Stagnating Pakistan-Iran Relations

#16 by taikonaut on December 2, 2006 8:17am PT

paki free-markets who have a bunch of companies on the asian top 50? or the paki free marketers who are billionaires...

reality is biased against the land of the pure...

Re: # 15 Jim boy sez

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Persian culture and literature, the traditional inspiration for educated people of North India, has given way to the beards, abayas, jilbabs and hijabs ........ What a sad fall!

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Yeap long gone is the Persian culture in Iran,
Sadly replaced by beards, abayas, Chaddors

Great kings of Iran are now replaced by midget nijats.

What a sad fall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#14 by taikonaut on December 2, 2006 8:12am PT

aww...the sad realization that it wasn`t an alliance but the threat to bomb you to the stone age that made you abandon the taliban...and why you are bombing the hills after the CIA drones have whacked a bunch of pakis on paki soil....

#17 by arjun2 on December 2, 2006 8:18am PT

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paki free-markets who have a bunch of companies on the asian top 50? or the paki free marketers who are billionaires...

reality is biased against the land of the pure...

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hahah! Poverty stricken Biharis are now giving lectures to Pakistanis.
Bindi potatoes have an alternative reality in the
BIMAROU States of Hindustan. BShech! BShech!

BShech! the land of milk and honey.....................

Re: # 19 arjun sez

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#19 by arjun2 on December 2, 2006 8:20am PT
aww...the sad realization that it wasn`t an alliance but the threat to bomb

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Coming from the Bindi commie lackeys.

yeah, 1950s CIA threatened to bomb Pakistan and got badaber NWFP base to fight commies.
yeah, 1970s CIA threatened to bomb Pakistan and got Peshawar NWFP to fight commies
yeah, 2000s CIA threatened to bomb Pakistan and got NWFP to fight neo-commies aka Talibs.

While KGB just banged India from 1947 all the way to 1990s and got all the Bindi potatoes.


Off course CIA and FBI has now taken over the charge from KGB and Bindis are so proud of it. This is what we call the alternate reality in Hindia.

haha indeed...funny how the freemarket pakis always change the subject when asked to name the paki companies in the asian top 50..or name the paki billionaires..

surely the freemarket pakis with their superb manpower base(haha) must have produced at least one infosys or one premji....right?

not only is this article completely idiotic, it is also full of lies or in other words, par for the course as far as this website goes.

despite gora pressure, pakistan actually voted against referring iran to the security council for iran`s nuclear program. as far as the pipeline goes, the main issue is the tariff demanded by the iranians which is unacceptable to both india as well as pakistan. this namoona ignores these two points thereby making it clear that either i. he does not know his head from his ass or ii. he is in the business of spreading lies

on the larger point, iran needs pak rather than the other way around. pakistan is in a position which iranians can only dream about :

i. pak has islamic bum

ii. pak has good relations with both east and west

iii. pak does not have clerical rule

iv. pak has a growing and non-oil dependent economy

v. pak has free media

vi pak women have the ability to walk about without covering their head

bottomline pak is doing the right thing by keeping iran at arms length. pak government has the luxury of dealing with iran on its own terms.

#22 Your time cant be worth much, given the time you spend on chowk, eh monkey-man. :-) but dont let me stop your big talk about billionaires.

Iran is in American cross-hairs..

people who think that`s going to change because the dems have congress of the senate are fucking idiots..the dems are just as warmongering as the repubs..the dems were down with the war on yugoslavia,whch, just like iraq, was another war on a country that wasn`t a threat to the US and for which there was no UN resolution..if shrillary is running for president and there`s all indications that she is, there is no was she`s running on a peace ticket or mind-our-own-fucking-business ticket...the fact of the matter is that the aam junta in the US can be a bunch of chutiyas under the right(or wrong circumstances) and confuse being a warmonger with being ``strong on security``..hence that a-hole joe lieberman and the iraq debacle..

war also greases the economy of a lot of the districts of these congress critters...

this time it will be different...there will no patience for a war with ground forces..it will be aeriel bombing, like yugoslavia...something that is ``doable`` and doesn`t look bad on the nightly news..

as much as iranians in the US hate the mullahocracy back home, none of them support an attack on iran(and they didn`t support an attack on iraq either)..the iranian people have a lot more honor..they`re not going to jerk off like pakis do when the CIA is dropping hellfires on their homies....

How about this perspective:

Thanks to that Mongoid Invader from Texas -- a Shia Sunni war from Pakistan to Lebanon -- is looming on the horizon -- unless both Pakistan and Iran secularize.

-- the Sunni Wahabism and Shia Ayatollahism must be defeated by the gentler version of Middle Eastern Baathism to avert this war that will pit Pakistan Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco and Turkey against Iran, Iraq Azerbaijan Tajikistan.

Because of Pakistan`s `Sunni bomb` Ayatollahs must have a `Shia bomb` -- thanks to that greedy idiot Qadeer Khan.

The beginning of this war will be the impending fall of Shia hold on 90% Sunni Syria -- Bashar`s head may roll in the bloody revenge by the Sunnis for his father`s massacre of 20 thousand Sunnis.

Saddam`s bloody Baathists were the only `peacekeepers` trying to prevent the various sectarian and ethnic components of Islam from cutting each others throats.

Pakistan is almost secularized -- Iran is ripe for secularism -- exept for the shameless idiot Americans who have delivered Iraq to their very Ayatollahs who blindfolded and humiliated the Americans for 444 days....

the tragedy is that the stupid Americans are still blindfolded -- with regard to I....ran.

Re: # 22 arjun2 on December 2, 2006 8:42am PT

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haha indeed...funny how the freemarket pakis always change the subject when asked to name the paki companies in the asian top 50..or name the paki billionaires..

surely the freemarket pakis with their superb manpower base(haha) must have produced at least one infosys or one premji....right?

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Innocent Bindis potatos will always compare apples to oranges. Oh Bihari Raam your billionaire Premji (May God bless him with more wealth) is all due to the trade with USA. Tell me if he would be a billionaire within the local Hindi-Bindi market.

Pakistan`s free market (minus the dark days of commie Bhutto) is based on the national wealth that is lot less dependent on global fluctuations.

Pseudo-Free marketer Munshis (BPO contractors) ignore the fact that Pakistan`s free market has allowed us to accumulate enormous wealth in the form of land holdings. Having a solid footing in free market ideals, Pakistan has changed even its service sector policies. I hope we will have our service sector premjis soon. Now you tell me when you will have our level of land holders in Bihar. Hahaha fat chance!.

Service sector wealth is all paper money totally dependent on the stock market players. However the land holdings represent the true wealth.

Visit Pakistani heartland of Lahore and Islamabad if you can afford an air ticket O! billionaire Bihari.

You will see first hand that Bindis can only dream about the opulence and the land holdings (of Pakistani version of Premjis).

I know I know many Bindis will now come up with commie ideals of land reforms. But that will simply prove my point. That Bindis are only pseudo-free-marketers.

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taiko-saheb, Just to set the record straight:

1) In 1967, 90 Canadair F-86 Mk.6 Sabre jets were bought from Germany by Iran and subsequently secretly transferred to Pakistan.
2) Iranian C-130B`s were used to transfer Pakistani troops between West and East. These aircraft were subsequently donated to Pakistan.
3) A squadron of brand new F-5 fighters transferred to Pakistan by Iran in `71 though these arrived to late to take part in hostilities.

Now most of this was probably arranged by the US administration, but there is not doubt that Iran (under the Shah) went out of its way to help Pakistan.

This article may help:
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_326.shtml

Just to complete the post, we know of the following at least:
1) Ammunition was donated by Inonesian and Turkish (PNS Dacca that was blown up outside Karachi harbour was packed with Turkish ammo)
2) 10 F-104 fighters were donated by Jordan.
3) Indonesia donated 20 Mig-19 (similar to Pakistani operated chinese J-6) fighters
4) Saudi Arabia donated $100 million to enable Pakistan to buy its Mirage III fighters (which were horrendously expensive for those days)

#27 by taikonaut on December 2, 2006 9:16am PT


mmmkay...

so what about the paki version of infosys or the paki billionaire that the great free market system of pakiland has undoubtedly produced...why don`t you name them...

taikonaut:

these i.t. companies are the only worthwhile things macacas have created since bin qasim stepped on sindhi soil. let them celebrate this success in peace. they dont have much else to be thankful about. their qaum has suffered a lot since bin qasim defeated raja dahir 1300 years ago.

Re: # 29 by arjun2 on December 2, 2006 9:35am PT

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mmmkay...

so what about the paki version of infosys or the paki billionaire that the great free market system of pakiland has undoubtedly produced...why don`t you name them...

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See Bindis are stuck in infosys. Why don`t you produce from the Bindis potato land the likes of Mega Agriculturalists like Noons, Tiwanas, Makhdums, Pagaras?

Aaaah. Bihar is just the land of bhook nang. you can`t produce any wealthy Agriculturist.

Valuation at stock market is just one aspect of measuring individual`s wealth. Obviously it is new and fashionable. It doesn`t however take away the real wealth in real-estate and the wealth of Mega-farms.

Your emphasis is at best akin to new money vs. old wealth. Pakistan historically had its wealth in Mega agri farms. No wonder it was called the bread basket of British India, and food supplier for the bhookay nangays BIMARU states.

Banglore, Calcutta, and Bombay on the other hand were the centers of Munshis (office- contractors) since 1650s. In 2000s they are now Mega-Munshis. Instead of having one desk shop of small Munshi, there are 1000`s of Munshis working in these mega-boxes. Still they are the Munshis of the West just like they were in 1650s.

So calm down if Munshis have finally gotten some wealth even if it is paper wealth. You guys will always be jealous of Pakistan`s Mega-farms. You pseudo-free-marketers!

Re: # 28 by bongdongs on December 2, 2006 9:22am PT

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taiko-saheb, Just to set the record straight:

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Bong saheb, your examples simply show that pro-US countries helped each other. If Saudis gave money to Pakistan, we returned the favor by saving the house of Saud from the Biddus. Too bad we ended our presence in 1991 by pulling our Brigade strength troops. Same thing is true with Iran as well. We provided them with military security and they gave us money.

But Iranian cooperation ended with the end of Shah`s regime. We can`t use Shah`s time to prove that Iranians are still supporting Pakistanis. Ayatullahs have only supported anarchy and lawlessness in Pakistan. So we should not touch these Mullahs even with a 10 foot rod. These Mullahs are now radioactive thanks to some namak harams in Pakistan.