The Massacre at Bajaur

#537 by behram1 on November 14, 2006 7:43pm PT

hello inbred retard: we`re all waiting for you to name some of your famous paki-run old economy companies...

the fact of the matter is that behram is a small time contractor who only gets small jobs because of affirmative action..

no amount of self-deluding by the inbred retard will change this fact...

#531 by behram1 on November 14, 2006 4:52pm PT


I have always maintained that working for a hi-tech company as a code coolie is nothing to brag about.


Sure retardo...and the voices in your head agree with you...the facts, on the other hand...

#531,
Does other line of DMZ means self employed? If so, then no one has made that claim.
I cannot imagine that all engineering employees at Parsons or ABB or McDermott or KBR are worthless paper pusher and the only reason these companies are successful is because they hire consultant.
To be a consultant one needs skills to market onself and obtain projects along with engineering skills. Not all engineers are comfortable with that. That is why they prefer to work for a company rather than starting their own consulting business.

Your ``most part`` argument falls flat as you do not have any number to base that claim on.

irony of this PE`s in Texas debate is the the Chairman of the board that makes decisions regarding PE`s in Texas is a gujju bhai.:)

Re: # 533
This is saddest thing that Indians are deciving american people and that man must be selling PE degrees as most gujaratis are salesman at heart and cheat.I heard Texas people are cowboy tipe hot tempered but not smart like newyork or washinton city. They so shrewd they will,take out your gold tooth and you will thank them. It is sad things of coming of white race that they accept control by dark hindus. White countries are going down. I do not know but how shameless dutch, English have become. First they accepted mr. Mittal as develish looking dark Indian , a sindhi hindu who promised good things and then screwed workers by firing them and closing steel plants and firing people and saying over that he is ``right sizeing`` factory and then spending 23 million on his daughters marriage. The dutch and English whose fore fathers ruled india and fear in minds of Indians ( gandhi that little ugly man made vanish fear in hearts of millions) whose queenVictoria was proclaimed ``kaiser -E-Hind`` have accepted Mittal as their savior something is wromg in these people. They should feel ashamed. Now little indian tata company takes again british steel company. It is really shame that dirt poor poor are given passport to loot wealth. So europe steel making controlled by dark hindus. If it was Japan or China or Korea is ok as they are almost white race and have lots of good things. I think Europe is down going fast. One needs to give credit america they have not allowed mittal or Tata take us steel making business. Question why Pakistan govt start campaign to inform about Indians and their attitude of making american unemployed.
I have great honor to have person like Mr. Beheram who is employing american and supporting american families. I hope he does not employ Indians as if they employ they will know all tricks of business and copy and start same. They have bad habit of biting feeding hand. American kids send free computers to poor indian boys and schools and they mastered it and displaced jobs of american dads and moms as all job went to banglore. And now amrican have lost strength and giving more nd more work indians.
I am not for high tech low tech but for notech business things as there is more profit in notech. Hightech has only made people unemployed and useless. There are most little business people in Karachi who make money in millions of dollars and invest in Gulf but they will not show wealth but keep quite. America and white nations are making big mistakes by giving medical tourism to India. That more better business to greedy indian health professionals as they will cut bodies of white people and get money for it. This dangerous move as then Indians will make too much money. This money can easily exceed IT money and can lead to more wealth in medical service sector. When unchecked Indians went ahead made now lots of money in IT sector. Medical tourism can be worst it can create more than 5 times that and its bad as that will result in more aggresive indian military.
What our people need to leave hindus where they want, cut relationship and ask them to go home and our people home. Here we allowed Indians and now they control this medium and criticise us all time. One way is to keep india of Out of site and slowly out of mind. I hope this newspaper can do that. We shpuld react with Persians, arab, iraquis, muslims and no indians. There are over 50 mations of Ummah, UMS ( United Muslim States), let ask 50 nations to people write here, we shuld invite them. We need to move away from India. oNE WAY IS SLOWLY INTRODUCE ARABIC AS A NATIONAL LANGUAGE. Unfortunately Hindi and urdu are almost same loike lions and cats same. Some how we need muslims other than Irp citizens contributing to this paper and indian contribution max to 2%. Why not take interest in emerging things in THILQAND ETC.
tIME TO SAY GOOD BYE TO iNDIA AND WELCOME MEMBERS OF mUSLIM uMMAH, AND india out of site and then OUT OF MIND, THEH LEARN aRBIC AND BECOME ARAB SKPEAKING COUNTRY. NEED TOGO WILL WRITE TOMORROW.

Re: # 539

Why do I get the feeling that you are an Indian Chowkie pretending to be not??? Just to portray Muslims & Pakistan in a poor light. Such extreme extremism appears to be highly contrived.

#531 behramji, you have made many loose assertions, admirably (HP is very impressed) forcefully, but not proven or supported them. then you saw a slew of data contrary to your assertions.

one assertion from me is code-coolie industry is prolly has the largest number of independent contractors and small consulting houses.

maybe its time to resort to those sugarcanes and hindu-girls argument?

Re: # 532 by ModiForPM on November 14, 2006 6:38pm PT

Responding to all-in-one from hindoo land:

{Does other line of DMZ means self employed?} No, the other side of DMZ line is the area where hi-tech code coolies assert that they are engineers, and here in my state, they are not. So much for the argument, extended by your lot, that Pakistan does not have good engineering educational system. Actually, As I have proven to you that Pakistani engineers are better than Indians.

{I cannot imagine that all engineering employees at Parsons or ABB or McDermott or KBR are worthless paper pusher and the only reason these companies are successful is because they hire consultant.}

Well, maybe not all, but all Indians are. Otherwise why take refuge in large numbers? Engineers by definition has to be independent and freedom loving. Keep an eye of whom I define as engineers. Have you ever had a chance to talk with Civil Engineers? or for that matter Structural Engineers?

You will find that they are not the usual lotta that you find amongst Indians. Face it, there are no Indian who can match the freedom loving engineers from Pakistan. Large companies have what is called inertia. And all of these companies that you have named has a huge contractor side besides it, and they buy projects because of financial arm to it. No, they can never produce the best engineering practices than the small nibbling engineering consultant. Just look at most of the engineering associations and you will rarely find the bureaucrats of these large conglomerates.

Besides, none of these are Indians. Why? When in the high-tech code coolie environment, your hindoo folks can incessantly brag about Wipro, Tata, etc., what went wrong in the old economy engineering business. We never heard of any Indian consulting engineering firm building a Jubail City in Saudi Arabia. Why?

Because Indian engineers are useless, and most who enter the profession want to become paper pushers in large corporations. Again, Indians are infested in lower tiers of any reputable engineering corporation. Private, these large corporations maybe, but they still are bureaucratic. And what happens in any bureaucracy, Indians remain like an old furniture.

It is not useful even to consider these people are engineers any more, because all they want is a paycheck and run home exactly at five. Will you ever get any invention out of folks like these. Never.

Heck, the Indians, who are stuck in academia can barely get their classes filled. They have not written a single book that is taught in the engineering world. Yes, they have ``day chaapo`` from other authors and stolen ideas from other renowned engineers.

{To be a consultant one needs skills to market onself and obtain projects along with engineering skills. Not all engineers are comfortable with that. That is why they prefer to work for a company rather than starting their own consulting business. }

Agreed, and that is exactly my point. But, this should be true with Pakistani engineers as well, don`t you agree? Why do we not see more Indians in the true engineering professional businesses?

{Your ``most part`` argument falls flat as you do not have any number to base that claim on.}

Yes agreed, because small consulting engineers are by definition unaccounted for, and all the more reason that Pakistani engineers are so enterprising. Incidentally, why is Tata Consultancy not competing for the over $50B Trans Texas Corridor? Because Tata consultancy is not in this kind of engineering, eh!

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{#533 by dullabhatti on November 14, 2006 5:38pm PT
irony of this PE`s in Texas debate is the the Chairman of the board that makes decisions regarding PE`s in Texas is a gujju bhai.:)}

Yes, bhatti shaib, that is the whole irony. Your unelected sham democracy has taken the newer engineers on a wild goose chase. Heck, until the early 1980`s, your government did not allow graduate students to come to the US. Heck, very few hungry one who came were enamored by the hi-tech industry, and lost their engineering credibility. Or the luck few became a loquacious no-brainer ``kitaabi keera`` at some University.

Hindoo engineers are truly a lost and a wretched soul.

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{#532 by jang on November 14, 2006 5:16pm PT
#531 behramji, you have made many loose assertions, admirably (HP is very impressed) forcefully, but not proven or supported them. then you saw a slew of data contrary to your assertions. }

Of course your notion can not be taken seriously. You are from a land that has been our enemy from day one of its independence. Now you would not expect to be honest about your inner feeling towards a successful country like Pakistan, or do you?

Jangju, you are a jealous and an envious person, and you know that. It is OK to accept your true inner feeling towards those who are highly advanced than you are. And Pakistan is such a country.

{one assertion from me is code-coolie industry is prolly has the largest number of independent contractors and small consulting houses. }

Here you go as vibrating and as fluctuating as the other autistic hindoo. Once gain, focus on the definition of engineering, and which engineering business we are talking about.

{maybe its time to resort to those sugarcanes and hindu-girls argument?} Alright, I can certainly use that on appropriate occasion. But as it stands right now I am enjoying these cherished moment of humiliating your educational system.

I would never give up this style of argument where every fabric in your hindoo body is burning with hate and despair.

Respectfully submitted,

Dear Jang/Modi:

I have always maintained that working for a hi-tech company as a code coolie is nothing to brag about. Unfortunately, for most good indian engineers, they get stuck with these thoughts that somehow those on the other side of the DMZ line, somehow their shit does not stink. Or somehow if you are employed as a teacher in some University you are a better engineer.

Far from it. Those who work in some corporation and those who are employed in a university are the most useless engineers possible. Engineers are truly made when you work in a consulting environment and be almost on your own.

Do you get it now!

Otherwise it is truly a bogus argument for employees to make a lot of money than those of us who are self-employed. Now autistic people can get stuck with their level of thinking, but I suppose that the two of you are not autistic. Or are you?

It is a known fact that revenues/employee in any corporation is over $400,000 per year. And the average engineer, as an employee makes maybe $70,000/ year. What happens to the rest of the contribution that the employee has made? Corporation gets it, huh!

I have always been consistent in my argument against those who promote corporation`s welfare and not individual welfare. Pakistanis, for the most part believe in having their own small business environment, and hindoos don`t. Hindoo Land has trained a naukri mentality, and that is fact. Otherwise, with the numerical advantage that hindoos have, why would you not find more hindoos in small professional businesses? Why is that?

Respectfully submitted,

aww...sorry I had to rain in on the inbred retard self-delusion parade...


‘TCS gets $100m deal from US firm’

NEW DELHI: Top Indian software services firm, Tata Consultancy Services Ltd has won a $100 million contract from Kimberly-Clark Corp, a source close to the deal told Reuters on Tuesday, boosting its stock.

Dallas-based Kimberly-Clark, which makes Huggies diapers and Kleenex tissues, joins a rapidly growing number of foreign firms that outsource design work, supply chain management and payroll processing to India.

TCS officials could not be reached for comment, but the source said the contract would last for several years. Earlier this month, the firm said it had bagged a $90 million contract from Australia’s Qantas Airways Ltd.

“TCS is likely to outperform its peers and the index in the short-term, based on these order wins,” said an analyst who declined to be identified. He saw TCS climbing to 1,200-1,250 rupees in six to nine months based on its order backlog.

Shares in Tata Consultancy were 2.5 percent higher at 1,101 rupees, down from 1,107.8, in a flat Mumbai market. The stock was the second most active counter on the Mumbai exchange with 8.8 million shares changing hands.

Tuesday’s volume was the firm’s highest since Aug 25, 2004 when the stock listed and 13.07 million shares changed hands. TCS has a market value of $23.6 billion, making it the sixth-most valuable Indian stock.

India’s software and back-office industry, which gets 90 percent of its revenue from overseas clients, expects exports to rise 27-30 percent to $29-31 billion in the year to March 2007 as demand for outsourcing remains robust.

Attracted by a large pool of English-speaking engineers and significantly lower wage costs, the industry has been a driving force behind India’s strong economic growth of the last three years. The United States is the largest market for Indian software firms, accounting for more than 60 percent of sales.

Stocks get US leg up: Earlier in the day, India’s fifth-ranked HCL Technologies Ltd said it had formed a partnership with Canadian firm Celestica Inc.

The win added to general buoyancy in software stocks, which were anyway trading in positive territory following an overnight rise in prices of their American Depositary Receipts.

Second-ranked exporter Infosys Technologies Ltd. hit a new peak of 2,225 rupees as the domestic stock tracked a 3 percent rise on its Nasdaq-listed ADR.

Market darling Infosys, which enjoys the highest 11.52 percent weighting on the main index, was quoting 2.7 percent higher at 2,219.10 rupees. It was the top gainer on the marker that also hit an all-time high in early deals.

Infosys plans to convert about $1.5 billion of domestic stock into US-listed shares.

The Mumbai-based analyst said he expected TCS to narrow the discount between itself and Infosys based on forward price earnings multiple for the year to March 2007. reuters

behramji,

here are a couple..

PE number 73260 PATEL, HARSHAD KUMAR MANUBHAI
% K H CONSULTING & DESIGN

80538 JOSHI, NALIN HARILAL
N H JOSHI & ASSOCIATES INC

Modi..sure.

Behram,
You argue by asking data that is does not exist e.g. Indians with PE. No one gathers that kind of data so its just hard to refute your arguments.
Now, you came up with new argument i.e. asking list of Indians with P.E. that own a consulting business.

Behram,
You said that indians are good only at coding but not at engnineering. Thus, I gave you the list of Indians with P.E.
Also, I do not understand your quest that only if you start a consulting business then you are bright otherwise you are a rat. To finish a project (be it designing a pressure vessels or designing an cad module i.e. coding) requires skills. Your assertion that one is idiot until they start business is itself an idiotic. Next thing one can compare is how many Indians are in top management of a company. To name a few would be CEO of Pepsi, Vinod Khosla of Sun Microsystems.

Projects in middle east have always favoured american or european companies because of the political connections of those companies.

Anyone who suggest that engineering is only in software while not in other fields like mechanical, civil, structural or electrical are ignorant. I dont see any Indians claiming that.

#521 jang,
so you agree that there are lot of indians with P.E.

#522 by behram1

`` it is your autistic hindoo baradari who were suggesting that engineering is only the hi-tech code coolie baradari.``

Behram,

You are meticuleously and steadfastly destorying all the fantasies these code coollies hold dear to their hearts. I think you must have by now realized that these code coolies believe that copy pasting code from different programmers` forums is engineering!

#516 by okhla99 on November 14, 2006 12:12pm PT


Are you blind? Indians make 40% more than Pakis...And the spread in the number of degree holders is almost 10%..

If you think that`s a trivial difference, maybe you should ask your boss for a 40% pay cut...or a 10% increase in the cost of health care...