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India, Pakistan and the Kashmir dispute

Aparna Pande December 17, 2006

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#251 Posted by KaalChakra on December 23, 2006 4:45:13 pm
See, this is exactly why Kashmir should not be discussed in decent company. :)

Aparna, maa`m, have mercy. What would you take to make this the very last time you use the word Kashmir in any of your articles?




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#250 Posted by hamidm2 on December 23, 2006 4:38:45 pm
Re: # 249

dost-mittar,

............ happy holidays and have a great new year ...
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#249 Posted by dost_mittar on December 23, 2006 4:36:44 pm
hamidm:

``.......... on a happier note, you and i and our chldren and grand children don`t have to worry about anything - the kashmir `problem` will be around for another hundred years or more .......``

I presume you mean the next few generations of Indians and Pakistanis; your and my children are safely parked thousands of miles away. ;)

However, my bet is that these children will be fighting over more pressing issues, such as distribution of river waters which is soon becoming a life and death issue for many.

And I will now withdraw from this Board now as many more worthy people have already joined this discussion.
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#248 Posted by hamidm2 on December 23, 2006 4:18:15 pm
Re: # 247

arjun,

.......... you are a twit (i haven`t used that word in thirty years but it fits you to a tee) ............ i wish i could go out so that i don`t have to interact with twits like you - just because i went to a christmas parties the last four days i am in the doghouse and stuck at home with half a bottle of gin and some bad wine fit for an indian ............
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#247 Posted by arjun2 on December 23, 2006 4:06:26 pm
#245 by hamidm2 on December 23, 2006 3:54pm PT


it is really not as bad as you indians would like to think


The way pakis are treated by DHS obviously suggest otherwise...

take stuka for example..now that he`s got a paki entry/exit mark on his passport, he can forget about working in any capacity for the US government that requires any level of clearance...
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#246 Posted by hamidm2 on December 23, 2006 4:04:57 pm
Re: # 244

mohar,

thanks for the warning ....... i will be okay as soon as you guys hand over kashmir to me - i have no idea what i will do with it but it is a matter of principle ........

......... but don`t worry, as far as i am concerned, kashmir is way down on the list of things that pakistan needs to tackle - restoring democracy, getting rid of poverty, deporting wahabis and jihadis to deoband (india) and saudi arabia, cleaning up the streets, getting people off the railroad tracks ( oh yes, we too have the same problem), introducing deodrant, opening up the liquor shops and getting women to shave their legs ............ kashmir is way down on the list but that doesn`t mean we should roll over and let the horrible hindoos have their way ..............
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#245 Posted by hamidm2 on December 23, 2006 3:54:35 pm


anil mian,

``extremist cancer stricken place? ``

......this is where even a normally reasonable person like you shows his extreme prejudice, but it is really not as bad as you indians would like to think (and sometimes how i make it out to be for my own nefarious reasons ) ......... be my guest some day and i promise you will have a better time in lahore or islamabad than you can ever have in delhi ........ by the way, even though i voted for bush twice, he is not exactly a very credible person at this time; as for blair and putin, they have their own credibility issues .......... but i do agree with you that india is probably a better place for some (repeat, some) minorities than pakistan - however, the kashmiris will not be a minority so they won`t have any issues unless they all turn out to be ahmedis !
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#244 Posted by mohar11 on December 23, 2006 3:50:56 pm
Yo Hamdim - dude, everything OK at home?... since when you became a flaming jihadi?... take a break and get out of the room, get a martini or something... if you keep going like this - you are going to kill yourself... and a bunch of kafirs with dynamite around your waist...

be careful... :)
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#243 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2006 3:45:57 pm
anil: the only ``cancer stricken place`` i see is between your two ears. not the physical disease, thank god. by the mental cancer that you suffer from when you refer to a nation of 145 million people as if it is was a disease.

Pakistan is here to stay. Get this through your head. Then talk about peace and what not.
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#242 Posted by anil on December 23, 2006 3:38:12 pm
Re: # 230

Hamidm sahib:

``...why does pakistan have to give up its position on kashmir - why not india ?``

This is a because of jihadist free Indian muslims.

I call it Sania Mirza, Azim Premji, Shah Rukh Khan, Irfan Pathan, and Farzana Versey advantage. Bush believes in it, Blair believes in it, Europe believes in it, and of course Putin believes in it.

Of course I believe in it too, and will accept, there is more to be delivered to minorities thru however defective Indian democracy.

Honestly, Hamidm sahib, will you deliver a chunk of land and people to extremist cancer stricken place?

Will you, if so how could you? You may be quite lonely. Today, even the most powerful man cannot take it away from however defective democracy and put it on the silver platter to be delivered to somewhere closer to talibans.

I hope you will allow India banias to enjoy this advantage.
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#241 Posted by hamidm2 on December 23, 2006 3:30:19 pm
Re: # 237

satyavadi,

......... you are in good company ....... congressman virgil goode agrees with you - the poor man is worried about loosing virginia and his cousin/wife to marauding muslim vikings from minnesota ........... little does he know that real muslims are all for marrying their cousins and nieces regardless of their age and dental health ........

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/21/AR2006122101612.html
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#240 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2006 2:48:56 pm
correction to #239 - the only bogeyman being raised is by satyamvadi himself in #237, not shishapa as i wrote. sorry shishapa - i know you are too smart to create bogeymen and then scare yourself with them. :-)
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#239 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2006 2:46:35 pm
hamidm still holding the fort i see. fighting no doubt with a shot of dutch courage. but you remain quite accurate on kashmir of course with all shots hitting the bulls eye. :-)

satyamvadi #233- you claimed that pakistanis have the akhand bharat bogeymen. permit me to point out that in discussing the kashmir issue, hamidm (the only pakistani in the last several posts) is not referring to any akhand bharat bogeyman. permit me also to draw your attention to the only bogeyman being raised here is the muslim bogeyman (most explicitly in shishapa #237).
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#238 Posted by shishapa on December 23, 2006 2:17:32 pm
Re: # 236

The moderates and extremists would not settle for anything less, just the
means are different. It is the same blackmail, one is sugar coated, another is jahar coated.
They are basically same.
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#237 Posted by satyavadi on December 23, 2006 2:07:11 pm
shishapa,
You are correct to sound the caution bell. Hopefully, us Indians have learnt our lessons from the history of the past thousand years and we will not become complacent as was our wont in the past. Muslims anywhere in the world are formidable enemies - something about their culture and religion that makes them fanatically, often irrationally, focused on winning territory for which they are willing to typically `qurban` a lot more than other groups would be; and that`s why Indians or whoever is battling Muslims should never put their guard down, never be complacent and be ready for a really long drawn war.

Satyavadi
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#236 Posted by hamidm2 on December 23, 2006 2:02:33 pm
Re: # 226

dost-mittar,

`` find it more difficult to understand how you can support Kashmiri separatists whose raison d`etre is unification with the Ummah`` ....

........ i wish the kashmiri struggle for freedom had not been hijacked by the `islamists` and i am quite ashamed of the fact that i find myself on the same side on this issue with wild-eyd jihadis like ursrtruly who make me sicker than old monk and coke .............. but that`s what happens when you refuse to deal with the `moderates` ......... the same thing is happening to israel in palestine - they refused to deal with yasser arafat and now they have to `deal` with hamas .......

.......... on a happier note, you and i and our chldren and grand children don`t have to worry about anything - the kashmir `problem` will be around for another hundred years or more .......
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