Stagnating Pakistan-Iran Relations

this is how impotent iranian leadership is. it cant even pay back baghul may churee macaca leadership. in contrast, pakistan - recepient of millions of dollars in annual u.s. aid -actually voted in favour of iran in this resolution. and this is precisely why i favour pakistan maintaining an ambiguous stance on iran. iranian leadership must be made to realise that there will be a price to pay if acts in ways that might be to the detriment of pak. any leadership that cant distinguish between its friends and enemies deserves to be dicked around.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/archive/archive?ArchiveId=15434

India`s IAEA vote upsets Iran

Iran`s ambassador in New Delhi has met a top Indian foreign affairs official to convey his government`s deep disappointment at India`s decision to vote against Tehran on a UN atomic agency resolution.

The meeting between Indian Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran and Iranian Ambassador Siyavash Zargar Yaghoubi took place on Tuesday, as Iran threatened to review trade deals with countries that voted against it at the International Atomic Energy Agency.

meanwhile real situation india with regards to farm production and hunger. i can see a ``we are the world`` type concert fairly soon:

http://www.thestatesman.net/page.arcview.php?clid=3&id=163237&usrsess=1

seven million children in India die of hunger every year. It was earlier reported that 63 per cent of children go to bed hungry, and 53 per cent of them suffer from chronic malnutrition. In 2002, a large number of people died of starvation and malnutrition in the poverty-stricken regions of Orissa, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Gujarat, Chhattisgarh, Maharashtra and Himachal Pradesh despite surplus food in the FCI godowns

...Our food output in 2004-05 has declined to 204.6 million tonnes from 212 million tonnes in 2003-04. The scenario in 2005-06 has not been encouraging as the output has not exceeded 209 million tonnes. Given the burgeoning population, the present food production will not be enough to feed our growing population of over 1100 million, if the entire half-fed people are fully fed.

It is reported that India will face a food shortage of about 28 million tonnes by 2025 when the country will need a minimum of at least 338 million tonnes of food for feeding a population of 1690 million.

as i said before, this article is very idiotic - only fit to be published on a website like chowk. reality is that relationship between iran and pak is normal.

hot off the wires:

http://www.geo.tv/geonews/details.asp?id=152189&newscategory=pakistan

Musharraf, Ahmadinejad discuss gas price on phone

ISLAMABAD: President General Pervez Musharraf on Saturday talked to Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad on telephone and discussed measures to expedite the US $ 7 billion Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline project.

The two leaders agreed to remove impediments in the 2600 km gas pipeline project that aims at supplying natural gas from Iran to Pakistan and then onwards to India.

#48 by arjun2 on December 2, 2006 1:01pm PT

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: if the billions of $$ india earns through, among other things, designing chips is munshigiri, why have you been massive failures at even that?

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Failure? or trying to diversify our services to the West. Yeah sure we can`t compete with Hindia`s $15 billion IT bijnus. However Hindia can`t beat China`s $300 billion manufacturing sector. You know why?

Hindians can`t compete with China. Manufacturing is not their core competency. So what do Hindians do to compete with China? Make monkey faces to Pakistan. hahahha.

Re: # 50 Faisal sez

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regions of Orissa, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Gujarat, Chhattisgarh, Maharashtra and Himachal Pradesh despite surplus food in the FCI godowns

...Our food output in 2004-05 has declined to 204.6 million tonnes from 212 million tonnes in 2003-04. The scenario in 2005-06 has not been encouraging as the output has not exceeded 209 million tonnes. Given the burgeoning population, the present food production will not be enough to feed our growing population of over 1100 million, if the entire half-fed people are fully fed.

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See the commie policies of Hindia won`t work.

Re: # 52; give it time man...production is transient. Innovation is not.

taikonaut,

your numbers are incorrect. india`s total export (merchandise +services) will amount to $140-150bn this year. china`s export in comparison are expected to reach $960bn. to catch up with china, india`s export growth rate will have to exceed china`s export growth rate by 10% for the next 20 years. reality however is that india is running a current account deficit unlike china which is accumalating record surpluses.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8LA6QVG1.htm

China exports expected to reach $960B

NOV. 10 7:15 A.M. ET The Commerce Ministry said Friday that China`s exports are expected to reach $960 billion this year, boosting its politically sensitive trade surplus to about $150 billion, a state news agency reported.

taikonaut,

your numbers are incorrect. india`s total export (merchandise +services) will amount to $140-150bn this year. china`s export in comparison are expected to reach $960bn. to catch up with china, india`s export growth rate will have to exceed china`s export growth rate by 10% for the next 20 years. reality however is that india is running a current account deficit unlike china which is accumalating record surpluses.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8LA6QVG1.htm

China exports expected to reach $960B

NOV. 10 7:15 A.M. ET The Commerce Ministry said Friday that China`s exports are expected to reach $960 billion this year, boosting its politically sensitive trade surplus to about $150 billion, a state news agency reported.

Re: # 41

I am sure paki mega firms are a mega success [for some reason, it`s also a mega secret] ... so how much money do you make per year by shipping out your farm products... I am no researcher in high-flying world of paki mega firms - so you tell us... :)

just to put things in perspective, thailand with a population of 70mn will export as much as india will:

http://etna.mcot.net/query.php?nid=26345

Export growth in 2006 projected at nearly 20 per cent

BANGKOK, Dec 2 (TNA) - Thailand`s exports this year are projected to grow and meet the target of 17.5 per cent with total value of US$130.37 billion, according to Commerce Minister Krirkkrai Jirapaet.

Re: # 58: faisal, 60% of US GDP is domestic spending driven not export driven. You need a balance. India`s growth 8% y/y and soon to hit 9+% going by last quarters 9.2% growth is being fueled by domestic investment not through exports. This will happen for a long time to come. so rest assured..there is not as much risk to foreign demand. What woudl happen if US hits a recurrive solw down driving demand for chinese goods down?

#56 by faisaluno on December 2, 2006 1:27pm PT

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taikonaut,

your numbers are incorrect. india`s total export (merchandise +services) will amount to $140-150bn this year. ........

China exports expected to reach $960B

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thanks for the correction dude! Yeah the numbers are different but the relative disparity between China and Hindia (same population) remains the same or even worse.

Re: # 59: what drives sustainable growth are institutional development of lead sectors that can drive economic growth over long stretches of time. Take China for example, it opened its economy in 1978, it was a blip on the international trade scene until the early nineties (roughly the smae amount of relevance and attention that India is getting now after 15 yrs post liberalization) Just as the special economic zones in the south Guangdong and outside of shanghai led to shifting of manufacturing form the develop[ and other asian economies, same is happening in India in the services and other industries, pharama and biotech for example.

pakistan needs to develop sustainable sectors that can drive economic growth. According to chucklehead here it is land. There is no comparative advantage in wealth allocated among landed gentry. It creates countries like Blivia and Argentina, not countries like Singapore and China or India.

#59 by chaltahai on December 2, 2006 1:45pm PT

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What woudl happen if US hits a recurrive solw down driving demand for chinese goods down?

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The day US suffers a big slow down, its going to be bring down everyone else including Hindia.

Re: # 62: on what basis? Look at export exposures of the countries you are talking about. Use your own argument to defend your stand. YOU CAN``T!!!!

haha...check out chaprasi macaca predicting downfall of cheen even though cheen`s annual surplus is equal to india`s total foreign reserves and india`s budget deficit is around 7% vs less than 1% for cheen.

as far as pak`s farm production goes, here is a recent development:

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=33458

Pakistan may drive up global wheat prices

With stocks towering above 0.45m tonnes, Pak exports will be affecting international commodity exchanges

KARACHI: The world sees Pakistan instrumental in driving up international wheat prices, as it stands among only three wheat-producing countries across the globe having surplus stocks of more than half a million tonnes from last year crop.

A latest assessment made by the US Department of Agriculture suggests Pakistan along with Argentina and Ukraine would be the major player in the international commodity market to determine 2006-07 prices.