Stagnating Pakistan-Iran Relations

This dear turkey Taiko’s stubbornness, his turkey-characteristic, in defending the maha-turkey – the country of Pakistan – and its mah-goons in khaki, is highly touching!

Gosh, the generals must be going all mushy – here is a true defender of Pakistan second only to its first defenders in khaki! (Is it spoils sharing time yet?!)

Guys like him are the ones who try to drown out the cries of the Mais by singing ``Dil, Dil, Paaakistaaan....`` hoping that the moans of the victims would get ignored in his din!

Such shameless hypocrites!

The root of problems between Iran and Pakistan is now what it has forever been – that famous Shia-Sunni divide! Now that the Pakistanis (read Sunnis) got the nukes – the Iranians are just as determined to get their hands on nukes as well – and are getting ready to do their own version of “thousand-year grass eating” act!

A “secular” Pakistan is an oxy-moron! But understanding this “fine” point may be asking too much from those who clearly lack the “oxy-“ part of it!

Need proof of moronity – just listen to the idiot talk of Bihar when the discussion is about Iran and the land of the Pure!

Who is this nut-case taikonut guy?... What`s this about ``Mega Agriculturalists`` and ``Mega-farms`` is he talking about?... I mean - over the years, we have heard all such of delusions from pakis - but never heard of this ``Mega-farms`` claim ?...

I read somewhere pakiland is in so bad shape that they are importing sugar or even wheat... so what Meg farms?...

#34 by mohar11 on December 2, 2006 10:57am PT

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What`s this about ``Mega Agriculturalists`` and ``Mega-farms`` is he talking about?...

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Just like Mega-Munshis Premji and Infosys, Pakistan has its own wealthy class that owns Mega-farms. For a Bihari this is a difficult concept. Just ask your Malyalam yum yum buddies and they may be able to help. However Bihari Hindi is too weak to understand these finer concepts.

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I read somewhere pakiland is in so bad shape that they are importing sugar or even wheat... so what Meg farms?...

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Welcome to the reality. 10 years of good farming followed by few years of poor yields. This is natural. But how would Bihari know about production, agri-yields, and farming? You spend all your time with Lallu Parsad sucking party or the Rubri mama.

Re: # 36

Dude - go easy on Lalu... He is supposed to be very friendly with you pakis... I heard you pakis went ga ga over him last time he was there :)... and he is also some sort of what you call ``agriculturalists``... so you guys may want to be in touch with him... you know, you guys seem to one of a kind...

And good luck with your ``mega farms``... Just curious - how is the export performance of your farming products?... I mean - For example, China is known for its manufacturing proucts, hinuds are known for their software services etc. etc.. ... as far as I know, pakiland is NOT exactly known for its farming products... or any other products for that matter... with all the mega agriculturalists and mega farms - you must be taking the world by storm with your farm products - right?...

#38 by mohar11 on December 2, 2006 12:11pm PT

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Dude - go easy on Lalu... He is supposed to be very friendly with you pakis...

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We enjoy all Bindi Bihari clowns. Lallu is no exception.

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And good luck with your ``mega farms``... Just curious - how is the export performance of your farming products?...

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You BIMAROUs won`t know. You don`t grow anything and wait for handouts for even basic food.

Mega-farms feed Pakistanis day in day out. Whatever is left, we ship out. That is mainly Cotton, Rice, and sugar. This would be clear to you f you knew even basic research. Try some day.

Re: # 41

I am sure paki mega firms are a mega success [for some reason, it`s also a mega secret] ... so how much money do you make per year by shipping out your farm products... I am no researcher in high-flying world of paki mega firms - so you tell us... :)

taikonaut:

these i.t. companies are the only worthwhile things macacas have created since bin qasim stepped on sindhi soil. let them celebrate this success in peace. they dont have much else to be thankful about. their qaum has suffered a lot since bin qasim defeated raja dahir 1300 years ago.

#27 by taikonaut on December 2, 2006 9:16am PT


mmmkay...

so what about the paki version of infosys or the paki billionaire that the great free market system of pakiland has undoubtedly produced...why don`t you name them...

Re: # 29 by arjun2 on December 2, 2006 9:35am PT

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mmmkay...

so what about the paki version of infosys or the paki billionaire that the great free market system of pakiland has undoubtedly produced...why don`t you name them...

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See Bindis are stuck in infosys. Why don`t you produce from the Bindis potato land the likes of Mega Agriculturalists like Noons, Tiwanas, Makhdums, Pagaras?

Aaaah. Bihar is just the land of bhook nang. you can`t produce any wealthy Agriculturist.

Valuation at stock market is just one aspect of measuring individual`s wealth. Obviously it is new and fashionable. It doesn`t however take away the real wealth in real-estate and the wealth of Mega-farms.

Your emphasis is at best akin to new money vs. old wealth. Pakistan historically had its wealth in Mega agri farms. No wonder it was called the bread basket of British India, and food supplier for the bhookay nangays BIMARU states.

Banglore, Calcutta, and Bombay on the other hand were the centers of Munshis (office- contractors) since 1650s. In 2000s they are now Mega-Munshis. Instead of having one desk shop of small Munshi, there are 1000`s of Munshis working in these mega-boxes. Still they are the Munshis of the West just like they were in 1650s.

So calm down if Munshis have finally gotten some wealth even if it is paper wealth. You guys will always be jealous of Pakistan`s Mega-farms. You pseudo-free-marketers!

Re: # 31

Hey chucklehead, land deeds are the lowest level of asset monetization in the real estate game. You must be a paki instead of a pakistani. Your knowledge deems you as such. The greater negative to your thinking about RE is that Pakistan under those terms is still a feudal society with capital and asset base locked up in real estate. Inflationary increases in property value doesn`t a billionaire make, it is the ability to leverage the development on the land to enhance equity. Sometimes I think there is a genetic issue in paki thinking. It must be due to the forefathers from arabia and their inherent stupidity.

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taiko-saheb, Just to set the record straight:

1) In 1967, 90 Canadair F-86 Mk.6 Sabre jets were bought from Germany by Iran and subsequently secretly transferred to Pakistan.
2) Iranian C-130B`s were used to transfer Pakistani troops between West and East. These aircraft were subsequently donated to Pakistan.
3) A squadron of brand new F-5 fighters transferred to Pakistan by Iran in `71 though these arrived to late to take part in hostilities.

Now most of this was probably arranged by the US administration, but there is not doubt that Iran (under the Shah) went out of its way to help Pakistan.

This article may help:
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_326.shtml

Just to complete the post, we know of the following at least:
1) Ammunition was donated by Inonesian and Turkish (PNS Dacca that was blown up outside Karachi harbour was packed with Turkish ammo)
2) 10 F-104 fighters were donated by Jordan.
3) Indonesia donated 20 Mig-19 (similar to Pakistani operated chinese J-6) fighters
4) Saudi Arabia donated $100 million to enable Pakistan to buy its Mirage III fighters (which were horrendously expensive for those days)

Re: # 28 by bongdongs on December 2, 2006 9:22am PT

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taiko-saheb, Just to set the record straight:

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Bong saheb, your examples simply show that pro-US countries helped each other. If Saudis gave money to Pakistan, we returned the favor by saving the house of Saud from the Biddus. Too bad we ended our presence in 1991 by pulling our Brigade strength troops. Same thing is true with Iran as well. We provided them with military security and they gave us money.

But Iranian cooperation ended with the end of Shah`s regime. We can`t use Shah`s time to prove that Iranians are still supporting Pakistanis. Ayatullahs have only supported anarchy and lawlessness in Pakistan. So we should not touch these Mullahs even with a 10 foot rod. These Mullahs are now radioactive thanks to some namak harams in Pakistan.

How about this perspective:

Thanks to that Mongoid Invader from Texas -- a Shia Sunni war from Pakistan to Lebanon -- is looming on the horizon -- unless both Pakistan and Iran secularize.

-- the Sunni Wahabism and Shia Ayatollahism must be defeated by the gentler version of Middle Eastern Baathism to avert this war that will pit Pakistan Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco and Turkey against Iran, Iraq Azerbaijan Tajikistan.

Because of Pakistan`s `Sunni bomb` Ayatollahs must have a `Shia bomb` -- thanks to that greedy idiot Qadeer Khan.

The beginning of this war will be the impending fall of Shia hold on 90% Sunni Syria -- Bashar`s head may roll in the bloody revenge by the Sunnis for his father`s massacre of 20 thousand Sunnis.

Saddam`s bloody Baathists were the only `peacekeepers` trying to prevent the various sectarian and ethnic components of Islam from cutting each others throats.

Pakistan is almost secularized -- Iran is ripe for secularism -- exept for the shameless idiot Americans who have delivered Iraq to their very Ayatollahs who blindfolded and humiliated the Americans for 444 days....

the tragedy is that the stupid Americans are still blindfolded -- with regard to I....ran.

Re: # 26 nasah
[....Pakistan is almost secularized -- Iran is ripe for secularism ...]

are smoking that weed again... dude, what the heck are you talking about?...

No muslim country ever be secularised... it`s impossible... even traditionally moderate countries like Malayasia are going the bedouin way, thumping the Book, aand making a big nuisance for themselves...

Pakistan will be soon be completely islamized... Iran will stay a mullahcracy for any foreseeable future... secularism and muslims don`t go together... oil and water...

Iran is in American cross-hairs..

people who think that`s going to change because the dems have congress of the senate are fucking idiots..the dems are just as warmongering as the repubs..the dems were down with the war on yugoslavia,whch, just like iraq, was another war on a country that wasn`t a threat to the US and for which there was no UN resolution..if shrillary is running for president and there`s all indications that she is, there is no was she`s running on a peace ticket or mind-our-own-fucking-business ticket...the fact of the matter is that the aam junta in the US can be a bunch of chutiyas under the right(or wrong circumstances) and confuse being a warmonger with being ``strong on security``..hence that a-hole joe lieberman and the iraq debacle..

war also greases the economy of a lot of the districts of these congress critters...

this time it will be different...there will no patience for a war with ground forces..it will be aeriel bombing, like yugoslavia...something that is ``doable`` and doesn`t look bad on the nightly news..

as much as iranians in the US hate the mullahocracy back home, none of them support an attack on iran(and they didn`t support an attack on iraq either)..the iranian people have a lot more honor..they`re not going to jerk off like pakis do when the CIA is dropping hellfires on their homies....

#22 Your time cant be worth much, given the time you spend on chowk, eh monkey-man. :-) but dont let me stop your big talk about billionaires.