The Massacre at Bajaur

#435 by Mantolives

[You seriously ought to travel on Pakistani roads... the Pakistan`s decade old motorway for example is not a two laner like this pathetic specimen you are putting up below as a great Indian achievement...

Forget the Motorway (you cannot even compare ....) here are pictures of normal city roads in Karachi... and these were built more than 20 years ago... ]


Yasser my dear boy,

In the haste to post your road pictures you have forgotten some relevant facts:

1) The money for building those roads was obtained by Pakiland by begging from the bedouins and the goras - by licking bedouin and gora a$$es - whereas we paid for our own roads.

2) You guys financed your road system by mortgaging your behinds to the USA, and your behind is being abused by the goras on a regular basis - NOBODY would DARE to bomb Indian citizens on Indian soil.

3) If those pictures are 20 years old, why has the City of Karachi webiste not updated the photos with the latest ones?

4) The photos you posted are only of Karachi - India`s GQ and EWNS network is like that everywhere. We have six lane expressways running through the countrysides.

5) India`s GQ and EWNS road network is MANY TIMES the size of your pathetic Paki road network.

Here are some photos:


(Much better than your ill-gotten gains obtained through prostituting yourselves - no?)

:)

Indians top foreign student enrollment in US

Seema Hakhu Kachru in Houston | November 13, 2006 11:09 IST

Despite a 5 per cent overall drop, India continues to be the top place of origin of international students coming to the United States for higher studies for the fifth year in a row.

According to the latest `Open Doors 2006 International Students in the United States` report released on Monday, India sent a total of 76,503 students to US to study in 2005-2006, a decrease of 5 per cent from the previous year (80,466), followed by China, Republic of Korea, Japan and Canada.

Students from the leading four places of origin -- India, China, Korea and Japan -- comprise 42 per cent of all international students enrolled in US higher education.

Out of this total, Indian students accounted for 13.5 per cent of all foreign students, followed closely by China (11.5 per cent) and Korea (10.4 per cent).

As for total international student enrollment (564,766), the number of international students studying in the US has remained steady, within a fraction of a per cent of the previous year`s totals (565,039).

A new analysis included in Open Doors for the first time shows colleges and universities reporting an 8 per cent increase in new enrollments for 2005-06.

Educating international students is a $13.5 billion industry for the nation`s 4,000 colleges and universities, and in many science and engineering departments a majority of graduate students are foreign.

The report indicates that 52 per cent of US campuses reported increases in new enrollments for fall 2006, and only
20 per cent reported declines, while 28 per cent reported no change.

In order to maintain and ensure steady enrollment 58 per cent of all responding institutions have taken various steps like new international programmes or collaborations, followed by new staff or additional staff time devoted to international recruitment, new funding for international recruitment trips and new funding for marketing and promotion of programmes.

Institutions that have devoted more resources for international student recruitment trips seem to have concentrated mainly on Asia, with China, Korea, Japan and India as most popular recruitment destinations.(What`s this? No Pakistan?)

According to Allan E Goodman, president and CEO of the Institute of International Education, ``America`s colleges and universities have begun to see positive results from their proactive efforts to recruit international students and make them feel welcome on campus. With several thousand campuses able to host international students, the US has huge untapped capacity to meet the growing worldwide demand for higher education.``

For the fifth consecutive year, the University of Southern California remains the US campus with the largest international student enrollment, with 6,881 international students.

Columbia University moved up from fourth to second place with 5,575 international students.

The 2005-06 top five host institutions -- all perennially popular destinations for international students -- are rounded out by Purdue University (moving up to third place from sixth), New York University, and the University of Texas at Austin.

#457 by behram1 on November 13, 2006 7:48am PT

Still waiting for you to put some names out there...some odl/new economy companies run by pakistanis...

waiting waiting waiting....

#437 by Mantolives on November 13, 2006 0:02am PT


The reason why GDP/Capita nominal is more accurate than GDP PPP is the issue of under-reporting of inflation.


What about Pakistan`s over-reporting of it`s GDP..or under-reporting of it`s poverty?

People from hindoo land have this disease of not following the context of the debate. They were the ones who claimed that engineers from Paki Land were useless, etc. Now that it has been proven without a shadow of doubt that engineers from the Land of the Pure are working to improve the lot of the societies that we live, the hindoos are trying to change the debate to the quantity of engineers.

Well, idiots, would have no boundary. The fools from India, must first decide what they want to argue about. Here in my city, as I have suggested amny times before, there is no engineering business by people from the hindoo land. Heck, in our state there is no professional engineering business by people from the hindoo land.

And thank God for that, if there were, these people would give a bad name to the rest of us from South Asia.

VRV!

(Please don`t bite off my head. If it helps, my views are naturally much closer to yours than yasser`s on this :))

You mentioned Wali Khan`s book in close vicinity to your claim that Jinnah did not save anybody`s life. That could mislead readers into assuming that your assertion was actually based on specific facts or opinion presented in Wali Khan`s book...

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Based only on what you and Yasser have presented/argued here: it could be that Jinnah did try to stop the riots/violence in Pakistan (as any administrator worth his or her salt would do -- unlike Modi), but did not get ``down and dirty`` in saving Hindus (unlike Gandhi).

Lord Krishna and Arjun:

I have no idea what home and garden services is. This terminology must have been created by some hindoo bureaucrat sitting in those government jobs as a furniture, uh!

Thanks for providing the best marketing that money can buy. At least 10,000 interacts of this chowks would know the greatness of this engineer from Pakistan.

But, again, back to the main argument. Pakistan does have many qualified engineers in the old economy in private enterprise, unlike people from hindoooo land who are stuck either in academia (without developing any worthwhile engineering formulas) or stuck in the government and city jobs (where they produce more of the same paper work) as some good babujee.

And no wonder the indoor air quality of these buildings where hindoo bureaucrats reside make everybody else sick. Not too long ago, one bureaucrat told me that the indians bring all those foul smelling food into the building that makes the indoor air quality issue much worse. Of course, I knew better. It was not the indian food, but it was the hindoos themselves that make IAQ a major problem.

Respectfully submitted,

Manto, the hindooland picture shows shows no people, whereas yours at least shows some clean streets of Pakistan. What happened to the hindoos of the squatter land? uh! The crummy ones took refuge in Dubai, I suppose.

Well, at least amongst muslims these hindoos will learn some insaaniyat.

New India with no people on the street must be a very nice place to live indeed.
Where did all those crummy looking hindutva go? eh!
Begging in the middle east. O! They must first get their degree in the real engineering. All those bogus certificate from the code coolie college does not cut it any more.

Re: # 449 & 451,

Mr. Majumdar and Mr. Hamdani,

I saw the link b4 and I saw it today. What Yasser gave as list must be from www. Indias.com.

The IMF site clearly tells this: (on the top-right corner of the table) ``Shaded cells indicate IMF staff estimates``. SO THESE FIGURES ARE NOT ACTUALS BUT ESTIMATES OF THE IMF STAFF.

Whereas the World Bank link I gave the list of ACTUALS and they are RANKED.

Yasser,

I didnt not claim that Wali Khan`s book said such and such things. I recounted the name of the book that read like `` Facts are Sacred``. Pl dont put words in my mouth.

THE FACT HOWEVER REMAINS THAT JINNAH DIDNT SAVE ANYBODY IN KARACHI OR FOR THAT MATTER ANYWHERE IN INDIA OR PAKISTAN THEN OR EVER. WHATEVER HE DID AS A POLITICIAN CONTRIBUTED TO UNTOLD BLOODSHED IN INDIA.

Just for the record...


The ranked list
http://www.indias.com/wiki-List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita


The IMF Data
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2006/02/data/weorept.aspx?sy=2005&ey=2005&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=%2C&br=1&c=512%2C446%2C914%2C666%2C612%2C668%2C614%2C672%2C311%2C946%2C213%2C137%2C911%2C962%2C193%2C674%2C122%2C676%2C912%2C548%2C313%2C556%2C419%2C678%2C513%2C181%2C316%2C682%2C913%2C684%2C124%2C273%2C339%2C921%2C638%2C948%2C514%2C686%2C218%2C688%2C963%2C518%2C616%2C728%2C223%2C558%2C516%2C138%2C918%2C353%2C748%2C196%2C618%2C278%2C522%2C692%2C622%2C694%2C156%2C142%2C624%2C449%2C626%2C564%2C628%2C283%2C228%2C853%2C924%2C288%2C233%2C293%2C632%2C566%2C636%2C964%2C634%2C182%2C238%2C453%2C662%2C968%2C960%2C922%2C423%2C714%2C935%2C862%2C128%2C716%2C611%2C456%2C321%2C722%2C243%2C965%2C248%2C718%2C469%2C724%2C253%2C576%2C642%2C936%2C643%2C961%2C939%2C813%2C644%2C199%2C819%2C184%2C172%2C524%2C132%2C361%2C646%2C362%2C648%2C364%2C915%2C732%2C134%2C366%2C652%2C734%2C174%2C144%2C328%2C146%2C258%2C463%2C656%2C528%2C654%2C923%2C336%2C738%2C263%2C578%2C268%2C537%2C532%2C742%2C944%2C866%2C176%2C369%2C534%2C744%2C536%2C186%2C429%2C925%2C178%2C746%2C436%2C926%2C136%2C466%2C343%2C112%2C158%2C111%2C439%2C298%2C916%2C927%2C664%2C846%2C826%2C299%2C542%2C582%2C443%2C474%2C917%2C754%2C544%2C698%2C941&s=NGDPDPC&grp=0&a=&pr1.x=49&pr1.y=6#cs123


... mind you the commas represent decimals here... you may see Pakistani numbers and Indian numbers...


It is quite clear what the GDP/Capita numbers are both countries. If VRV or any other gentleman wishes to delude himself... be my guest.

Re: # 446

Dear VRV,

Vis a vis the book... You however made a specific claim (that I was lying and that Jinnah had no contribution to ending the riots in karachi) and then generally threw the book`s name in there ... this was on the other board. All I have asked is to produce exactly where Wali Khan disputed this. You failed to. Untill you do so, in my opinion you will remain a liar.

As far as the IMF figures are concerned... Majumdar has confirmed the IMF data. So please stop this self delusion. You did this earlier as well and made an utter fool out of yourself.

``There`s a perception in Indian subcontinent that good buildings and good roads & flyovers constitute development. DAMN DIMWITS BELIEVE SUCH CRITERIA. Development is something else.``

Yes... fudging figures is what development is all about in India. I didn`t post the pictures of the infrastructure first... KrishnaABCD did. I just put him in his place.. thats all.

VRV,

The stats you want is there on the IMF website.

Regards

Anil,

(I had quoted my friend syaing 5,000 engineers per year, about 18 mos. ago.)

I think Behram sahib was referring to the production of sugarcane in Pakistan.


( In this guys and my time, University of Delhi was producing only 250 engineers per year. )

I my year, DU (DCE + DIT) graduated around 450 engineers.

(The guy goes ballistic and starts calling ``Hindooland`` whatever... , even without a reality check. )

Horrible Hindoo is just a term of endearment.

Regards

Anil,

Myself from 1994 batch.

Regards

Re: # 428

Yasser,

We didnt get the link of the IMF that gave the list where ur Japan (i.e Pakistan) is reanked ahead of India.

Pl give the link of IMF. We cant take a site of www.indias.com as authoritative.

Facts are Sacred book by Wali Khan is a must read for all here. My name is not Mr. Hamdani to lie everytime I open these boards. The patent rights and sole proprietorship for LIES belongs to you and YOU only.

There`s a perception in Indian subcontinent that good buildings and good roads & flyovers constitute development. DAMN DIMWITS BELIEVE SUCH CRITERIA. Development is something else.

Anil,

>>>Your testasterone in a rush probably.....>>>

Sorry Sir! He`s a neuter gender. Pl spare him of that previlege. ;)