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India, Pakistan and the Kashmir dispute

Aparna Pande December 17, 2006

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#219 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 23, 2006 10:20:39 am
Re: # 215
One should be careful as Indian industry and merchants can set trojan horse and make channel to export via Kashmir detrimental and indirectly get pipeline to Afghnistan. Talk of free border for trade is fine but in actual practice will dreadful as then in addition to China, Indians will dump goods and our business will be only traders and small and large business will be wiped out and farm imports will destroy agricultural and some wealth creation houses like Sugar factories will be wiped out in time.
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#218 Posted by sadna on December 23, 2006 10:12:18 am
hamidm2 #210
However times you or any other dishonest Pakistani like yourself calls me a believer in ``akhand bharat:, that will not make me one. I have an army standing between me and deluded Pakistanis like yourself, thank god.


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#217 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 23, 2006 10:09:19 am
Re: # 187
I studied ng prices over years and find around 4.5 years period there are dips ( or peaks) in localised sense.( Local maximum or minimum in that range). The reasons can be many and they have definite logic for 60% and about 40% are unforseen situations ( When you look back you can ( in epilogue) understand why it happened. Intropolation is piece of cake extrapolation is impossible in equity markets its all speculation .
The equties indicated give dividend on average range of 15%. Almost all are at bottom range about 50% of yealy peak. In next 3x15 to 4x15 years one can pick up 45% to 60% dividend and Natural gas prices will rise ( as prise has gone down marginal fields are getting abandoned and use of NG will increase is prediction ). Also oil prise have dived down from 72 to around 60 dollars. Within few years price will go through normal cycle and prices will get around 65 to 68 or even more ( all speculations) NG will go up in price and Canadian Natural Gas stocks will go up and if one sells one can get good gains. ( if for good or bad political problems get flareup in saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Russia or Azebaijan , nigeria , sudan etc will be make energy prices pick up even better)I do not know tax implications for sure.
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#216 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 23, 2006 10:09:00 am
Re: # 187
I studied ng prices over years and find around 4.5 years period there are dips ( or peaks) in localised sense.( Local maximum or minimum in that range). The reasons can be many and they have definite logic for 60% and about 40% are unforseen situations ( When you look back you can ( in epilogue) understand why it happened. Intropolation is piece of cake extrapolation is impossible in equity markets its all speculation .
The equties indicated give dividend on average range of 15%. Almost all are at bottom range about 50% of yealy peak. In next 3x15 to 4x15 years one can pick up 45% to 60% dividend and Natural gas prices will rise ( as prise has gone down marginal fields are getting abandoned and use of NG will increase is prediction ). Also oil prise have dived down from 72 to around 60 dollars. Within few years price will go through normal cycle and prices will get around 65 to 68 or even more ( all speculations) NG will go up in price and Canadian Natural Gas stocks will go up and if one sells one can get good gains. ( if for good or bad political problems get flareup in saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Russia or Azebaijan , nigeria , sudan etc will be make energy prices pick up even better)I do not know tax implications for sure.
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#215 Posted by anil on December 23, 2006 10:04:44 am
Re: # 209

Hamidm Sahib:

Now that Mushrraff has publicly said that Pakistan would give up the claim over Kashmir. Therefore, I can definitely see you with your family be able to travel to Srinagar from Pakistani Kashmir, and enjoy Kashmiri tea in a Shikara in the Dal Lake. Although you may have pay in Indian Rupees to enjoy. Although whatever BJ may say, economic integration may happen with minor geographical or political changes in either Kashmir.

For marketing reasons, LOC may be called to be made irrelevant. Arjun`s of India may not call it visionary (or courageous) on Pakistan`s part, and BJs of India may take out processions in Delhi and Jammu, but I do not know what Hamidm`s of Pakistan will do it, other than book a suite in the Oberoi by the Dal Lake.

Anil
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#214 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2006 10:00:51 am
#209 Hamidm, you uneducated, deluded paki you!! If there had been no partition, you would have gone to a world class Indian school rather than a deluded paki madrassah.

And in that fine Indian school, you would have been taught the Arjun Theory of Thermodynamics: Strike a hot air balloon enough times on a pin, and ultimately the pin will explode. ;-)


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#213 Posted by mohar11 on December 23, 2006 9:58:13 am
Re: # 210

you too hamid mian - stop mourning ``unfinished business``... the business was finished in 1947...
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#212 Posted by hamidm2 on December 23, 2006 9:55:36 am
Re: # 208

mohar,

........... if you feel that stongly about it we will let you buy a vacation home in srinagar - this way you can have your own little piece of kashmir ............ bj will have to make do with a condo in florida (hopefully not next to mine)
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#211 Posted by shishapa on December 23, 2006 9:54:21 am
Re: # 209

India snatched your daughter`s polly pocket? Damn, these Indians, they will stoop
to any level.
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#210 Posted by hamidm2 on December 23, 2006 9:52:52 am
Re: # 203

frau sadna,

...... in case you didn`t notice, i replied to dost-mittar in two post ...... the first one was directed more at people like you who are still pining for akhand bharat .......... now stop mourning over partition and get rid of the white sari or jump into the pyre ...........
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#209 Posted by hamidm2 on December 23, 2006 9:47:48 am
Re: # 201

arjun mian,

``Indian Kashmir is India...deal with it...``

...... we heard it the first time around - repeating it does not make your case any stonger .......... you remind of of my daughter when she was three years old - she is still waiting for her polly pocket !
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#208 Posted by mohar11 on December 23, 2006 9:47:42 am
Speaking of delusions of pakis - here is one more: ``unfinished business of partition``... 60 years down the line - partition is still ``unfinished`` for pakis... they still haven`t accepted partition as it was, they still are lusting after land, resources... they are still ready to spill blood, continue the conflict...

And in the same breath - they turn around and accuse DM that he has NOT accepted partition... can you believe these losers.. :)

Pakis - partition was done in 1947, it`s over, finished, end of story... there is no unfinished business, no more land to get, no more kashmir to fall into your laps... You can`t even keep the land you have, with talibans making their kingdoms all over the place...
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#207 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 23, 2006 9:36:59 am
Re: # 200
Middle class is buffer between two extremes.
Generally they are anxious and people with awareness and have time and inclination for future changes. Very well to do always survive and prosper in any regime. Poor are poor to have time to think or too do any thing , generally they do not get angry or too diturbed as life is so hard.
If regimes take care of middle classes normally then nobody will make problems and things will be fine.
This class is never happy as their aspirations and real life refuse to meet. Most restive and dangerous class though small in numbers. Middle classes are like indicator of future.
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#206 Posted by arjun2 on December 23, 2006 9:36:02 am
#199 by tahmed32 on December 23, 2006 9:01am PT


in that spirit, i think you should realize that when you start talking vague generalities like ``pakistani elite`` your arguments lose substance since elite can mean many different things
weakens whatever argument you are making


Uh-oh...DM is about to lose his prophet tahmed(PBUHSRR) seal of approval....

bad DM...bad...
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#205 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2006 9:35:47 am
oh oh. sri arjunjee is here, parroting his one-tune ``deluded pakis`` crap as usual.
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#204 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2006 9:32:00 am
#200 hamidm: either musharraf is a wily fox, giving the mullahs a long enough rope so they may hang themselves. As they are busy doing with with the strike called today e.g. in protest against the WPA (Women Protection Act), thus showing their true colors as oppressors of women and anyone else not protected by gunmen.

or else musharraf is a wily fox, giving the mullahs a long enough rope so they may scare anyone (Pakistani citizens as well as the international community) seeking to replace his military rule.

or else musharraf is a wily fox trying to do both.

Regardless of how wily he is, by strengthening military interference in politics, his name will be mud when future historians look back.
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