The Massacre at Bajaur

Yaar,

The way you guys hijack all topics to naked Pakistan bashing and Muslim bashing is
disgusting. If you all are so intelligent as you claim to be, kindly keep the discussion within
civilised limits.

Arjun and Krishna are particularly vitriolic. Ranjit appeared rational in the beginning but soon succumbed. VRV, Devkant and Monto have all degenerated to the same level. Behram is now plumbing new depths.

Tell me, do you achieve anything by this???

Intellectually, you appear to be closer to the mad mullahs than to intelligent rational
debaters. If educated, intelligent Indians and Pakistanis cannot engage in civilised debate, why should we blame our Mullahs, Militaries or Politicians????

I Know I am going to get a lot of ``But he started it...`` or ``But first he....`` or ``He
always....``. But seriously, guys, think.

Let us all strive to improve the quality of debate.

i guess that apart from abuses, lies and insults, yasser is not going to give us answers to the questions we had asked. according to him, he claims to have answered all that we had asked, but i guess any sane person after going thru the various posts will be able to filter out the fact and crap.

rgds,

devkant.

Guys,

As I suspected, I found Behram`s company listed under the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise List in Texas -

http://www.dot.state.tx.us/insdtdot/geodist/aus/cserve/dbelst/dbelsaus.htm

That means that Behram is a minority contractor, who gets work set aside by the Texas state government on affirmative action basis. So the big talking bawaji, who claims to do real engineering, is basically an affirmative action person. Its not his merit but his brown skin color that he is using to get by in the world.

Next time he says anything about hindus, we should rub his face with this. He is no different from the scheduled caste quota guys in India, who use quotas to get ahead. If he had any real skills, he should compete head on with the goras, like we Indians do, not hide behind affirmative action.

#581 by behram1

[Now such a response could be construed an intelligent response...]


How would YOU know? Eh?

Now go clean another septic tank.

:)

Ahmedmadani sahib,

India has a fairly large PSU in earthmoving equipment called Bharat Earth Movers Limited, otherwise the major players are all MNCs- Hitachi, Komatsu, JCB, Caterpillar etc.

Behram sahib,

(Caterpillar Closes Indian Buy )

So which countries do MNCs invest in.

Regards

Behramji, i think we need all the caterpillars and your expertize with slums of bombay (as well as in engineering). Here is an opportunity for you..

`` New York-based Trikona Capital will invest one billion dollars in slum redevelopment projects in Mumbai city.

Trikona will develop a total of 100 million sq ft of residential space as part of its ``city rejuvenation project`` and has tied up with Lokhandwala Builders for its first project in central Mumbai, company managing director and co-founder Aashish Kalra said.

This is part of the $ 2.5 billion the company plans to invest in the Indian residential sector over the next three and a half years. ``We expect to bring in a further one billion dollar each year after that,`` Kalra added.

#576

Behram sahib, you forgot to post the last paragraph from the news you posted.


``Completing this transaction will help Team Caterpillar better serve our customers who are involved in the remarkable progress that is taking place in India in the areas of infrastructure improvements and energy development,`` the company said. ``The acquisition also aligns this operation more closely with the other power systems groups that are part of the global Caterpillar family.``

when you pick news to post, pehlay parh liya karo.:)

Re: # 582

It`s not to clear if Caterpiller left India or they just brought local partner . Sometime when foreign companies take over means they have more interest and wants to have full control.
I wonder if India has any local earthmoving equipment companies , Hitachi, Kamtsu,Hundai companies many machnes are big way in Pakistan. All have interest in Pakistan as in near future Pakistan is becoming transit for oil, gas and refinaries and hydrocarbon processing of giant special at big port G. Soon refineries will be built bigger than jamnagar of India. They are designing refineries which can process light as well as heavy Arabian crudes with large sulphur and by products of distillation it self be 5 billion dollars. Three refineris are on drawing for specially high speed disel and also fertilizer plants based on Iranian and Turkmen natural gas. This huge pipe lines converging fron gulf and Iran and cental are coming at big Gport. This is going to require huge digging and laying pipelines. All big earth movers want to be pakistan to have part of this big projects. Now China president is coming for 7 days while spend only 3 days India, real snub from super power.
To have this possible need stopping of terrorism or pipe lines will burst, so GOP is getting hard with terrorist. Talibani terrorist are holding economic future of country, so one can understand armys explosive response.

Re: #579 by myself

I forgot to provide the link:

http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/mainfile.php/2006/2015/

Pedophile worship in, Hinduism out

Hindu Temple Grabbed by Islamists

There is a century old residential compound of the Hindu community in Lyari town of Karachi, Sindh province, which was constructed in 1901, where more than 100 houses of the Hindu community are located and an old temple with the name of Shiv Mander. This compound is exclusively earmarked for Hindus by the government of Sindh province under the Evacuee Property Act 1957. This Evacuee Property Act was formed for transfer of property for those Hindu and Muslim people who migrated to India and Pakistan following Pakistan`s independence from India. The Hindu residents of the compound are paying rent to Pakistan government under a 1958 agreement which is administered under the auspices of the Evacuee Property Act 1957. The Act prohibits a person(s) who was granted a land, from selling it.

However, with the help of Baghdadi police in Kakri ground, Lyari town, land grabbers have been forcibly evicting residents in this compound. As a result, only 35 families are left. The Muslim extremists and Baghdadi police are also allegedly forcing the Hindu residents to sign on the residential document that subsequently gives the right of using the land to the land grabbers in exchange for a very little amount.

In July and August 2006, a local Union Council member with a minority seat named Mr. Aanwal Das who resides in the same compound was threatened several times by the Baghdadi police and Muslim extremists to vacate the compound of its Hindu community. He several times to make representation to higher authorities including the Chief Minister of Sindh province about the forced eviction of the community but all his representations went in vain. To date, no action has yet been taken by any of the local government`s authorities to address this matter.

Beside this, Baghdadi police reportedly allow the Muslims to slaughter the cows inside the compound’s walls to insult Hindu religion and scare the community. The police have also taken over the Shiv Mander temple and transformed it into a place for Muslim worship. Furthermore, whenever there are any Hindu religious ceremonies, like Holy, Deewali, Janam Ashtmi or the birthday of Shiva Jee, inside the compound, the Muslim extremists throw stones and filth to stop the functions and the police do not intervene at all to stop these acts.

The AHRC was also informed that several Hindu girls have been reportedly raped within the compound but the Baghdadi police showed no willingness to register the cases. For example, in April 2006, Baghdadi police received a complaint regarding the kidnapping and rape of a Hindu girl by an alleged Muslim rapist named Javed Qasai. However, instead of arresting him, the police forced the girl`s family to settle the matter with the perpetrator and basically allowed him to leave the compound freely.

Just the latest count of hits on this website:

Indian Muslims by Aparna Pande hits: 12889 interacts: 441

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The Massacre at Bajaur by S. Farooq Hasnat hits: 12454 interacts: 576

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Why more hits on the Indian Muslims site then on the Bajaur massacre site?

It is just plain and simple. More hindoos own computers, and more Mooslums own goats. It`s as simple as that. :)

Re: # 578 by krishna_abcd on November 16, 2006 9:19am PT

Dear Lord Krishna:

Your responded by suggesting:

{It is just plain and simple. More hindoos own computers, and more Mooslums own goats. It`s as simple as that. :) }

Now such a response could be construed an intelligent response but as usual you have partially answered the question. But where are the hindoo computers when it comes to:

Indian Muslims by Aparna Pande

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The Massacre at Bajaur by S. Farooq Hasnat

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And please don`t let those rocks keep bouncing around your empty skull.

Respectfully submitted,

Just the latest count of hits on this website:

Indian Muslims by Aparna Pande hits: 12889 interacts: 441

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The Massacre at Bajaur by S. Farooq Hasnat hits: 12454 interacts: 576

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Why more hits on the Indian Muslims site then on the Bajaur massacre site?

It is just plain and simple. More hindoos interact here to show their hatred towards Pakistan, yet they can not defend the shenanigans of their own Hindoo Land.

Caterpillar in, Hindoo partner out.

Caterpillar Closes Indian Buy

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/newsanalysis/general/10322618.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA

Heavy machinery company Caterpillar (CAT - commentary - Cramer`s Take) said Wednesday that it completed the acquisition of a former joint venture engine operation in Mathagondapalli, Hosur, India.

The joint venture, which was originally formed in 1988 as Hindustan PowerPlus, is now a Caterpillar wholly owned subsidiary and has been renamed Caterpillar Power India, the Peoria, Ill.-based company said.

madani sahib, the common thread is that bombing of bajaur is an effect of TNT (not he chemical alone). so discussing jinnah is relevant.

and ahmed madani bhai...it wouldn`t be a bad idea to check out who starts this slugfest.

once you know the people starting this slugfest, kindly target them next time,

rgds,

devkant.

Ahmed Madani bhai,

I think u have been long enough on chowk to realise that all posts, irrespective of the topic, end up with a Indo-Pak/Hindu-Muslim/MAJ (pbuh)-MKG slugfest.

Regards

for beharam.....look, your pakis are going places!!!!!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pakistani_church_workers_arrested/articleshow/459980.cms

Pakistanis posing as church workers held
[ 16 Nov, 2006 1048hrs ISTAP ]

WASHINGTON: Dozens of Pakistani immigrants who came to the United States posing as religious workers were arrested as Homeland Security agents tried to close a commonly exploited avenue for aliens to get into the country.

Immigrants who were supposed to be teaching or conducting religious ceremonies were arrested across the East Coast on Wednesday. Many of those arrested worked as attendants in gasoline stations, taxi drivers, landscapers and factory workers.

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have been scrutinising the religious worker visa programme, which a 2005 review found was rife with problems. Homeland Security officials found fraud in one out of every three religious visas they reviewed.

Churches that sponsored the workers turned out not to exist, workers could not be found and addresses could not be verified, the study said. In one incident, the address on the visa application was found to have been used by a terrorist suspect.

Most of the 33 people arrested Wednesday were from Pakistan. Authorities said there was no indication of a terrorist threat. US Immigration and Customs Enforcement said the aliens paid large cash fees to get people or organisations to sponsor them for visas.

Arrests were made in eight states, mostly along the Eastern Seaboard and in the Washington.

In June, Washington state pastor Dong Wan Park was convicted of helping South Korean nationals file fraudulent religious visa applications. None of the applicants was ever employed at the church.

#565 by behram-baba

Here`s what cleaning septic tanks does to your brain:

[You constantly bring in religion etc. which has nothing to do with the present discussion.]

and then:

[I can understand that being a hindoo, you may be autistic (or a bipolar?), and hence stuck in your diatribe. ]

Camel-dung in the brain, that`s what it is.


[But, once again, the point is not lost to most people who chose to come to this site, yet they chose not to interact. That is right because I am making valid arguments that Pakistan has been producing good quality engineers, and most of them are in their own businesses. ]

This is true. Cleaning septic tanks, digging ditches. Nowadays the Mexican immigrants are subcontracting their work to the Moooslums. Behram-baba is getting a lot of that work - he is a PE, no less! :)



[Now that logic is kinda twisted. Only numerical minorities may go into their own business (true for the Jews), and muslims do have numerical advantage.]

Not in the USA, numbnuts. We are talking about the USA, remember?



[Actually, for muslims to be in their own business is because their holy prophet was in his own business, and as such it is considered as sunnat-e-rasool, which a hindoo, who is hateful like yourself will chose to not understand. ]

No. He was doing Ghulami under his wife. He was so afraid of his wife that he did not dare marry anyone while she was alive, but chose to lead the life of a useless drone, living off of his wife.

Reminds you of Hitler who used to sleep on Park benches until he got into politics.

Re: # 570

Mr. Arjun, Beharam, Dev, Manto and all others what this dirty game going on. You are going crazy and and speaking and throwing bad words all around making few decent people dare to read stuff here.
Do you know what was original topic?
Let me remind you

The Massacre at Bajaur
S. Farooq Hasnat
November 5, 2006

Do you retards know even by any chance it has any connection with any connection with ``Massacre at Bajaur``. Be honest. It would have been better you all morons just out of respect for author put combined giant intelluct for finding if it was usa air atomatic machine sending missiles or Pakistani Hawai Jahaj carried out surgical attacks. I have come to conclusion there should be top official cutting to size irrelevant comments out of respect for author. More time goes and comments become more unrelated and after 35 comments stupidy goes expoentially to reach heavens. It appears as a mad zoo and different monkeys fighting. Profanity, stupidity is acceptable if its subtle and interesting. But Manto starts even at site of Gandhi word his Gandhiphobis and Jinnaholic bouts of euphoria and all world goes to hell. He puts same stuff regugarated as new fresh stuff and feels it smells sweet. And what is point of same old stale stuff stuffed on poor readers. There is no fun then just arjun baba gets excited and his chop shop gets busy and pasteing stuff. Then beharam get hate attack and dev starts calling names. No fun left and this mud slinging free style wresting is getting boring. Now Jinnah won in that contest and Gandhi lost as India divided and Jinnahji got he want and people of our country got they got so point in digging old graves. Gandhi lost you can see all around world. Cecz republic and sSlovakia could not live to gether. Bosnia moving away, Central asia got nations based on ethinic idendidity and all subcontinent is disintegrating based on ethinicity. Jinnah was right to ask nation for people who feel they can not coexist. He had courage to state brute thing many people can not stand each other then better divorce than go on bad marriage. National unity under brute force is not good and desirable. Two nation theory has corrolaries and that lead to division of Pakistan of 1947s. Now tamil religion people want away from India. Lanka people are slaughtering each other due to religion. Afghan trouble is also nationality trouble , tajik, Uzbecs,and others aginst pathans Talibans etc. Same thing in Iraq Shias are sluaghtering Sunnies in several dozons and Sunni hunters have become hunted all due to TNT there and , only solution as Jinnah solution is trifercation of Iraq and Sunnies are getting screwed by Kurds and Shias. All around you can see in our nation itself, ethinicity is more important than nationality. Clear evidence is existance of politically defuct organization- PONAM, Pakistan oppressed nations.... so in future if nationalist leaders of Sindh, baloch, etc.. can start hatred against Punjabis can lead to law and order problems.
Gandhi was not bad man but unrealistic person could not understood power of hated, greed, envy and jalosy. It is sad bad politicians just use etinic hatred to advance their narrow agendas and forget pakistan. Sindhis hate MQM but its not MQM people problem. Loosers instead of fonding fault in correcting just blame others.
Any way request for all keep to topic discussed and magzine can make section for all Pehalavans of India and Pakistan mud ring and they can get in mud and whip each other.
Again hope comments are regarding ``
The Massacre at Bajaur
S. Farooq Hasnat
November 5, 2006

And I feel Gandhi and Jinnah both had no hand in Massacre at Bajaur by Air machines, it may be by usa but General is trying to keep false drama that PIA slaughterd religious students. Pakistani army will just refuse to do that and this just not possible. I feel sad general is putting bad stuff on army to save anger of people against america. He can not go on deciving all people , and people feel sad as they understand what is going its classic ``Majburi``.
Anyway hope request Behram, Mantoji, Arjunji, Devji and all other soldiers to follow rules of war and stick to subject.Now all this are perfect gentl;emen studied in usa and are good enough to allowed by usa govt to work there for exceptional high tech skills so hope they follow american way of polite and smile.
Have good day for everybody.

#various besharm

Indians are the most enterprising group in US. see below:

WASHINGTON: Indian immigrants to the United States account for 28 per cent of all foreign-founded private start-up companies in a climate dominated by migrant entrepreneurship, according to a new study.

The study found that over the past 15 years, immigrants have started 1 in 4 (25 percent) US public companies that were venture-backed, representing a market capitalization of more than $500 billion. Topping that, a survey of private, venture-backed start-up companies in the US estimated that a staggering 47 percent have immigrant founders.

In that group, ``India was the most prevalent country of origin with 28 percent followed by the United Kingdom (11 percent), China (5 percent), Iran (4 percent), and France (4 percent),`` the study says. No numbers were given for public venture-backed firms, but even in that category, ``the most common countries of origin are India, Israel and Taiwan.``

The findings back the long-held view, based on more limited surveys in Silicon Valley, that Indian immigrants are a significant force in America’s start-up culture. Indians have been founding companies in the U.S even outside Bay area for decades, going back to Amar Bose`s Bose Corp in Massachusetts and Suhas Patil’s Cirrus Logic in Utah.

The study also found that immigrant founders are responsible for building a high percentage of the most innovative American companies, with 87 percent operating in sectors such as high-tech manufacturing, information technology and life sciences. These companies are headquartered across the country but are concentrated in five states: California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Washington and Texas.

Nearly half of the immigrant entrepreneurs in the current nationwide survey (46 percent) arrived in the US as students, the study says. More than half of the founders started their businesses within 12 years of entering the US They hold an average of 14.5 patents. Sixty-nine percent of these individuals have become American citizens.

Authors of the survey cited this to emphasize the need for the United States to remain open for legal immigration and higher work visa quotas.

I understand the golden rule of interaction today;)

Write all irrational & hateful sentences and round them off with a `Respectfully Submitted` phrase - like a TRUE Ghulam does - then the post becomes a decent one.

GREAT!

Re: # 567

Another point:

These phrases were taught by the Britishers to Indians to exemplify the Master-Servant relation between them and us. These are getting outmoded in India but the Neuter is still enamoured of these Ghulami phrases.

Disrespectufully Submitted.

#565 by behram1 on November 15, 2006 11:26am PT

retardo....what about the names of the companies run by pakis? (p.s. you`ll have to do better than small time contractors like behram engineers to match up cirrus logic or tibco)...

#531 by behram-baba

[Pakistanis, for the most part believe in having their own small business environment, and hindoos don`t. Hindoo Land has trained a naukri mentality, and that is fact. Otherwise, with the numerical advantage that hindoos have, why would you not find more hindoos in small professional businesses? Why is that? ]

Further to my previous post....

I see regularly that my American colleagues are reluctant to hire Mooslas. Their situation is like the Jews. Jews took to business because the Christians would not hire them.

There are a couple of differences, though. Mooslas are not as smart as the Jews, nor as peace-loving as the Jews.

Christians were VERY wrong to have discriminated against the Jews.
Christians are TOTALLY JUSTIFIED for discriminating against the Mooslas. After all, who wants a jehadi diaper-head in his company?

Eh?

:)

#531 by behram-baba

[Pakistanis, for the most part believe in having their own small business environment, and hindoos don`t. Hindoo Land has trained a naukri mentality, and that is fact. Otherwise, with the numerical advantage that hindoos have, why would you not find more hindoos in small professional businesses? Why is that? ]

This is a good point. Every time I go to a smalltime cellphone seller, it is run by Mooslas. Someone tells me that the reasons are twofold - lack of education, and the fact that Americans are reluctant to hire mooslas. Who wants a pedophile-worshipping jehadi-type in their company, Eh?

And the Moosla-run businesses never expand into anything big. Because for that you need brains. And Mooslas have camel-dung for brains. :)

misc by behram-baba

behram-baba,

Don`t listen to the Hindoos. Only you mooslas are right. That is the first thing. Secondly, don`t let the Hindoos criticize your septic tank-cleaning business. It is a good business. :)

Just because the Hindoos work in NASA and Microsoft and are CEOs in firms like Motorola means nothing. The septic tank business is what counts. If you cannot dig a ditch with your own hands, then what kind of an engineer are you? Eh?

Carry on the good work. And go easy on the garlic. One thing about Mooslas is their bad breath. It`s from eating cow intestine with garlic.

Otherwise, mooslas are MUCH better than Hindoos. Even if the diaper-heads are not well educated.

I was reading somewhere that an engineering degree from Pakiland is like a 8-th grade education in India. But you are right, what`s the point studying too much if you are opening your own business cleaning septic tanks?

Eh?

:)

Re: # 562by krishna_abcd on November 15, 2006 9:27am PT

Lord krishna:

You are beginning to learn how to post in a civilized way, and that is a good thing. Actually, you are even learning my style, and that is also a good thing.

What you are unable to learn, however, is how not to be hateful. You constantly bring in religion etc. which has nothing to do with the present discussion. I can understand that being a hindoo, you may be autistic (or a bipolar?), and hence stuck in your diatribe.

But, once again, the point is not lost to most people who chose to come to this site, yet they chose not to interact. That is right because I am making valid arguments that Pakistan has been producing good quality engineers, and most of them are in their own businesses.

Once again, Pakistanis are fortunate to differentiate ourselves from those who have come Hindoo Land. Heck, even hindoos from Sri Lanka do not like people from Hindoo Land.

{I see regularly that my American colleagues are reluctant to hire Mooslas. Their situation is like the Jews. Jews took to business because the Christians would not hire them. }

Now that logic is kinda twisted. Only numerical minorities may go into their own business (true for the Jews), and muslims do have numerical advantage. Actually, for muslims to be in their own business is because their holy prophet was in his own business, and as such it is considered as sunnat-e-rasool, which a hindoo, who is hateful like yourself will chose to not understand.

The answer to why most people from Pakistan chose business over employment is because we have more dignity than your ilk from the Hindoo Land. Look at Sardarijis from your society, they have too much dignity to be somebodies naukar. And this behaviour should be clear to you. Hindoos from Hindoo Land are just made for ghulaami.

And what better way than to be corporation`s ghulaam.

But, when you come to the real engineers. Those who are civil engineers, and work with mother earth, and interact with the people, you see humanity. Hindoos who have always worked inside corporations can never see what it takes to build a canal, and irrigate mother earth. And peeing is not what I mean by irrigation.

And when you want to build a super highway, you interact with local people to see who would lose their houses to eminent domain laws that the attorney`s have instituted, and the big corporate wigs (but not the engineer).

Engineers do not hate. But, you and your hindoos from Hindoo Land are consumed with hate. And the reason is obvious that you are not in touch with humanity.

Respectfully submitted,

#560 behramji, i dispute your list but do not dispute if you should include taxi services to the list.

So how many hindoo owners of structural engineering firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

How many hindoo owners of civil engineering firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

Or hindoo owners of surveying firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

Or hindoo owners of architectural firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

Or hindoo owners of mechanical engineering firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

Or hindoo owners of electrical engineering firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

Or hindoo owners of plumbing engineering firms do we find in the west? None, zilch, nada.

No wonder hindoo land has lousy infrastructure, and have no indoor plumbing. Hindoo land is nothing but a land of squatters.

Just to prove another point of ingenuity. Why are there more hits on this site from the hindoo lot that discussing about their own shenanigans on the site where conditions of Indians muslims are being discussed, eh!

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There are more hits on the other site, yet less interacts compared to this site.

Indian Muslims by Aparna Pande hits: 11900 interacts: 403

The Massacre at Bajaur by S. Farooq Hasnat hits: 11696 interacts: 558

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May be it just shows that hindoo land have their priority all screwed up, eh!

The latest figures from the census bureau are out.

As anyone with more than one brain cell(which leaves behram out) can see, the numbers for Indians and Pakistanis speak for themselves...

People with graduate or professional degrees
Indians: 36%
Pakis: 23%

People in management, professional and related occupations
Indians: 61%
Pakis: 42%


And here`s the kicker...

Median household income (dollars)
Indians: 73,575
Pakis: 53,127

People on food stamp benefits aka welfare
Indians: 2.7%
Pakis: 4.5%


Per capita income (dollars)
Indians: 33,431
Pakis: 20,630

Poverty rate:
Indians: 8.4%
Pakistanis: 14.7%


Owner-occupied housing units
OWNER CHARACTERISTICS

Indians: 363,100
Pakis: 297,200



Bottom line: regardless of manto`s brother in law and retardo`s smalltime contracting business, Indians make more money and are better educated.

post 556...please read 3rd line as:-

``but if he wanted, he ``could`` very well tear up our assertions``

rgds,

devkant.

harish bhai...specifics will never come. only abuses, lies and insults are going to come. after having all his claims refuted, yasser bhai goes on to say that he has nothing more to answer, but if ``could`` very well tear up our assertions.

now what would you make of that????

rgds,

devkant.

#499 by Yasser

Now given that there may be atleast 2000-5000 ``big`` corporations in North America.... and there are 1-100 Pakistanis in each... then my number of 10s of thousands of Pakistani Engineers is quite accurate isn`t it?

And pray tell us how is that? In my 8 years, I never saw more than 5-10 Paki engineers in any of the companies I worked in, and in some, I never saw any Pakis at all. So how do the numbers add up?

Besides, you boasted to everyone that you`d come back with the specifics. Are these assumptions all you have? Some ``specifics`` they are!

monto bhai....551...

if you are going to put assertions i never made in my mouth, and then on the basis of that you claim that you have ahcieved victory, then i think you are very hollow.

i have not written anything to rehash that as a victory. if you can`t produce facts then back off. stop putting words into my mouth.

you get the gdp BS when this was never brought up in the first place, claim some sort of victory and then go about painting the town red by saying that you have nothing to prove, but you ``could`` still tear down our assertions.

grow up kid...you ain`t fooling anywhere here. either produce facts or admit that they don`t exist. stop beating around the bush.

rgds,

devkant.

this is too good. even pakkistani papers report on achievements on indian cos. surely be-haram....this must be some sort of hindoo conspiracy...isn`t it?????

TCS gets $100m deal from US firm’

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006 11 15 story_15-11-2006_pg5_21

and just for be-haram....and old economy indian company making waves even in your pakistani newspapers: -

India’s ONGC Videsh strikes oil in Iran block

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006 11 15 story_15-11-2006_pg5_19

rgds,

devkant.

``#500 by Mantolives on November 14, 2006 5:56am PT
I have no time for your ``fluid goal posts`` though I am sure I could take apart those assertions as well. ``

monto bhai....how many times have we heard `could have`, `will do`, `will get back with specifics` etc etc etc from you.

admit it dude....you guys have nothing against us. if you did have answers to our questions posed to you so many times till now (latest in 497), you would have got back to us the very day they were posted. but 1 week down and no answers....only abuses, insults, lies and crap.

dude....this just proves that you have been wasting time or searching for the answers and not found anything. but unfortunately your inflated jinnah type ego will not let you admit defeat against anyone...especially against indians whom you hate from the bottom of your heart.

rgds,

devkant.

Re: # 548

Dear Devkant,

It is not victory or defeat. You backed out of your assertions. Thats all. No need to write copious posts to rehash that as some sort of victory yaar.

#540 by okhla99 on November 14, 2006 10:13pm PT


Just to portray Muslims & Pakistan in a poor light.


Right...Paki terrorists being busted, paki madrassahs being bombed by the CIA, pakis at gitmo etc don`t portray pakis in a bad light...madani`s posts does....

Re: # 545
I had no good opinion about engineers in general as they feel they are too smart. They cheat all time and do no work, work as office cleark and why people should pay them so much. They sit in places in Karchi Elec...s co. and just ok bills and charge wrong bills ( more or less) depending upon what he gets in bills. or Wapada or tel co etc. All work is done is done by contractors and technicians and computers like printing bills etc. They do everything except engg. Now I have never understood why they can not fix pumping plant at D.Ji place. Always main line bursting or pump failure. Many are common criminals and retards. They in alliance with contractors on regular basis blow up transformers at critical times so contractor gets emmergency work and engineering babu gets extra work.
Now water dam building is not bad. Contractorrs and engineers will love to like such works as when such work starts contractor and retard engineer will work till they die( Its lifes work). Building takes 25 years and so called maintenance take 200 years. Now no tech money is better. Now this retard engineering babus can not provide sufficient water to economical capital of Pakistan and few miles away all water is going uselessly to arabian sea. Engineering thing are scondrels they always say they are trying to save money of people and they cry with peoples miseries etc and at night thet party with contractors and okey all bills. Now they are so corroupt that you can not imagine. When I was working I need to go provide money as not corrouption , ( gentleman do not try to corroupt others) but as lubrication to work. Without lubrication no engine works but some times its problem. How much to give Lube, you give less nothing moves, you give much then future lubrican required goes up and up.
Also forn gone engineers are not good. When they go from here they are middle class poor people but when they return to find bride they behave as they are some Nabab or Sultans from arabia. The man is dark, rough looking and ugly but wants white looking, good figure woman and he smokes state express or 707 he is damn figure problem and he behaves as he is president of company. He damn exploits poor daughters family, lives and eats like hog. Even local engineering boys behave strange way. Once our relative was looking for groom to send his daughter to her owner/ husband. So boy came to visit us, he was ugly looking , dark Urdu type and had big midsection ( women hate it) but women are like cows all type ``Majbur``. I asked respectfully ( even though i felt bride will not like to have children looking like him) .....ji `` how much salary`` you earn per month. He gave figure I had pain in my stomach, so small, then i said young lady is used to little higher standard of living and is only girls of 6 sibling so little spoilt and will not cheap or frugal lady of house. The man laughed like lion and said Madanisahib `` aap oldtimer ko samazata nahi`` This just pocket money. Now wise people of IT educated people do not need more explaination.

Other was engineer incident which felt sad to mind. I have good family friend and he became son in law of american pakistani. I went to visit their place also to see american boy, he was also dark compared to wife. He was drinking beer which is pretty costly. Then I asked about this madbehaviour for believer. He told me he can not drink water from Karachi as it is contaminated. I told him he can boil water and drink but he did not like. His wife my friends daughter told me he does drink only one beer after work to unwind but he drinking like elephant as it free. So that is other engineering articulating taste and behaviour.
But really I am angry as I have taught some retard engineers tution in Maths end engg and they always forget to paid me and leave to usa. Fortunately in marriage market engg babus demand is down even if from usa and some beautiful women are teaching lessons and taking them to school. They are outright rejecting such abnoxious immature boys cum men for being too dark, too fat, too poor, no communication skills, not smart etc. But IT boys can steal women beyond their real value. But Marriage market is not bad as this engineers are egos are cut to size. I tell women/young bargain for best what you can buy but once married then its family. Any way IT is not engineer as they are not billing or okeying billing. Also they do not like to read and too serious and too ``prowdy`` type. They criticize good words and want to be hooligan and bad boys. I always feel bad for women caste as they have to compromise just to become wife and for children future have to continue with with bad men and continue with old age to have protection again with sons.
Any way if you collect all engineers from pakistan and line them to be shot or to throw them in Arabin see for sharks pakistan will work fine, it is working with corroupt engineers they will work even better without corruption people.
Good day.

Re: # 549
In think in High tech world money/lubrication is done by computers. But in my misspent youth notech corrouption had style that you can not have in Hi Tech.

Once I was teaching young man how this things are to be done. I had to give money to Electrical company person and we always use to do in style.
I went see engg babu, he was not there, so we sat for some time and finally Engineering Sahib came. After some time peon came said saabne andhre bulaya hay. So I went inside and told his people are unnecessarirly troubling for illeagal connections etc creating ``big`` problems. And i want to work with his company people so they stop making trouble. And I am ready to any favor asked and said 3000Rs are here in envelope. ( now 3000rs was big sum at that time). He became irate and said what Nonsense you are talking, I do not care for money and extremely mad. Then I said I am sorry and put envelope on his table to and beagn to leave, then he said do not try to corroupt me, I do not care throw that haram money in garbage bin outside room. I did as directed and left with young man. Then I explained this style the things are done. I said that 3000 will be picked by peopn. He wanted to thrpow out so all other gangs knows how much I gave. So no quarrel afterwards. It will be divided by complex equation and its not our concern. Young man learnt first lesson in ethics and style. No Tech was more classical for sure. I lamet gone good old days.

#540 by okhla99

Why do I get the feeling that you are an Indian Chowkie pretending to be not??? Just to portray Muslims & Pakistan in a poor light. Such extreme extremism appears to be highly contrived.

Yaar Okhla, this gentleman claims he is from Karachi and has been on Chowk for quite some time now. Old-timers on Chowk are definitely not surprised to see his views, only newcomers like you are. Please read some of this other interacts to get a feel of his views on just about anything under the sun.

#539 by ahmedmadani on November 14, 2006 10:03pm PT

awesome..that was a madani classic...

#539 by ahmedmadani

Hello mr. ahmedmadani,

How are you today? Is the depression acting up? Have you fed your goats today?

[I am not for high tech low tech but for notech business things as there is more profit in notech.]

Such a true statement, my dear sir! So true! Look at behram-baba. Putting in a honest day`s work digging ditches and everything. And here comes these hindoos, the perpetual detractors of the good moooslums. Who do they think they are? Educated or something? Why do stupid hindoos think that just because they are educated, that septic-tank cleaning is a bad profession? Look at behram-baba. Has his own septic-tank cleaning business. And the hindoos think they are so smart working for NASA and Microsoft!

The hindoos will never be as good as the moooslums, I tell you. No houris for them. Or Ghilmans. By the way, what do you intend to do with YOUR Ghilmans? Do tell.

Sincerely,

krishna

Re: # 541
i HAVE TWO CATS. nO GOATS. tHEY HAVE FINE WHITE, MILK WHITE COATS. bOTH ARE BEST EXAMPLE OF WHAT BEAUTIFUL FELINE CAN BE.
Cats, tigers, lions, leopards are most beautiful things on earth living. They have good pride in themselves. They are not slavish like dogs. Dogs you can hit abuse and still will be loyal. My cats feel I am just born to feed them and pet them and scratch under chin. They have best fur coat, all white fur. I should give them picture then lot of people will feel shame of their ugly cats. Want to avoid situation

Re: # 546 by ahmedmadani

mr. ahmedmadani,

Are your cats muslim?

Re: # 547

Cats are not inferior type animals like dog. For dog his owner is god/dog. There is no difference betwen dog and god. You read either way arabian camel way from right to left or other hindu way its same.. Dog look at you as god. So they are both muslims and hindus and all types.
Cats have no problems of that inferiority complex or feeling of inadequacies to seach for god or devils. They feel men and women are born just to serve them and they look down upon humans. Also they are happy and content. They have reached ``nirvana``. They are unbelivers so no religion and its problems. They are happy about themselves.
Dogs are both hindu and muslims and all are unhappy.

#537 by behram1 on November 14, 2006 7:43pm PT

hello inbred retard: we`re all waiting for you to name some of your famous paki-run old economy companies...

the fact of the matter is that behram is a small time contractor who only gets small jobs because of affirmative action..

no amount of self-deluding by the inbred retard will change this fact...

#531 by behram1 on November 14, 2006 4:52pm PT


I have always maintained that working for a hi-tech company as a code coolie is nothing to brag about.


Sure retardo...and the voices in your head agree with you...the facts, on the other hand...

#531,
Does other line of DMZ means self employed? If so, then no one has made that claim.
I cannot imagine that all engineering employees at Parsons or ABB or McDermott or KBR are worthless paper pusher and the only reason these companies are successful is because they hire consultant.
To be a consultant one needs skills to market onself and obtain projects along with engineering skills. Not all engineers are comfortable with that. That is why they prefer to work for a company rather than starting their own consulting business.

Your ``most part`` argument falls flat as you do not have any number to base that claim on.

irony of this PE`s in Texas debate is the the Chairman of the board that makes decisions regarding PE`s in Texas is a gujju bhai.:)

Re: # 533
This is saddest thing that Indians are deciving american people and that man must be selling PE degrees as most gujaratis are salesman at heart and cheat.I heard Texas people are cowboy tipe hot tempered but not smart like newyork or washinton city. They so shrewd they will,take out your gold tooth and you will thank them. It is sad things of coming of white race that they accept control by dark hindus. White countries are going down. I do not know but how shameless dutch, English have become. First they accepted mr. Mittal as develish looking dark Indian , a sindhi hindu who promised good things and then screwed workers by firing them and closing steel plants and firing people and saying over that he is ``right sizeing`` factory and then spending 23 million on his daughters marriage. The dutch and English whose fore fathers ruled india and fear in minds of Indians ( gandhi that little ugly man made vanish fear in hearts of millions) whose queenVictoria was proclaimed ``kaiser -E-Hind`` have accepted Mittal as their savior something is wromg in these people. They should feel ashamed. Now little indian tata company takes again british steel company. It is really shame that dirt poor poor are given passport to loot wealth. So europe steel making controlled by dark hindus. If it was Japan or China or Korea is ok as they are almost white race and have lots of good things. I think Europe is down going fast. One needs to give credit america they have not allowed mittal or Tata take us steel making business. Question why Pakistan govt start campaign to inform about Indians and their attitude of making american unemployed.
I have great honor to have person like Mr. Beheram who is employing american and supporting american families. I hope he does not employ Indians as if they employ they will know all tricks of business and copy and start same. They have bad habit of biting feeding hand. American kids send free computers to poor indian boys and schools and they mastered it and displaced jobs of american dads and moms as all job went to banglore. And now amrican have lost strength and giving more nd more work indians.
I am not for high tech low tech but for notech business things as there is more profit in notech. Hightech has only made people unemployed and useless. There are most little business people in Karachi who make money in millions of dollars and invest in Gulf but they will not show wealth but keep quite. America and white nations are making big mistakes by giving medical tourism to India. That more better business to greedy indian health professionals as they will cut bodies of white people and get money for it. This dangerous move as then Indians will make too much money. This money can easily exceed IT money and can lead to more wealth in medical service sector. When unchecked Indians went ahead made now lots of money in IT sector. Medical tourism can be worst it can create more than 5 times that and its bad as that will result in more aggresive indian military.
What our people need to leave hindus where they want, cut relationship and ask them to go home and our people home. Here we allowed Indians and now they control this medium and criticise us all time. One way is to keep india of Out of site and slowly out of mind. I hope this newspaper can do that. We shpuld react with Persians, arab, iraquis, muslims and no indians. There are over 50 mations of Ummah, UMS ( United Muslim States), let ask 50 nations to people write here, we shuld invite them. We need to move away from India. oNE WAY IS SLOWLY INTRODUCE ARABIC AS A NATIONAL LANGUAGE. Unfortunately Hindi and urdu are almost same loike lions and cats same. Some how we need muslims other than Irp citizens contributing to this paper and indian contribution max to 2%. Why not take interest in emerging things in THILQAND ETC.
tIME TO SAY GOOD BYE TO iNDIA AND WELCOME MEMBERS OF mUSLIM uMMAH, AND india out of site and then OUT OF MIND, THEH LEARN aRBIC AND BECOME ARAB SKPEAKING COUNTRY. NEED TOGO WILL WRITE TOMORROW.

Re: # 539

Why do I get the feeling that you are an Indian Chowkie pretending to be not??? Just to portray Muslims & Pakistan in a poor light. Such extreme extremism appears to be highly contrived.

#531 behramji, you have made many loose assertions, admirably (HP is very impressed) forcefully, but not proven or supported them. then you saw a slew of data contrary to your assertions.

one assertion from me is code-coolie industry is prolly has the largest number of independent contractors and small consulting houses.

maybe its time to resort to those sugarcanes and hindu-girls argument?

Re: # 532 by ModiForPM on November 14, 2006 6:38pm PT

Responding to all-in-one from hindoo land:

{Does other line of DMZ means self employed?} No, the other side of DMZ line is the area where hi-tech code coolies assert that they are engineers, and here in my state, they are not. So much for the argument, extended by your lot, that Pakistan does not have good engineering educational system. Actually, As I have proven to you that Pakistani engineers are better than Indians.

{I cannot imagine that all engineering employees at Parsons or ABB or McDermott or KBR are worthless paper pusher and the only reason these companies are successful is because they hire consultant.}

Well, maybe not all, but all Indians are. Otherwise why take refuge in large numbers? Engineers by definition has to be independent and freedom loving. Keep an eye of whom I define as engineers. Have you ever had a chance to talk with Civil Engineers? or for that matter Structural Engineers?

You will find that they are not the usual lotta that you find amongst Indians. Face it, there are no Indian who can match the freedom loving engineers from Pakistan. Large companies have what is called inertia. And all of these companies that you have named has a huge contractor side besides it, and they buy projects because of financial arm to it. No, they can never produce the best engineering practices than the small nibbling engineering consultant. Just look at most of the engineering associations and you will rarely find the bureaucrats of these large conglomerates.

Besides, none of these are Indians. Why? When in the high-tech code coolie environment, your hindoo folks can incessantly brag about Wipro, Tata, etc., what went wrong in the old economy engineering business. We never heard of any Indian consulting engineering firm building a Jubail City in Saudi Arabia. Why?

Because Indian engineers are useless, and most who enter the profession want to become paper pushers in large corporations. Again, Indians are infested in lower tiers of any reputable engineering corporation. Private, these large corporations maybe, but they still are bureaucratic. And what happens in any bureaucracy, Indians remain like an old furniture.

It is not useful even to consider these people are engineers any more, because all they want is a paycheck and run home exactly at five. Will you ever get any invention out of folks like these. Never.

Heck, the Indians, who are stuck in academia can barely get their classes filled. They have not written a single book that is taught in the engineering world. Yes, they have ``day chaapo`` from other authors and stolen ideas from other renowned engineers.

{To be a consultant one needs skills to market onself and obtain projects along with engineering skills. Not all engineers are comfortable with that. That is why they prefer to work for a company rather than starting their own consulting business. }

Agreed, and that is exactly my point. But, this should be true with Pakistani engineers as well, don`t you agree? Why do we not see more Indians in the true engineering professional businesses?

{Your ``most part`` argument falls flat as you do not have any number to base that claim on.}

Yes agreed, because small consulting engineers are by definition unaccounted for, and all the more reason that Pakistani engineers are so enterprising. Incidentally, why is Tata Consultancy not competing for the over $50B Trans Texas Corridor? Because Tata consultancy is not in this kind of engineering, eh!

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{#533 by dullabhatti on November 14, 2006 5:38pm PT
irony of this PE`s in Texas debate is the the Chairman of the board that makes decisions regarding PE`s in Texas is a gujju bhai.:)}

Yes, bhatti shaib, that is the whole irony. Your unelected sham democracy has taken the newer engineers on a wild goose chase. Heck, until the early 1980`s, your government did not allow graduate students to come to the US. Heck, very few hungry one who came were enamored by the hi-tech industry, and lost their engineering credibility. Or the luck few became a loquacious no-brainer ``kitaabi keera`` at some University.

Hindoo engineers are truly a lost and a wretched soul.

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{#532 by jang on November 14, 2006 5:16pm PT
#531 behramji, you have made many loose assertions, admirably (HP is very impressed) forcefully, but not proven or supported them. then you saw a slew of data contrary to your assertions. }

Of course your notion can not be taken seriously. You are from a land that has been our enemy from day one of its independence. Now you would not expect to be honest about your inner feeling towards a successful country like Pakistan, or do you?

Jangju, you are a jealous and an envious person, and you know that. It is OK to accept your true inner feeling towards those who are highly advanced than you are. And Pakistan is such a country.

{one assertion from me is code-coolie industry is prolly has the largest number of independent contractors and small consulting houses. }

Here you go as vibrating and as fluctuating as the other autistic hindoo. Once gain, focus on the definition of engineering, and which engineering business we are talking about.

{maybe its time to resort to those sugarcanes and hindu-girls argument?} Alright, I can certainly use that on appropriate occasion. But as it stands right now I am enjoying these cherished moment of humiliating your educational system.

I would never give up this style of argument where every fabric in your hindoo body is burning with hate and despair.

Respectfully submitted,

Dear Jang/Modi:

I have always maintained that working for a hi-tech company as a code coolie is nothing to brag about. Unfortunately, for most good indian engineers, they get stuck with these thoughts that somehow those on the other side of the DMZ line, somehow their shit does not stink. Or somehow if you are employed as a teacher in some University you are a better engineer.

Far from it. Those who work in some corporation and those who are employed in a university are the most useless engineers possible. Engineers are truly made when you work in a consulting environment and be almost on your own.

Do you get it now!

Otherwise it is truly a bogus argument for employees to make a lot of money than those of us who are self-employed. Now autistic people can get stuck with their level of thinking, but I suppose that the two of you are not autistic. Or are you?

It is a known fact that revenues/employee in any corporation is over $400,000 per year. And the average engineer, as an employee makes maybe $70,000/ year. What happens to the rest of the contribution that the employee has made? Corporation gets it, huh!

I have always been consistent in my argument against those who promote corporation`s welfare and not individual welfare. Pakistanis, for the most part believe in having their own small business environment, and hindoos don`t. Hindoo Land has trained a naukri mentality, and that is fact. Otherwise, with the numerical advantage that hindoos have, why would you not find more hindoos in small professional businesses? Why is that?

Respectfully submitted,

aww...sorry I had to rain in on the inbred retard self-delusion parade...


‘TCS gets $100m deal from US firm’

NEW DELHI: Top Indian software services firm, Tata Consultancy Services Ltd has won a $100 million contract from Kimberly-Clark Corp, a source close to the deal told Reuters on Tuesday, boosting its stock.

Dallas-based Kimberly-Clark, which makes Huggies diapers and Kleenex tissues, joins a rapidly growing number of foreign firms that outsource design work, supply chain management and payroll processing to India.

TCS officials could not be reached for comment, but the source said the contract would last for several years. Earlier this month, the firm said it had bagged a $90 million contract from Australia’s Qantas Airways Ltd.

“TCS is likely to outperform its peers and the index in the short-term, based on these order wins,” said an analyst who declined to be identified. He saw TCS climbing to 1,200-1,250 rupees in six to nine months based on its order backlog.

Shares in Tata Consultancy were 2.5 percent higher at 1,101 rupees, down from 1,107.8, in a flat Mumbai market. The stock was the second most active counter on the Mumbai exchange with 8.8 million shares changing hands.

Tuesday’s volume was the firm’s highest since Aug 25, 2004 when the stock listed and 13.07 million shares changed hands. TCS has a market value of $23.6 billion, making it the sixth-most valuable Indian stock.

India’s software and back-office industry, which gets 90 percent of its revenue from overseas clients, expects exports to rise 27-30 percent to $29-31 billion in the year to March 2007 as demand for outsourcing remains robust.

Attracted by a large pool of English-speaking engineers and significantly lower wage costs, the industry has been a driving force behind India’s strong economic growth of the last three years. The United States is the largest market for Indian software firms, accounting for more than 60 percent of sales.

Stocks get US leg up: Earlier in the day, India’s fifth-ranked HCL Technologies Ltd said it had formed a partnership with Canadian firm Celestica Inc.

The win added to general buoyancy in software stocks, which were anyway trading in positive territory following an overnight rise in prices of their American Depositary Receipts.

Second-ranked exporter Infosys Technologies Ltd. hit a new peak of 2,225 rupees as the domestic stock tracked a 3 percent rise on its Nasdaq-listed ADR.

Market darling Infosys, which enjoys the highest 11.52 percent weighting on the main index, was quoting 2.7 percent higher at 2,219.10 rupees. It was the top gainer on the marker that also hit an all-time high in early deals.

Infosys plans to convert about $1.5 billion of domestic stock into US-listed shares.

The Mumbai-based analyst said he expected TCS to narrow the discount between itself and Infosys based on forward price earnings multiple for the year to March 2007. reuters

behramji,

here are a couple..

PE number 73260 PATEL, HARSHAD KUMAR MANUBHAI
% K H CONSULTING & DESIGN

80538 JOSHI, NALIN HARILAL
N H JOSHI & ASSOCIATES INC

Modi..sure.

Behram,
You argue by asking data that is does not exist e.g. Indians with PE. No one gathers that kind of data so its just hard to refute your arguments.
Now, you came up with new argument i.e. asking list of Indians with P.E. that own a consulting business.

Behram,
You said that indians are good only at coding but not at engnineering. Thus, I gave you the list of Indians with P.E.
Also, I do not understand your quest that only if you start a consulting business then you are bright otherwise you are a rat. To finish a project (be it designing a pressure vessels or designing an cad module i.e. coding) requires skills. Your assertion that one is idiot until they start business is itself an idiotic. Next thing one can compare is how many Indians are in top management of a company. To name a few would be CEO of Pepsi, Vinod Khosla of Sun Microsystems.

Projects in middle east have always favoured american or european companies because of the political connections of those companies.

Anyone who suggest that engineering is only in software while not in other fields like mechanical, civil, structural or electrical are ignorant. I dont see any Indians claiming that.

#521 jang,
so you agree that there are lot of indians with P.E.

#522 by behram1

`` it is your autistic hindoo baradari who were suggesting that engineering is only the hi-tech code coolie baradari.``

Behram,

You are meticuleously and steadfastly destorying all the fantasies these code coollies hold dear to their hearts. I think you must have by now realized that these code coolies believe that copy pasting code from different programmers` forums is engineering!

#516 by okhla99 on November 14, 2006 12:12pm PT


Are you blind? Indians make 40% more than Pakis...And the spread in the number of degree holders is almost 10%..

If you think that`s a trivial difference, maybe you should ask your boss for a 40% pay cut...or a 10% increase in the cost of health care...

#520 by behram1 on November 14, 2006 1:55pm PT



But, how many of them are in their own consulting business?


your consulting business is just a small time contracting company...

Modi,

http://www.tbpe.state.tx.us/search_pe.asp


i found 3 modis, 15 singhs and 12 gupta, 6 murthy, 4 joshi in texas with this. there were too many patels, and one Patelski, John Raymond.

Re: # 521 by jang on November 14, 2006 2:08pm PT

So, ????

And all of them are employees of some big firm, yes?

{i found 3 modis, 15 singhs and 12 gupta, 6 murthy, 4 joshi in texas with this. there were too many patels, and one Patelski, John Raymond.}

Why do you guys have no guts to start your own business, eh?

Array, jangju, are also autistic, just like that other idiot from India?

Re: #518 by ModiForPM on November 14, 2006 1:47pm PT

{Hopefully you will realize that there are lot of Indians with P.E. certificate. }

Agreed with your assertion. But, how many of them are in their own consulting business?

Why do I not find every 8 Indians to every 1 Pakistani? eh!

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#517 by muqaddam on November 14, 2006 1:37pm PT

Array o! soorma from the college of choutias in Delhi: What has gotten into you? Trying to act as some big wig, eh! Jawab nahin tau gaalam galoch uh!

{Be-herami No.1 is back with a stink, puking all the pent up anti India and anti Hindoo muck. Time to clean up the Chowk by throwing out this filthy stinking rotting garbage. }

Yes, getting rid of you would be a good start.

#515
http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/wllqryna$lcev2.startup?p_qte_code=ENG&p_qte_pgm_code=7500
copy paste the link in your internet explorer and then search for Professional Engineers with indian sounding last name like Patel (300+) or Shah (130+) and you will find a lot. This is just a sample of gujarati last names.
Hopefully you will realize that there are lot of Indians with P.E. certificate.

Be-herami No.1 is back with a stink, puking all the pent up anti India and anti Hindoo muck. Time to clean up the Chowk by throwing out this filthy stinking rotting garbage.

#501

Thnx Arjun,
It is obvious that Pakistanis & Indians have the highest educational qualifications compared to people from other countries.

Just goes to prove my belief that the two are more similar than different.

Re:krishna_abcd

[...I think you should see a doctor about your bipolar disorder....]

I may be bipolar but you are certainly unipolar in your dedicated hatred. I may lose my temper based on some recent event of terrorism but you wish for muslim annihilation, day in and day out.

Probaly you are a Kashmiri Pandit because only they seem to have the dedicated level of vitriol that you have, such as Arun Shourie.

By the way, thanks for validating my assumption that you would reply to me laced with insults, since that comes naturally to you.

#487 by okhla99

[``24 hour water supply`` typo may most kindly be condoned. Inconvenience caused is regretted.]

Okay good. Your article actually makes the point I am making. Even in Bangalore, which has the worst water problem in the country, 35% of the population get round the clock water. Also, that didn`t stop Bangalore from being the outsourcing capital of the world, now did it? I have never lived in an Indian city where I did not have round the clock water. Some people in every city may not get it, but although it`s not perfect, it hasn`t slowed down our progress.

#507 by behram1 on November 14, 2006 7:20am PT

When people want chips designed, they go to Indians..

When people want a ride to the airport, they call pakis...or, in your case, when they want some wiring installed in their homes....

#508 by overlord on November 14, 2006 7:24am PT



by the time Pak will reach 500 million population, we will have one there I promise. Infact sooner. Much sooner.


If the population of pigs reaches 500 million, they`ll eventually grow wings and fly...

#491 by ranjit

[Believe me, I have no intentions to associate with you. ]

I would find it easier to believe that when you quit addressing me and stop using the words ``us`` and macaca``.

Do you get it?

[Carry on with your pathetic postings by cutting and pasting road photographs, as if you are scoring great points against Manto. ]

If you want to be jerking Manto off, go do it in private. And keep your boneheaded opinions to yourself.

[Sorry, I cannot stoop to your level of debating since you just keep insulting whoever you disagree with while continously repeating outrageous statements. Debating requires the capability to listen and analyze other people`s point of view - something that you have yet to learn. ]

I think you should see a doctor about your bipolar disorder. At times you are busy advocating total annihilation all the Muslims. At times you are a JNU jholawala type lefty liberal. Go get your brain checked.


[By the way, before you ask, I am a hindu of sindhi background, brahmin caste, who attended IIT Delhi. I am mentioning that before you start insulting my background, as per your habits. :-) ]

I don`t give a damn if you are a Sindhi Brahmin or not, worshipping Jhoolelal or whatever nonsense that you guys do. While IIT has its own share of morons (in the non-academic realm), your kind of idiocy is not easy to come by. Which year did you graduate? B.Tech., M.Tech. or something else? What major?

It would be interesting to find out how someone who did his undergraduate from Delhi IIT turned out to be such a jackass.

If you absolutely have to butt in and pontificate, pontificate to other idiots like yourself.

behramji, i cant speak for everyone, but being a PE was generally not in the plans for most indians showing-up in the US. they aspired to be rocket-scientist, to do cutting-edge research, startups, hi-tech ventures etc...some succeeded, and some cut code while making good money for arjuns charts. we have our borthers stuck in industries like construction (bechtel, one of the largest was prolly 30% indian engg), but that was never considered as the frontier of human endevour. for pakis like you a PE and a state-board license to practice is indeed high achievement, you stand tall amongst your other brothers and many kudos to you. hamid also talks of another great achiever like you who has a lawn-sprinkler installation bussiness, a very successful guy who also has a certification from ASS (association of sprinkler systems). we leave our small bussiness to our patels...they are far more talented than our engineers and they pretty much control hotels, subways and quiznos.

so in summary, your state-license is a great achievement, as is written in the holy book, each to his own, and do you have a bussiness card with Er. as a title? you should scan and post it here so we can all admire it.

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If you dont think construction is frontier of endeavour than please visit few new cities in Saudi Arabia. Those cities (not just one or two buildings) were built by Bechtel. They had lot of american engineers along with Indian engineers.

Re: # 519 by ModiForPM on November 14, 2006 1:53pm PT

You must first learn to understand what the argument is all about. Actually, it is your autistic hindoo baradari who were suggesting that engineering is only the hi-tech code coolie baradari. By your response it seems that you disagree.

And your reply to Jang is appropriate

{Re: # 509
If you dont think construction is frontier of endeavour than please visit few new cities in Saudi Arabia. Those cities (not just one or two buildings) were built by Bechtel. They had lot of american engineers along with Indian engineers. }

Yet, I have been arguing that being employed at big shops is almost getting a job in the government. Is it not? What is the big deal to be another rat for Bechtel? Do you know what it takes to build Jubail city in S. Arabia? that incidentally was designed and built by Ralph M. Parsons. But you will not hear any hindoo land company doing such big projects.

Why? How many hindoos would you find having their own consulting engineering business?

Are Hindoos destined to remain muslims naukar?