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The Massacre at Bajaur

S F Hasnat November 5, 2006

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#459 Posted by arjun2 on November 13, 2006 8:00:23 am
#457 by behram1 on November 13, 2006 7:48am PT

Still waiting for you to put some names out there...some odl/new economy companies run by pakistanis...

waiting waiting waiting....
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#458 Posted by arjun2 on November 13, 2006 7:57:24 am
#437 by Mantolives on November 13, 2006 0:02am PT


The reason why GDP/Capita nominal is more accurate than GDP PPP is the issue of under-reporting of inflation.


What about Pakistan`s over-reporting of it`s GDP..or under-reporting of it`s poverty?
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#457 Posted by Behram1 on November 13, 2006 7:48:00 am

People from hindoo land have this disease of not following the context of the debate. They were the ones who claimed that engineers from Paki Land were useless, etc. Now that it has been proven without a shadow of doubt that engineers from the Land of the Pure are working to improve the lot of the societies that we live, the hindoos are trying to change the debate to the quantity of engineers.

Well, idiots, would have no boundary. The fools from India, must first decide what they want to argue about. Here in my city, as I have suggested amny times before, there is no engineering business by people from the hindoo land. Heck, in our state there is no professional engineering business by people from the hindoo land.

And thank God for that, if there were, these people would give a bad name to the rest of us from South Asia.
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#456 Posted by KaalChakra on November 13, 2006 7:38:31 am
VRV!

(Please don`t bite off my head. If it helps, my views are naturally much closer to yours than yasser`s on this :))

You mentioned Wali Khan`s book in close vicinity to your claim that Jinnah did not save anybody`s life. That could mislead readers into assuming that your assertion was actually based on specific facts or opinion presented in Wali Khan`s book...



Based only on what you and Yasser have presented/argued here: it could be that Jinnah did try to stop the riots/violence in Pakistan (as any administrator worth his or her salt would do -- unlike Modi), but did not get ``down and dirty`` in saving Hindus (unlike Gandhi).
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#455 Posted by Behram1 on November 13, 2006 7:37:44 am
Lord Krishna and Arjun:

I have no idea what home and garden services is. This terminology must have been created by some hindoo bureaucrat sitting in those government jobs as a furniture, uh!

Thanks for providing the best marketing that money can buy. At least 10,000 interacts of this chowks would know the greatness of this engineer from Pakistan.

But, again, back to the main argument. Pakistan does have many qualified engineers in the old economy in private enterprise, unlike people from hindoooo land who are stuck either in academia (without developing any worthwhile engineering formulas) or stuck in the government and city jobs (where they produce more of the same paper work) as some good babujee.

And no wonder the indoor air quality of these buildings where hindoo bureaucrats reside make everybody else sick. Not too long ago, one bureaucrat told me that the indians bring all those foul smelling food into the building that makes the indoor air quality issue much worse. Of course, I knew better. It was not the indian food, but it was the hindoos themselves that make IAQ a major problem.

Respectfully submitted,
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#454 Posted by Behram1 on November 13, 2006 7:22:09 am

Manto, the hindooland picture shows shows no people, whereas yours at least shows some clean streets of Pakistan. What happened to the hindoos of the squatter land? uh! The crummy ones took refuge in Dubai, I suppose.

Well, at least amongst muslims these hindoos will learn some insaaniyat.



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#453 Posted by Behram1 on November 13, 2006 7:15:55 am

New India with no people on the street must be a very nice place to live indeed.
Where did all those crummy looking hindutva go? eh!
Begging in the middle east. O! They must first get their degree in the real engineering. All those bogus certificate from the code coolie college does not cut it any more.
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#451 Posted by MantoLives on November 13, 2006 6:08:01 am
Just for the record...


The ranked list
http://www.indias.com/wiki-List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita


The IMF Data
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2006/02/data/weorept.aspx?sy=2005&ey=2005&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=%2C&br=1&c=512%2C446%2C914%2C666%2C612%2C668%2C614%2C672%2C311%2C946%2C213%2C137%2C911%2C962%2C193%2C674%2C122%2C676%2C912%2C548%2C313%2C556%2C419%2C678%2C513%2C181%2C316%2C682%2C913%2C684%2C124%2C273%2C339%2C921%2C638%2C948%2C514%2C686%2C218%2C688%2C963%2C518%2C616%2C728%2C223%2C558%2C516%2C138%2C918%2C353%2C748%2C196%2C618%2C278%2C522%2C692%2C622%2C694%2C156%2C142%2C624%2C449%2C626%2C564%2C628%2C283%2C228%2C853%2C924%2C288%2C233%2C293%2C632%2C566%2C636%2C964%2C634%2C182%2C238%2C453%2C662%2C968%2C960%2C922%2C423%2C714%2C935%2C862%2C128%2C716%2C611%2C456%2C321%2C722%2C243%2C965%2C248%2C718%2C469%2C724%2C253%2C576%2C642%2C936%2C643%2C961%2C939%2C813%2C644%2C199%2C819%2C184%2C172%2C524%2C132%2C361%2C646%2C362%2C648%2C364%2C915%2C732%2C134%2C366%2C652%2C734%2C174%2C144%2C328%2C146%2C258%2C463%2C656%2C528%2C654%2C923%2C336%2C738%2C263%2C578%2C268%2C537%2C532%2C742%2C944%2C866%2C176%2C369%2C534%2C744%2C536%2C186%2C429%2C925%2C178%2C746%2C436%2C926%2C136%2C466%2C343%2C112%2C158%2C111%2C439%2C298%2C916%2C927%2C664%2C846%2C826%2C299%2C542%2C582%2C443%2C474%2C917%2C754%2C544%2C698%2C941&s=NGDPDPC&grp=0&a=&pr1.x=49&pr1.y=6#cs123


... mind you the commas represent decimals here... you may see Pakistani numbers and Indian numbers...


It is quite clear what the GDP/Capita numbers are both countries. If VRV or any other gentleman wishes to delude himself... be my guest.
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#452 Posted by VRV on November 13, 2006 6:28:59 am
Re: # 449 & 451,

Mr. Majumdar and Mr. Hamdani,

I saw the link b4 and I saw it today. What Yasser gave as list must be from www. Indias.com.

The IMF site clearly tells this: (on the top-right corner of the table) ``Shaded cells indicate IMF staff estimates``. SO THESE FIGURES ARE NOT ACTUALS BUT ESTIMATES OF THE IMF STAFF.

Whereas the World Bank link I gave the list of ACTUALS and they are RANKED.

Yasser,

I didnt not claim that Wali Khan`s book said such and such things. I recounted the name of the book that read like `` Facts are Sacred``. Pl dont put words in my mouth.

THE FACT HOWEVER REMAINS THAT JINNAH DIDNT SAVE ANYBODY IN KARACHI OR FOR THAT MATTER ANYWHERE IN INDIA OR PAKISTAN THEN OR EVER. WHATEVER HE DID AS A POLITICIAN CONTRIBUTED TO UNTOLD BLOODSHED IN INDIA.



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#449 Posted by majumdar on November 13, 2006 5:44:06 am
VRV,

The stats you want is there on the IMF website.

Regards
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#448 Posted by majumdar on November 13, 2006 5:43:18 am
Anil,

(I had quoted my friend syaing 5,000 engineers per year, about 18 mos. ago.)

I think Behram sahib was referring to the production of sugarcane in Pakistan.


( In this guys and my time, University of Delhi was producing only 250 engineers per year. )

I my year, DU (DCE + DIT) graduated around 450 engineers.

(The guy goes ballistic and starts calling ``Hindooland`` whatever... , even without a reality check. )

Horrible Hindoo is just a term of endearment.

Regards
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#447 Posted by majumdar on November 13, 2006 5:39:18 am
Anil,

Myself from 1994 batch.

Regards
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#464 Posted by anil on November 13, 2006 11:32:58 am
Re: # 447

``Anil, Myself from 1994 batch. Regards``

Welcome, now kick some IIT butts. In my days DCE had better performance record than IITs. More jobs went to DCE graduates than IIT graduates in Engineering Services. Repeat this performance. The current principal of DCE, was at Univ. of Birmingham at the same time as I was there.

Anil
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#441 Posted by majumdar on November 13, 2006 2:01:42 am
Anil are you from DCE by any chance.

Regards
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#444 Posted by anil on November 13, 2006 5:15:33 am
Re: # 441

Majumdar:

Yes, I am from DCE, 1970.

Anil
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#440 Posted by devkant on November 13, 2006 1:45:15 am
so basically according to yASSer...a person earning USD 700 per year in india is at the same as a person earning USD 700 per year in USA.

and another gem from yASSer.....``every Indian who comes to Pakistan thinks Pakistan is Dubai or something.``

bhai yASSer....if the link on 309 does not open, then get your pc checked....or may be your country has blocked that sight because it proves your claim of indian scientists not being in fermilabs hollow.

regarding the engineers, you have yet not produced a single credible name of any pakistani who is in the top 3 positions of major US companies. i have given up hope of you producing any credible names because none exist.

now since chowk does not pay for my bills, my wife`s shopping, my child`s expenses and my booze and partying expenses, i will get back to work. you can sit here and keep up the good work like a good chowk employee.

rgds,

devkant.


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