What Went Wrong?

a simple but true answer, no one wants to make a buck out of a world war (sort of). But offering a true and 100% practiceable planning free of charge and then ready to take of, means high offices can handle the problems themselves.

so why in this odd world, one should make ones self with solid knees, just for continued problem solving techniques, that makes the issues get solved, for free ?

Zeemax sahib,


(Certainly. So I guess there must still be a lot of them gratefully left over which will come in handy when all the stuff like Natural Gas, Ethane, plastics, Diesel, Gasoline, Kerosene, LPG, Lubricating oils, Paraffin wax, Tar/Bitumen, asphalt, sulphuric acid etc etc are no longer available. Can anyone imagine finding alternates for all or even most of these? )

No, stones wont be a substitute for hydrocarbons but the human mind would be.

(My point was simply that 80% of the easily accessible hydrocarbon reserves lie in the M.E. The biggest users would be stupid if they didn`t try to control that part of the world.)

No, they aint and thats why USA is occupying Iraq and may want to occupy KSA in the future. I hope you will not then condemn USA, they are only doing the wise thing to do.

Regards

#51 by majumdar

Majumdar Saheb,

As they say, the Stone Age did not end because the world ran out of stones.

Certainly. So I guess there must still be a lot of them gratefully left over which will come in handy when all the stuff like Natural Gas, Ethane, plastics, Diesel, Gasoline, Kerosene, LPG, Lubricating oils, Paraffin wax, Tar/Bitumen, asphalt, sulphuric acid etc etc are no longer available. Can anyone imagine finding alternates for all or even most of these?

My point was simply that 80% of the easily accessible hydrocarbon reserves lie in the M.E. The biggest users would be stupid if they didn`t try to control that part of the world.

Re: # 50
[....the Iraqi men women and children ARE Not -- and THEY don`t deserve to die ...]

No they don`t... but Bush not the one who is killing them... iraqis are killing each other, they are brutalizing each other the way they have done for ages - in name of Mo, in name tribe, or just for the heck of it... Bush, for all his incompetencies, actually wants them to settle down and make a nation for themselves...

at this stage of the conflict - the sectarian massacres are iraqis own making... americans didn`t ask for it, americans are not abetting it... they are trying best to stop it...

Re: # 52
dear majumdar -- that post was written 4 years ago on Chowk -- 2 months before that Antichrist Mongoloid invaded Iraq -- part of the `prophesy` has come true in 4 years -- and the rest will come true in another 4 years.

Nasah the Chowk`s Nostradamus

Nasah,

(the United States goes after Islamist Extremists all over the world -- and delivers the Muslims of the world from this scourge -- he will be a Messiah a Mehdi for the Muslims of the world ushering them in the modern 21st century )

GWB`s mandate is to look after USA` interests, not Islam. And do you think it would be right for USA to decide what is good for Muslims interest and enforce them by use of arms?

Regards

Tahmed sahib/Zeemax sahib,

(If humans progress ends, it wont be because oil has run out. There are plenty of more realistic hazards to human progress and indeed to human existence. Those are the ones to be concerned about. )

Very true, ultimately human ingenuinity will determine humanity`s future. Who knows 50 years on, tech would have progressed to make energy using fusion, ocean thermal energy, solar etc. cheap. Far fetched but then 100 years back who would have thought that man would land on the moon.

As they say, the Stone Age did not end because the world ran out of stones.

Regards

#93 by nasah on January 22, 2003 7:30am PT
the opposition to war on Iraq -- is NOT a movement to support Saddam -- Saddam is a mass murderr -- HE IS a war criminal -- and deserves to die

the Iraqi men women and children ARE Not -- and THEY don`t deserve to die

the crowning moment of Bush`s presidency was -- when he busted the balls of Islamist extremists in Afghanistan and Liberated the men, women and children of Afghanistan from that medieval tyranny of Taliban --

On that mission -- millions of moderate Muslims were with him all the way -- and are still with him -- and will be with him if -- the United States goes after Islamist Extremists all over the world -- and delivers the Muslims of the world from this scourge -- he will be a Messiah a Mehdi for the Muslims of the world ushering them in the modern 21st century

but NOT an attack on moderate, relatively modern, secular educated Muslims of Iraq -- not on Iraqi people battered by a Gulf war ONE -- and 12 years of punishing inhuman SANCTIONS -- and daily BOMBINGS -- and 8 years of incessant DAILY inspections --

MY COUNTRY the United States of America -- SHALL NOT KILL -- 250000 already battered -- IRAQI MEN WOMEN and CHILDREN -- ONCE AGAIN --

to capture just ONE MAN.

IT WILL ONLY STRENTGHEN THE ISLAMIST EXTREMISTS -- ALL OVE THE WORLD.

IT WILL be the SAME BLUNDER -- the United States committed -- against the leftist regime of Afghanistan -- actively PROMOTING AND ARMING Jehadism in Afghanistan -- that destabilized the whole region for decades –

and resulted in -- 9/11.

If -- the Bush administration can force through this build up Saddam Hussein into EXILE -- that will be the SECOND FEATHER in the cap of Bush`s Presidency -- and the world will salute him once again --

but an actual WAR against Baghdad and the people of Iraq -- and the ensuing death and destruction of Iraq --

will be the DOOM AND DISGRACE OF bush`s regime –

and will bring him -- as a WAR CRIMINAL to the Hague -- by the end of the decade.

btw -- Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice -- are NO ``uncle Tom and auntie Tammy``-- they are the only voices of moderation -- among the cackles of -- the Chicken Hawks -- surrounding the Texas oil boy. (Chowk`s resident Nostradamus Nasah 4 years ago before the Iraq war)

While everyone is talking about oil and war and Iraq and sunni vs shia and economic progress or the lack thereof, let me throw in yet another vital factor to muddy up the equation.

Here is the URL to this fairly well done documentary An Inconvenient Truth by Al Gore. It is 96 minutes long, but well worth the time. It MUST be seen by every responsible, thinking person. I saw it in a movie theater for £6.95... Now, you can see it for free... (There is a tiny bit of political polemics in it also, but we can ignore that bit.)

Click on this weblink to watch the full length video.

...SR