The Massacre at Bajaur

Ahmed Madani bhai,

I think u have been long enough on chowk to realise that all posts, irrespective of the topic, end up with a Indo-Pak/Hindu-Muslim/MAJ (pbuh)-MKG slugfest.

Regards

for beharam.....look, your pakis are going places!!!!!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pakistani_church_workers_arrested/articleshow/459980.cms

Pakistanis posing as church workers held
[ 16 Nov, 2006 1048hrs ISTAP ]

WASHINGTON: Dozens of Pakistani immigrants who came to the United States posing as religious workers were arrested as Homeland Security agents tried to close a commonly exploited avenue for aliens to get into the country.

Immigrants who were supposed to be teaching or conducting religious ceremonies were arrested across the East Coast on Wednesday. Many of those arrested worked as attendants in gasoline stations, taxi drivers, landscapers and factory workers.

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have been scrutinising the religious worker visa programme, which a 2005 review found was rife with problems. Homeland Security officials found fraud in one out of every three religious visas they reviewed.

Churches that sponsored the workers turned out not to exist, workers could not be found and addresses could not be verified, the study said. In one incident, the address on the visa application was found to have been used by a terrorist suspect.

Most of the 33 people arrested Wednesday were from Pakistan. Authorities said there was no indication of a terrorist threat. US Immigration and Customs Enforcement said the aliens paid large cash fees to get people or organisations to sponsor them for visas.

Arrests were made in eight states, mostly along the Eastern Seaboard and in the Washington.

In June, Washington state pastor Dong Wan Park was convicted of helping South Korean nationals file fraudulent religious visa applications. None of the applicants was ever employed at the church.

#565 by behram-baba

Here`s what cleaning septic tanks does to your brain:

[You constantly bring in religion etc. which has nothing to do with the present discussion.]

and then:

[I can understand that being a hindoo, you may be autistic (or a bipolar?), and hence stuck in your diatribe. ]

Camel-dung in the brain, that`s what it is.


[But, once again, the point is not lost to most people who chose to come to this site, yet they chose not to interact. That is right because I am making valid arguments that Pakistan has been producing good quality engineers, and most of them are in their own businesses. ]

This is true. Cleaning septic tanks, digging ditches. Nowadays the Mexican immigrants are subcontracting their work to the Moooslums. Behram-baba is getting a lot of that work - he is a PE, no less! :)



[Now that logic is kinda twisted. Only numerical minorities may go into their own business (true for the Jews), and muslims do have numerical advantage.]

Not in the USA, numbnuts. We are talking about the USA, remember?



[Actually, for muslims to be in their own business is because their holy prophet was in his own business, and as such it is considered as sunnat-e-rasool, which a hindoo, who is hateful like yourself will chose to not understand. ]

No. He was doing Ghulami under his wife. He was so afraid of his wife that he did not dare marry anyone while she was alive, but chose to lead the life of a useless drone, living off of his wife.

Reminds you of Hitler who used to sleep on Park benches until he got into politics.

Re: # 570

Mr. Arjun, Beharam, Dev, Manto and all others what this dirty game going on. You are going crazy and and speaking and throwing bad words all around making few decent people dare to read stuff here.
Do you know what was original topic?
Let me remind you

The Massacre at Bajaur
S. Farooq Hasnat
November 5, 2006

Do you retards know even by any chance it has any connection with any connection with ``Massacre at Bajaur``. Be honest. It would have been better you all morons just out of respect for author put combined giant intelluct for finding if it was usa air atomatic machine sending missiles or Pakistani Hawai Jahaj carried out surgical attacks. I have come to conclusion there should be top official cutting to size irrelevant comments out of respect for author. More time goes and comments become more unrelated and after 35 comments stupidy goes expoentially to reach heavens. It appears as a mad zoo and different monkeys fighting. Profanity, stupidity is acceptable if its subtle and interesting. But Manto starts even at site of Gandhi word his Gandhiphobis and Jinnaholic bouts of euphoria and all world goes to hell. He puts same stuff regugarated as new fresh stuff and feels it smells sweet. And what is point of same old stale stuff stuffed on poor readers. There is no fun then just arjun baba gets excited and his chop shop gets busy and pasteing stuff. Then beharam get hate attack and dev starts calling names. No fun left and this mud slinging free style wresting is getting boring. Now Jinnah won in that contest and Gandhi lost as India divided and Jinnahji got he want and people of our country got they got so point in digging old graves. Gandhi lost you can see all around world. Cecz republic and sSlovakia could not live to gether. Bosnia moving away, Central asia got nations based on ethinic idendidity and all subcontinent is disintegrating based on ethinicity. Jinnah was right to ask nation for people who feel they can not coexist. He had courage to state brute thing many people can not stand each other then better divorce than go on bad marriage. National unity under brute force is not good and desirable. Two nation theory has corrolaries and that lead to division of Pakistan of 1947s. Now tamil religion people want away from India. Lanka people are slaughtering each other due to religion. Afghan trouble is also nationality trouble , tajik, Uzbecs,and others aginst pathans Talibans etc. Same thing in Iraq Shias are sluaghtering Sunnies in several dozons and Sunni hunters have become hunted all due to TNT there and , only solution as Jinnah solution is trifercation of Iraq and Sunnies are getting screwed by Kurds and Shias. All around you can see in our nation itself, ethinicity is more important than nationality. Clear evidence is existance of politically defuct organization- PONAM, Pakistan oppressed nations.... so in future if nationalist leaders of Sindh, baloch, etc.. can start hatred against Punjabis can lead to law and order problems.
Gandhi was not bad man but unrealistic person could not understood power of hated, greed, envy and jalosy. It is sad bad politicians just use etinic hatred to advance their narrow agendas and forget pakistan. Sindhis hate MQM but its not MQM people problem. Loosers instead of fonding fault in correcting just blame others.
Any way request for all keep to topic discussed and magzine can make section for all Pehalavans of India and Pakistan mud ring and they can get in mud and whip each other.
Again hope comments are regarding ``
The Massacre at Bajaur
S. Farooq Hasnat
November 5, 2006

And I feel Gandhi and Jinnah both had no hand in Massacre at Bajaur by Air machines, it may be by usa but General is trying to keep false drama that PIA slaughterd religious students. Pakistani army will just refuse to do that and this just not possible. I feel sad general is putting bad stuff on army to save anger of people against america. He can not go on deciving all people , and people feel sad as they understand what is going its classic ``Majburi``.
Anyway hope request Behram, Mantoji, Arjunji, Devji and all other soldiers to follow rules of war and stick to subject.Now all this are perfect gentl;emen studied in usa and are good enough to allowed by usa govt to work there for exceptional high tech skills so hope they follow american way of polite and smile.
Have good day for everybody.

#various besharm

Indians are the most enterprising group in US. see below:

WASHINGTON: Indian immigrants to the United States account for 28 per cent of all foreign-founded private start-up companies in a climate dominated by migrant entrepreneurship, according to a new study.

The study found that over the past 15 years, immigrants have started 1 in 4 (25 percent) US public companies that were venture-backed, representing a market capitalization of more than $500 billion. Topping that, a survey of private, venture-backed start-up companies in the US estimated that a staggering 47 percent have immigrant founders.

In that group, ``India was the most prevalent country of origin with 28 percent followed by the United Kingdom (11 percent), China (5 percent), Iran (4 percent), and France (4 percent),`` the study says. No numbers were given for public venture-backed firms, but even in that category, ``the most common countries of origin are India, Israel and Taiwan.``

The findings back the long-held view, based on more limited surveys in Silicon Valley, that Indian immigrants are a significant force in America’s start-up culture. Indians have been founding companies in the U.S even outside Bay area for decades, going back to Amar Bose`s Bose Corp in Massachusetts and Suhas Patil’s Cirrus Logic in Utah.

The study also found that immigrant founders are responsible for building a high percentage of the most innovative American companies, with 87 percent operating in sectors such as high-tech manufacturing, information technology and life sciences. These companies are headquartered across the country but are concentrated in five states: California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Washington and Texas.

Nearly half of the immigrant entrepreneurs in the current nationwide survey (46 percent) arrived in the US as students, the study says. More than half of the founders started their businesses within 12 years of entering the US They hold an average of 14.5 patents. Sixty-nine percent of these individuals have become American citizens.

Authors of the survey cited this to emphasize the need for the United States to remain open for legal immigration and higher work visa quotas.

I understand the golden rule of interaction today;)

Write all irrational & hateful sentences and round them off with a `Respectfully Submitted` phrase - like a TRUE Ghulam does - then the post becomes a decent one.

GREAT!

Re: # 567

Another point:

These phrases were taught by the Britishers to Indians to exemplify the Master-Servant relation between them and us. These are getting outmoded in India but the Neuter is still enamoured of these Ghulami phrases.

Disrespectufully Submitted.

#565 by behram1 on November 15, 2006 11:26am PT

retardo....what about the names of the companies run by pakis? (p.s. you`ll have to do better than small time contractors like behram engineers to match up cirrus logic or tibco)...

#531 by behram-baba

[Pakistanis, for the most part believe in having their own small business environment, and hindoos don`t. Hindoo Land has trained a naukri mentality, and that is fact. Otherwise, with the numerical advantage that hindoos have, why would you not find more hindoos in small professional businesses? Why is that? ]

Further to my previous post....

I see regularly that my American colleagues are reluctant to hire Mooslas. Their situation is like the Jews. Jews took to business because the Christians would not hire them.

There are a couple of differences, though. Mooslas are not as smart as the Jews, nor as peace-loving as the Jews.

Christians were VERY wrong to have discriminated against the Jews.
Christians are TOTALLY JUSTIFIED for discriminating against the Mooslas. After all, who wants a jehadi diaper-head in his company?

Eh?

:)

#531 by behram-baba

[Pakistanis, for the most part believe in having their own small business environment, and hindoos don`t. Hindoo Land has trained a naukri mentality, and that is fact. Otherwise, with the numerical advantage that hindoos have, why would you not find more hindoos in small professional businesses? Why is that? ]

This is a good point. Every time I go to a smalltime cellphone seller, it is run by Mooslas. Someone tells me that the reasons are twofold - lack of education, and the fact that Americans are reluctant to hire mooslas. Who wants a pedophile-worshipping jehadi-type in their company, Eh?

And the Moosla-run businesses never expand into anything big. Because for that you need brains. And Mooslas have camel-dung for brains. :)

misc by behram-baba

behram-baba,

Don`t listen to the Hindoos. Only you mooslas are right. That is the first thing. Secondly, don`t let the Hindoos criticize your septic tank-cleaning business. It is a good business. :)

Just because the Hindoos work in NASA and Microsoft and are CEOs in firms like Motorola means nothing. The septic tank business is what counts. If you cannot dig a ditch with your own hands, then what kind of an engineer are you? Eh?

Carry on the good work. And go easy on the garlic. One thing about Mooslas is their bad breath. It`s from eating cow intestine with garlic.

Otherwise, mooslas are MUCH better than Hindoos. Even if the diaper-heads are not well educated.

I was reading somewhere that an engineering degree from Pakiland is like a 8-th grade education in India. But you are right, what`s the point studying too much if you are opening your own business cleaning septic tanks?

Eh?

:)

Re: # 562by krishna_abcd on November 15, 2006 9:27am PT

Lord krishna:

You are beginning to learn how to post in a civilized way, and that is a good thing. Actually, you are even learning my style, and that is also a good thing.

What you are unable to learn, however, is how not to be hateful. You constantly bring in religion etc. which has nothing to do with the present discussion. I can understand that being a hindoo, you may be autistic (or a bipolar?), and hence stuck in your diatribe.

But, once again, the point is not lost to most people who chose to come to this site, yet they chose not to interact. That is right because I am making valid arguments that Pakistan has been producing good quality engineers, and most of them are in their own businesses.

Once again, Pakistanis are fortunate to differentiate ourselves from those who have come Hindoo Land. Heck, even hindoos from Sri Lanka do not like people from Hindoo Land.

{I see regularly that my American colleagues are reluctant to hire Mooslas. Their situation is like the Jews. Jews took to business because the Christians would not hire them. }

Now that logic is kinda twisted. Only numerical minorities may go into their own business (true for the Jews), and muslims do have numerical advantage. Actually, for muslims to be in their own business is because their holy prophet was in his own business, and as such it is considered as sunnat-e-rasool, which a hindoo, who is hateful like yourself will chose to not understand.

The answer to why most people from Pakistan chose business over employment is because we have more dignity than your ilk from the Hindoo Land. Look at Sardarijis from your society, they have too much dignity to be somebodies naukar. And this behaviour should be clear to you. Hindoos from Hindoo Land are just made for ghulaami.

And what better way than to be corporation`s ghulaam.

But, when you come to the real engineers. Those who are civil engineers, and work with mother earth, and interact with the people, you see humanity. Hindoos who have always worked inside corporations can never see what it takes to build a canal, and irrigate mother earth. And peeing is not what I mean by irrigation.

And when you want to build a super highway, you interact with local people to see who would lose their houses to eminent domain laws that the attorney`s have instituted, and the big corporate wigs (but not the engineer).

Engineers do not hate. But, you and your hindoos from Hindoo Land are consumed with hate. And the reason is obvious that you are not in touch with humanity.

Respectfully submitted,

#560 behramji, i dispute your list but do not dispute if you should include taxi services to the list.

So how many hindoo owners of structural engineering firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

How many hindoo owners of civil engineering firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

Or hindoo owners of surveying firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

Or hindoo owners of architectural firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

Or hindoo owners of mechanical engineering firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

Or hindoo owners of electrical engineering firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

Or hindoo owners of plumbing engineering firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

No wonder hindoo land has lousy infrastructure, and have no indoor plumbing. Hindoo land is nothing but a land of squatters.

Just to prove another point of ingenuity. Why are there more hits on this site from the hindoo lot that discussing about their own shenanigans on the site where conditions of Indians muslims are being discussed, eh!

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There are more hits on the other site, yet less interacts compared to this site.

Indian Muslims by Aparna Pande hits: 11900 interacts: 403

The Massacre at Bajaur by S. Farooq Hasnat hits: 11696 interacts: 558

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May be it just shows that hindoo land have their priority all screwed up, eh!

The latest figures from the census bureau are out.

As anyone with more than one brain cell(which leaves behram out) can see, the numbers for Indians and Pakistanis speak for themselves...

People with graduate or professional degrees
Indians: 36%
Pakis: 23%

People in management, professional and related occupations
Indians: 61%
Pakis: 42%


And here`s the kicker...

Median household income (dollars)
Indians: 73,575
Pakis: 53,127

People on food stamp benefits aka welfare
Indians: 2.7%
Pakis: 4.5%


Per capita income (dollars)
Indians: 33,431
Pakis: 20,630

Poverty rate:
Indians: 8.4%
Pakistanis: 14.7%


Owner-occupied housing units
OWNER CHARACTERISTICS

Indians: 363,100
Pakis: 297,200



Bottom line: regardless of manto`s brother in law and retardo`s smalltime contracting business, Indians make more money and are better educated.