.
If you are faithfreedom international`s believer then it won`t do any good because he is charge with numerous criminal activity including drug usage.I don`t think anyone like believing a wanted criminal.
Bring some valid Proof HINDOOS coz I Challenge you all. If you don`t then ladies and gentleman we have liers in chowk.com
#296 Posted by KaalChakra on November 12, 2006 8:43:22 am
teshah
Apologies for the delay in responding ... These are germinal thoughts, although they seem very clear to me. In a few more hours I should be able to sit down and capture some of these thoughts in words. Thanks for your patience. Regards.
Apologies for the delay in responding ... These are germinal thoughts, although they seem very clear to me. In a few more hours I should be able to sit down and capture some of these thoughts in words. Thanks for your patience. Regards.
#295 Posted by teshah on November 11, 2006 8:02:18 pm
Re: # 291
kaal
Thank you for your kind interact, but excuse me I could not make out what you wanted to convey by your second para, reproduced hereunder:
``Personally, I believe in truth and in this stuff less and less. Truth and knowledge are overrated. Faith and love (Islam and Chstianity, as you correctly surmised) can very quickly achieve wonders that no amount of truth/knowledge/understanding by itself can ever hope for.``
What did you mean by the wonders achieved by Islam and Christianity so quickly by faith and love, without bothering about truth, knowledge and understanding?
kaal
Thank you for your kind interact, but excuse me I could not make out what you wanted to convey by your second para, reproduced hereunder:
``Personally, I believe in truth and in this stuff less and less. Truth and knowledge are overrated. Faith and love (Islam and Chstianity, as you correctly surmised) can very quickly achieve wonders that no amount of truth/knowledge/understanding by itself can ever hope for.``
What did you mean by the wonders achieved by Islam and Christianity so quickly by faith and love, without bothering about truth, knowledge and understanding?
#294 Posted by krishna_abcd on November 11, 2006 11:13:33 am
#263 by discoverer
[In that case your caste system is our problem too. because 25 % Hindoo make up pakistans population. And unlike your religion teaching. Islam allow HINDOOS to work in a muslim country but with some condition as mentioned above.]
What is the level of your education? What job do you do? You don`t seem very intelligent. Maybe I should stop interacting with you after this post.
Let me try for the last time.
Hindus living in Pakistan ARE NOT trying to convert anybody. Their problem, if any, IS WITHIN THEIR OWN SOCIETY. So Muslims should not care about Hindus` internal problems.
Do you understand this simple logic?
[If your shiv seena do relly have problem with muslims then exile them all. yea thats a good suggestion, start exiling all the muslims from your country.]
I wish we could.
[But Plese don`t sacrifice them to Kali, c`mon they are human too. ]
We won`t, we Hindus are good people. Which is why Muslims have survived. Look at Spain. Forcibly converted everyone back to Christianity.
This is why I think that ultimately Muslims will be brought to heel by the whites.
[In that case we believe that dhroppati was rape by five man,and your RAM was homosexual, is it true?]
No. Not true.
[We believe in Prophet who came before Muhammad[P.B.U.H] too.]
If you believe the message THEY brought, you should be a Jew or a Christian.
[In this case, Muhammad[P.B.U.H.} is just a messanger of Allah. He justified his point by saying that there is 1 god only.]
He is a messenger of Allah BECAUSE you guys believe him when he lied about talking to Al-lah. But from his character, you cannot trust anything that comes out of his mouth. Therefore it is all lies. Therefore your ``religion`` is a big hoax.
[Human made god can`t protect you because they depend on you. Same case with hindu. ]
But we don`t need protection. :)
[You are mistaking what believes are really. Beliving in Muhammad is a wrong concept but Believing in his speech is a right concept,....]
You choose to believe a pedophile`s speech. That`s your problem. :)
[this is wht we call Hadith. We BELIEVE in ALLAH and we BELIEVE in his MESSENGER who taught us what ALLAH taught them.]
Yes, but this imaginary Al-lah bogeyman was created by clever Mo in order to control the stupid bedouins.
[Its not unusual to talk about what BELIEVE are. A book written by AL-JUMI, persian philosopher is all about wht believe really are and how we make mistake in its meaning. Try searching for any of his book in INDIA and try reading it. ]
If you believe based on FAITH, then you should not argue. People need FAITH because they do not have a logical proof. If they had logical proof, they would not need FAITH. So if you don`t have any logical proof, then stop arguing, and just say that it is your FAITH.
[If that`s true then show us all the proof, please quote the name of the book and its chapter, one by one. Throughout this consversation you talked baout horis, and there history. lets see your proof them.]
Okay, let`s take this one at a time.
Here`s proof about your conman being a pedophile.
Try to refute this one first. If you think it is wrong, you have to prove it, instead of simply cursing the website.
[I start by posting link at the bottom of the page, keep in mind these research papers are not from muslim or Hindu point of view but from 3rd party research group. ]
Check out this link. Maybe this will open your eyes. But probably not.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/faq.htm
[Don`t tell me now you want me to talk about how Meat are scientifically proven to be good for human body.]
Yes, but look at your diet. It is ONLY meat. You guys have meat as main dish with some meat on the side, and then some more meat for dessert. Ugh!
[okay leave that alone, are you aware of your religion, The Aghori ascetic who are basically hindu eat human flesh. The Aghori ascetic considers himself to be a symbol of the Lord Shiva (the last from the trinity of Brahma and Vishnu according to Hindu Mythology). says Prerna salla
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/3-16-2004-51742.asp
You HINDOOS don`t even know what your religion is.... I am telling you from my previous post that its teaching is rascism nothing else. Onsecond though, go to your local Pandit and ask him these question that I ask you, He will do 2 things to you.
1. Put you for human sacrificial for kali ofcourse
2. He will consider you an evil spirit or son of devil[ravan]
and before I forget, he may give you some more piss to drink as a medicine. After drinking that piss come back again.
Links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
http://www.religioustolerance.org/islam.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/islam/islamsbook.html
http://cco.cambridge.org/extract?id=ccol0521806038_CCOL0521806038A006
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10424a.htm
http://www.carm.org/islam.htm
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/indiv/mideast/cuvlm/Islam.html
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/index.htm and so on.... ]
Yes, but none of this has anything to do with Hindu philosophy. People are free to do what they want.
[none of the site describe you discribtion of Prophet Muhammad or these non-muslim are lying as well. I want to see you proof.]
See the links I gave you.
[In that case your caste system is our problem too. because 25 % Hindoo make up pakistans population. And unlike your religion teaching. Islam allow HINDOOS to work in a muslim country but with some condition as mentioned above.]
What is the level of your education? What job do you do? You don`t seem very intelligent. Maybe I should stop interacting with you after this post.
Let me try for the last time.
Hindus living in Pakistan ARE NOT trying to convert anybody. Their problem, if any, IS WITHIN THEIR OWN SOCIETY. So Muslims should not care about Hindus` internal problems.
Do you understand this simple logic?
[If your shiv seena do relly have problem with muslims then exile them all. yea thats a good suggestion, start exiling all the muslims from your country.]
I wish we could.
[But Plese don`t sacrifice them to Kali, c`mon they are human too. ]
We won`t, we Hindus are good people. Which is why Muslims have survived. Look at Spain. Forcibly converted everyone back to Christianity.
This is why I think that ultimately Muslims will be brought to heel by the whites.
[In that case we believe that dhroppati was rape by five man,and your RAM was homosexual, is it true?]
No. Not true.
[We believe in Prophet who came before Muhammad[P.B.U.H] too.]
If you believe the message THEY brought, you should be a Jew or a Christian.
[In this case, Muhammad[P.B.U.H.} is just a messanger of Allah. He justified his point by saying that there is 1 god only.]
He is a messenger of Allah BECAUSE you guys believe him when he lied about talking to Al-lah. But from his character, you cannot trust anything that comes out of his mouth. Therefore it is all lies. Therefore your ``religion`` is a big hoax.
[Human made god can`t protect you because they depend on you. Same case with hindu. ]
But we don`t need protection. :)
[You are mistaking what believes are really. Beliving in Muhammad is a wrong concept but Believing in his speech is a right concept,....]
You choose to believe a pedophile`s speech. That`s your problem. :)
[this is wht we call Hadith. We BELIEVE in ALLAH and we BELIEVE in his MESSENGER who taught us what ALLAH taught them.]
Yes, but this imaginary Al-lah bogeyman was created by clever Mo in order to control the stupid bedouins.
[Its not unusual to talk about what BELIEVE are. A book written by AL-JUMI, persian philosopher is all about wht believe really are and how we make mistake in its meaning. Try searching for any of his book in INDIA and try reading it. ]
If you believe based on FAITH, then you should not argue. People need FAITH because they do not have a logical proof. If they had logical proof, they would not need FAITH. So if you don`t have any logical proof, then stop arguing, and just say that it is your FAITH.
[If that`s true then show us all the proof, please quote the name of the book and its chapter, one by one. Throughout this consversation you talked baout horis, and there history. lets see your proof them.]
Okay, let`s take this one at a time.
Here`s proof about your conman being a pedophile.
Try to refute this one first. If you think it is wrong, you have to prove it, instead of simply cursing the website.
[I start by posting link at the bottom of the page, keep in mind these research papers are not from muslim or Hindu point of view but from 3rd party research group. ]
Check out this link. Maybe this will open your eyes. But probably not.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/faq.htm
[Don`t tell me now you want me to talk about how Meat are scientifically proven to be good for human body.]
Yes, but look at your diet. It is ONLY meat. You guys have meat as main dish with some meat on the side, and then some more meat for dessert. Ugh!
[okay leave that alone, are you aware of your religion, The Aghori ascetic who are basically hindu eat human flesh. The Aghori ascetic considers himself to be a symbol of the Lord Shiva (the last from the trinity of Brahma and Vishnu according to Hindu Mythology). says Prerna salla
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/3-16-2004-51742.asp
You HINDOOS don`t even know what your religion is.... I am telling you from my previous post that its teaching is rascism nothing else. Onsecond though, go to your local Pandit and ask him these question that I ask you, He will do 2 things to you.
1. Put you for human sacrificial for kali ofcourse
2. He will consider you an evil spirit or son of devil[ravan]
and before I forget, he may give you some more piss to drink as a medicine. After drinking that piss come back again.
Links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
http://www.religioustolerance.org/islam.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/islam/islamsbook.html
http://cco.cambridge.org/extract?id=ccol0521806038_CCOL0521806038A006
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10424a.htm
http://www.carm.org/islam.htm
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/indiv/mideast/cuvlm/Islam.html
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/index.htm and so on.... ]
Yes, but none of this has anything to do with Hindu philosophy. People are free to do what they want.
[none of the site describe you discribtion of Prophet Muhammad or these non-muslim are lying as well. I want to see you proof.]
See the links I gave you.
#293 Posted by mohar11 on November 11, 2006 9:16:48 am
Re: # 292 disco mian
I saw your post - yet another rambling long narrative with no focus or point... I will respond when I have some time... until then, don`t get your p@nties in knots... :)
I saw your post - yet another rambling long narrative with no focus or point... I will respond when I have some time... until then, don`t get your p@nties in knots... :)
#292 Posted by discoverer on November 11, 2006 3:54:11 am
Where are krishna_abcd and mohar11????
I ask them a simple question, and now they ran away to get some more urine to digest my previous post. This clearly suggest that HINOOS or most HINDOOS in chowk.com have no idea of what they speak. They simply bull-shit a lot.
I ask them a simple question, and now they ran away to get some more urine to digest my previous post. This clearly suggest that HINOOS or most HINDOOS in chowk.com have no idea of what they speak. They simply bull-shit a lot.