Truth Behind US-India Nuclear Deal

I see India-US nuclear deal as one of the blessing in disguise for Pakistan. Over the years the Us aid has nothing but a crippling effect on Pakistan and it has only resulted in the haramkhori and corruption of the ruling class. Pakistan has always made great strides everytime opportunity presented itself to keep a distance from US sphere of influence. As US tilts itself closer to India, Pak will get closer to the Chinese and Pan Islamic influence - which is good for us.

Allama Iqbal said:

Aey Tair-e-Lahooti, uss rizq say mout achi
Jis rizq say aati ho, parwaz main kotahi


Tr: O! yee the bird of high skies (An Eagle, similie to Muslim youth), it is better to die than devoure the food that causes sloth; the food that causes negligence in flying high

#1 There`s a silver lining to every cloud..

They know that all the BPO and other tech contracts are dependent on the good will of US.


right...The US Department of IT outsourcing(DITO) might not take too kindly to India having relations with Iran..The secretary of IT outsourcing, the person who tells US companies where to outsource their work, has clearly said so...

This is not a very profound analysis. The BJP has no credibility on this issue, it would have gladly signed the same treaty if it were in the govt.

India is not bound by a US legislation, only the US is. India will only be bound by what it agrees in a bilateral agreement. Of course, the US could end its supplies of nuclear technology if it were unhappy with what India does, but it wont be in its interest. Once India is taken off the pariah list by the NSG, India could go to any country to meet its needs and the US will only be hurting its nuclear suppliers by blacklisting India.

That Nasscom played a role in this is a complete revelation. Yes, in general the Indo-American Business council played its role as did the Indo-American community.

The principled opposition to the deal came from the non-proliferation lobby in the US. This deal will make it difficult for the US to argue against Iran, Korea and other countries acquiring nuclear weapons and open it to the charge of hypocricy, but this wont be the first time that America would be accused of hypocricy.

I find this concept of pan-islamists and the chinese working in concert comical. The chinese will do what the Brits and Americans have done but without subtleties. I don`t know how many of you have been to china, done business with chinese gov`t but their abhorrence of pan islamism is equal if not more than the western world. They will step on muslims necks to get what they want.

#4 by dost-mittar on December 13, 2006 11:54am PT


The principled opposition to the deal came from the non-proliferation lobby in the US. This deal will make it difficult for the US to argue against Iran, Korea


Right..Iran and NK were waiting for this deal to say ``HA..you signed a deal..now we`re going to develop nukes``..

as a corollary, if this deal hadn`t gone through, do you think iran and NK would have wrapped up their nuclear programs?

``The BJP has no credibility on this issue, it would have gladly signed the same treaty if it were in the govt.``(dostmitter)

exactly -- they would have sold their mother to get their hands on a few ounces of American plutonium -- you are also right that this treaty is an open invitation for the Arabs to nuclearize at a do or die urgency -- especially after what that stupid immature Olmert did to Lebanon and then openly destroyed the Israel`s `nuclear ambiguity` -- an interesting term.

Now that Iran has benn assured of its Shia Ajami bomb -- the Arabs would race for their Sunnit Arabic bomb -- since the Pakistani `Sunni` bomb for all practical purposes has been thoroughly sterilized of its sectarian quality by the occupying Americans.

what is most remarkable about the bill is the overwhelming majority of the vote, and that too after a major defeat for the whitehouse in mid-term polls. While the senate was unanimous, the house was 333 for, 56 against and 44 abstained. The support was understood to be so overwhelming that this was one of the 2 bills Bush asked the congress to pass in his concession speech after the mid-term polls loss; he was so confident of its passage.

Urstruly, here is a chinese major-general in pakistan for some joint anti-terror (wink-wink) excercises. you can see the dead-serious PLA guys in combat-gear and GHQ folks in colonial finery in the background. Soon there will be petrolling on the silk road for those uighurs jihadis.

the chinnese helmets have an uncanny similarity to the helmets that the Nazi used to wear...:)

US gains from this Nuke deal as follows:

1) Minimalize the Iranian influence on India by reducing India dependency on Iranian oil
2) Make Iran cash strapped as Indians will be able to produce electricity by Nuclear means thus will be buying less oil from Iran.
3) More influence in India due to dependency on US supplied fuel.
4) Weaker Iran directly translates more security to Israel.

Iran-Pak-India oil pipeline is already history as Indians pulled back from the project.

Why is US doing all this:
So when the time come for marching orders against China, India will not be able to resist.

Murgha tiyar ho raha hai

Asfand Siddiqui

arjun, nasah:

I actually support this deal. Manmohan Singh is not stupid. India needs all the energy it can get. India and China`s potential gargantuan energy needs cannot be met by fossil fuel alone. Not only nuclear, India would have to explore all other alternative sources of energy as well, such as Wind and Solar power. And if it restricts India`s capacity for developing nuclear weapons, and I don`t think it will, this is not a major flaw. India`s security depends more on a peaceful neighbourhood and internal cohesion than on the quantum of its nuclear arsenal.

Dost mitter ji -- I know you have always supported the deal -- I have never supported the nuclrealization of India and will never support it -- I consider it an abomination -- but i do agree with your implications about its effect on the world nuclear proliferation.

The stupido from Texas like his Iraq `strategy` -- thinks that the USA will be able to use India as the frontline state in a future war against China -- just like he is using Pakistan against Al Qaida and Talibans of Afghanistan -- I know India of Manmohan Singh will never but I am not sure about the India of Advani and comapny.

nasah:

Bhaijaan, nuclearisation of India was started by Nehru and Homi Bhabha and the weaponisation by Indira Gandhi. Vajpayee-Advani were Johnies-come-lately who be-naqaabed themselves as well as Pakistan.

You are 100% right maray bhai -- it was that dragon lady who was the first to start belching the nuclear fire on the already inflamed miserable subcontinent -- but then she turned into an `ambiguous` responsible hijabi Kali for 24 years (though she was not actually kali:) -- unlike the bay haya `bayniqab` (great term) buggers of the 1998.

Re: # 10
Some time back DM ji wrote about this pipe line and I wrote only problem with line is miserable rate offered by Indians when price going was $12 dollars they were suggesting $5 dollars max. Presently the natural gas prices have collapsed and still they are near $5 dollars ( for standard Btu content for 1000 Cubic ft).It is still around $5 when there is no place to store NG worldwide and marginal gas fields are cloing around world. Also they wanted the gas only charged at exist point at border point. Also they wanted to them to be provided additonal oil at calibrated rate in case of disruptions of gas pipeline. This line will be disrupted on regular basis by terrorists.( This is good time for buying natural gas producer stocks and same way coal As presently there is extreme over production of Natural gas world wide prices are down such fall in NG will not remain that way for long time. The returns will be good over next 4 to 5 years, Pakistan, usa and China are building NG , which is compressed and liquified at ver low temp, once they are successful gas consumption will rise very fast. Equity Market are very efficient due to technical inovations means they are fast but not subtle and wise investor can make good advantage.and present rates for coal and gas will shoot up) Unless buyers offer proper reasonable rate gas will not be coming. Indian govt told Iran we can buy gas only at price we can afford/ a strange demad for sure. If proper prices are given pipe will be built.

Re: # 15
Natural gas unloading facilities at harbours.