India, Pakistan and the Kashmir dispute

Ahmed420,

You are NOT an impartial adjudicator of virtue on Chowk by ur own admission. OK, agreed.

Btw u are most likely to be a Memphistopheles than a Zeus.

Merry Christmas.

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Mohar,

Now I know some people by their true colours. I rest my case now.

#296 by HP on December 24, 2006 2:31pm PT


Everything Indians touch becomes polluted fairly quickly.


Including the rivers that flow from Indian Kashmir into Pakiland...And seeing as how you`re unable to change the situation in your favor, the Indian government should dump some pig fat or the bodies of the killed jihadis into the rivers just before they flow into pakiland...

no 72 virgins for pakis then...

Re: # 319

Hamidm sahib:

It could all be conspiracy of three wise women to convert you to vote for Hillary Clinton. Indians cannot chage you, but three wise women shall change you.

Re: # 323

Actually, the three women are kicking his fat a$$ and there is nothing Hamidm can do about it... so, in frustration, he is lashing out at the hinuds... which kind of typical of pakis - if things go wrong, just blame it on the hinuds... :)

Re: # 324

mohar mian,

may al-lah bless you with half a dozen daughters !

Re: # 321 vrv

yeah, most pakis here are old bats, hanging on to the same tree for a long time... :)... in their darkand damp world - nothing ever changes: kashmir banega pakiland, hinuds are evil, ... blah blah... :)...

Re: # 325

dude, please - half a dozen daughters??... you can`t manage two - how am i going to manage half a dozen?... :)

#319 by hamidm2 on December 25, 2006 9:06am PT


arguing with mrs hamidm about new drapes for the bedroom


It`s the same thing really...mrs hamidm doesn`t care about your opinion on the drapes and indians don`t care about your opinion on kashmir..

#308 by hamidm2
“thanks for your insightful, astute and optimistic analysis of the kashmir issue”

Thanks.

“or a moment there anil and dost almost convinced me to abandon the poor Kashmiris”

These two gentlemen may appear well meaning but don‘t understand the political process. They are political simpletons and perhaps have no knowledge how things work in the real world.

Now to other posters:

What did I write in my post #296 that is not true?


1. Is it not true that Indian cities and villages are drowning under the filth? Read a very insightful article in online WSJ “Delhi Dilemma...Why India`s capital may never become a world-class city” by Shikha Dalmia
to get some clues…the article appeared on 12/20/06( this is copyrighted material otherwise I would have posted the article here.( now khasis would not have any qualms abt violating the COPYRIGHTS LAWS)

2. Is it not true that the most revered Indian rivers Ganga and Jamna are nothing but sewer canals?

3. Is it not true the Indian cities and rivers are more polluted than they ever were before the partition?

4. Is it not true that cows, cow dung and piss are the most visible monuments of Indians love for cleanliness? Btw, Is it not true the you commonly see women following cows and picking up cow droppings in baskets for use as energy and paint alternate?

The real problem is that truth hurts these khasis and they find it hard to face the facts and realities about the filth-pool macaca land.

Tahemd,
Someone has to show mirror to these reality-challenged nincompoops who while living in the west, forget that where they have come from and what their cities look like.

Now a word about Pakistani cities. I know there is still a lot to be done there but compare any Pakistan city small and large to what they looked liked in 1947 and you will see a marked improvement in sanitation, cleanliness and pollution. There is no Pakistani river that is as polluted as most of the Indian rivers are.

Re: # 296

Hizra Paaki,

I dont argue abt the cleanliness of Indian cities but the words abt sweeping generalisations is characteristic of you. For sample:

1. Everything Indians touch becomes polluted fairly quickly.

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Nonsense

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2. Look at their polluted religious and cultural symbols like Ganga and Jamna and just think that it is an important religious rite to bathe in there for an Indian Brahmin or shudra alike.

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Is this any different from Muslims rubbing brick-pieces around their coituses after pissing. Btw u wud see dozens of such brick-pieces used and reused by by many guyz like u i.e baldies...get it?

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3. Lake Dal has to be owned by Kashmiris again for human from Pakistan to visit it.

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U are deluding abt ur status. Haha.

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4. Btw, Hamidm, I recommend you walk into any Indian home in the US unannounced and you will notice the filth and stench that for a person of your exquisite taste for fine wines, would be enough to puke instantly.

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Many Indians feel the same abt Paaki homes. goat droppings etc...

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4..... Kashmiris have steadfastedly remained pro-military run-Pakistan and would certainly vote for Pakistan knowing fully well that the democratic institutions they have in Kashmir may not survive their merger with Pakistan.

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Another dose of delusion similar to Niazi being told abt yellows (Chinese), whites (US) coming to Pak`s rescue in Dhaka....Paakis are in deep slumber. Think more abt the dark-skinned, flat-nosed Biharis (who call themselves as Paakis) in Bangladesh

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5. Since 1989, Pakistan has maintained enough pressure on India thru supporting the insurgency that now both countries are forced to rethink their tactics and strategy. Despite the mayhem Pakistani sponsored insurgents have created in Kashmir, Kashmiris have remained riveted to Pakistan side shunning Indians at every step.

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Admission of guilt for propping up terrorism. Agreed.

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6. Now is the time to set a right trap for India to fall into. The only country that would benefit from opening of Kashmir borders, open trade between the Kashmiris, and free movements of people in Kashmir would be Pakistan and not India. In fact, I think the new approach would bring Pakistani and Kashmiris closer faster and the demand for a free Kashmir or Kashmir joining Pakistan would grow in strength and not diminish.

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Another admission of guilt mixed with another dose of misplaced optimism aka delusion

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7. The policy of supporting insurgency should now move to the next stage and that would be to support the civilian and pro-Pakistan Kashmiris leaders to take control of the state and that would happen fairly quickly after the borders are open between the two Kashmirs.

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I take this as a hint for Indians to replace Pakistan with India and Kashmir with Balochistan. Thanks.

When rephrased it looks like this:

7. The policy of supporting insurgency should now move to the next stage .....pro-Indian Balochis leaders to take control of the state and that would happen fairly quickly .......

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8. So I think there is no need to debate this issue with these nincompoops because action on the ground would prove to be more powerful in the long run.

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I agree abt this so I repeat the same for u.

So I think there is no need to debate this issue (Balochistan) with these nincompoops aka Paakis because action on the ground would prove to be more powerful in the long run.

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Re: # 330

Add on to point 2.

How can I/we forget abt the hundreds of photos published in Jinnah`s newspaper Dawn abt the city of Karchi flaoting on sewage and another photo os people treating paalak with sewage water.

Dirtiness is digested into ur systems. Can anybody cure u??

Re: # 329

HP sahib:

1947 mein Kashmiri dilwala dulhaniya ley gaya tha, sahib. Aur uski kashmiran beti ne 1971 woh kar diya jo dilwala nahi kar saka to seal the future. Ab HP sahib, dulhaniya begam ke great grand children ki sochiye. Unko BJ Bihari ya mulla maulana hijack na kar lein. Aur apne ghar ko no bhool jayein, mulla maulana na lein jayein. Zara Sochiye.

Agar mere ko Kashmir ka minister bana diya to mein aap key swiss cows to import kar doonga.

Monkey ki problem hogi. Uske key liye mein Pakistani tourist ko ijazat de doonga saath mein laane key liye. Kum se kum Pakistani, monkeys ki bhi pooja ho jayegi, 60 saalon se nahin hui hai.

Politics mein kuch nahin rakha hai.

Kahtein hai “tail ki dhar dekhiye, aur dushmanon mein dost dekhiye.”

Karl Rove should have proved it for you, political opinion can be managed by a handful of persons, and presidency delivered. Kashmir kya hai, Lallo se seekhiye.

Meri tou yahi khawaish hai, aage aapki marzi.

Re:VRV, arjun2, mohar et al

Yaar, why do you guys waste your breath debating Kashmir? It is all quite simple. INDIA WILL NEVER, EVER GIVE UP KASHMIR. Thats it. Period!! Jo karna hai, kar lo....

We have nukes and are more than willing to use them as necessary. So why argue about fait accompli?

Re: # 333

Ranjit,

`INDIA WILL NEVER, EVER GIVE UP KASHMIR. Thats it. Period!! Jo karna hai, kar lo...`

Cant agree more.

They cant do anything worse than what they are doing in Kashmir & other parts of India.

Re: # 333

Just to kick a few paki a$$es - figuratively speaking... :)

#335 Mohar

Why would ANYONE want to duplicate the feat that the Pakistani fauzis have been doing for the last sixty years?!!

Physically speaking!