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Re-Imagining Pakistan

Pervez Hoodbhoy December 13, 2006

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#431 Posted by bjkumar on December 19, 2006 8:04:24 pm

Looks like I missed some action today.

In my view, Ms. Sadna is a person of great integrity. She does her research and does not use shady sources like the lawyer Manto. And she can fully hold her own against highly abusive interactors like HP and Godot and less often, but certainly quite consistently - Manto.

It is typical of many Pakistanis here to be absolutely one-sided in their observations - especially in the manner in which they are swayed by their green prejudice! A legitimate argument can be made that the guidelines are not enforced uniformly - which means that the slogan of ``unflinching idealism`` is little different from the typical desi political slogans that reverberate throughout the subcontinent - and are meaningless in practice! This also shows who is the ``weak`` party.

I see hardly any difference between the racial segregation of the South Africa of a few decades ago and the ``Muslims are better than non-Muslims`` mentality that appears to permeate through and afflict the vast number of Pakistanis seen here - across all age groups.

The hypocricy of the ``senior`` Pakistanis (the Gills and the Tahmeds and countless others) becomes evident in the manner in which they selectively ignore the hate posts of their own countrymen! Yet they wonder why nobody in their own country listens to them! Like cokroaches on their back, they put up those multiple legs in the air and flail them without making any progress.

It is quite funny to watch the likes of the Mantolives squirm when faced with facts and figures.

I urge Sadna to continue enlightening the chowk masses, especially the Pakistani crowds - most of which appear highly delusional. Although the end results are unlikely to improve because of what appears to be the high level of hypocrisy on the part of the Pakistanis here!


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#430 Posted by Folio on December 19, 2006 7:08:59 pm
Re: # 428

Corrected as:


IT LOOKS LIKE THE CHOWK MEMBERSHIP IS GRADED WITH OPEN LICENCE TO ABUSE FOR THE PREVILEGED LIKE YASSER/MANTO, MASTER_PAK....…FOR THE OTHERS THERE`S LONGER SCISSORS FOR CENSORING.

THEREFORE THE CONCLUSION IS SADNA`S HONOUR CAN BE TRAMPLED UPON WHEREAS MANTO`S FAMILY`S CANT BE.

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#429 Posted by taikonaut on December 19, 2006 6:52:03 pm

#427 by arjun2 on December 19, 2006 3:45pm PT

So you should have no problem naming the billionaire paki mega farmer...

Why? you trying to send one of your lady`s marriage proposal?
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#428 Posted by Folio on December 19, 2006 5:51:20 pm
Mantolives was fond of telling others abt

1. ‘gobbling-up defecation’

2. references to rearend,

3. references to orifices .

IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE REFERENCES ARE BONAFIDE IF POSTED BY PREVILEGED MEMBERS!

Latest example is this on the same board as this:

#398 by Mantolives on December 19, 2006 3:32am PT

How did you manage to put your head as well both feet up your rear orifice.

++++++

Another member (are these nameless I.Ds can be called as members?) On the same board:

#421 by master_pak on December 19, 2006 6:10am PT
Re: # 419vrv

[Are u inviting Yasser for the `job`?]

yap.coz your indian sis sadna doesnt find one penis enough to s*rew her ,she needs one in her a*s too.

yassar plz help me bhai.

++++++++

The poser is:

Gobbling up defecation, references to rearend and the worse one like penis, screw are all DECENT WORDS, whereas posts without these words are objectionabale?????

The so called Chowk-Staff are IDless scums who appear to be brain-dead or like members some here, are selective moralists.

++++++++

IT LOOKS LIKE THE CHOWK MEMBERSHIP IS GRADED. WHEREAS THERE’S OPEN LICENCE TO ABUSE FOR THE PREVILEGED LIKE YASSER/MANTO, MASTER_PAK....…FOR SOME THERE’S SENSORING.

THEREFORE THE CONCLUSION IS SADNA`S HONOUR CAN BE TRAMPLED WHEREAS MANTO`S FAMILY`S CANT BE.

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#427 Posted by arjun2 on December 19, 2006 3:45:53 pm
#426 by taikonaut on December 19, 2006 3:32pm PT


Mega farmers are no different from Mega industrialists.


So you should have no problem naming the billionaire paki mega farmer...
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#426 Posted by taikonaut on December 19, 2006 3:32:03 pm



#409 by sanatani on December 19, 2006 4:44am PT
Unlike a joke of a ``mega farmer`` like you who insists on sticking his prick in every banteedar`s mother/sister/wife/daughter

Abuse of poor by the rich is only allowed as per religious addict by none other than Brahmins. Dunno what you mean by a bateendar. May be a form of shudra being abused by high-caste Biharis?

Mega farmers are no different from Mega industrialists. Just read up about “sexual harassment” in Bang-a-ludu software houses. That does not mean one should not set up software houses. Are you forgetting Phaneesh Murthy’s case? BTW he was the head of global sales and marketing for Infosys Technologies.
1. http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2004/11/25/stories/2004112502760600.htm
2. http://www.ccsindia.org/ccsindia/interns2006/Garment%20workers%20in%20Bangalore%20-%20Naiyya.pdf


For you the abuse of women by Mega industrialists is OK while the others must bear the wrath of Hindu mullah-tics.

Abuse of minorities and women is a horrible deed. However that doesn’t take away the concept of being super-Rich. The riches may come from industry or the farms, and May Allah / Bhagwan / God reward the good people, and punish the bad ones.

p.s. Personal attacks by the poor Bihari boy are ignored. These offshoots of Lallu are prone to using filthy language.
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#425 Posted by rf786 on December 19, 2006 11:27:44 am
Doc,
Pakistan has hope as long as we have people like you. Many thanks and please do keep writing. Arif
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#424 Posted by philosopher on December 19, 2006 7:07:21 am
pervez hood bhoy:
SIR there is a line in your article :

[The good news is that, at the level of epistemology, truth in science is ultimately knowable. Post-modernists are up the creek if they think that all scientific knowledge is relative]

what crap is this???????

is that the level of your comprehension of 20th centuray philosophical movements?well guyssssss do u have any clue who is he making fool of.

the gullible laymen? who are completly unawar of philosophical thinking with his pseudo knowledge-plated ignorance.shocking,ridiculous sheer nonsense.he seems to be giving his final verdict on highly philosophical issues of diverse significance.

is he aware of even th basic technical tenets of `sociology of knowledge` what he is ridiculing and rejecting in one sentence?

is there any kinda research of this man which seriously deny that highly philosophical descipline?????

if he has got something to say on this issue why hasnt he sent his paper to any well reputed philosophical journal?.i think that would be a great addition to human thought if editor of the journal find it worth-publishing.
ahhhhhhhhhhhh,amazing
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#423 Posted by VRV on December 19, 2006 6:17:11 am
Re: # 421

missus_pak,

I think America kept not 2 but three into Pakistan. 1. forth 2. back 3. mouth.

The US is willing put two more into ur nostrils and 2 more into ur ears, I think with signing of the Nuclear Deal, India cud help the US in that deficit.
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#422 Posted by MantoLives on December 19, 2006 6:14:50 am
Dear Master_Pak,

Please don`t stoop to their level and make women`s sexuality an issue. It is below our dignity as a people. We are not Indians.

Sadna deserves our respect as a woman... despite her bigotry and fanaticism.
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#421 Posted by master_pak on December 19, 2006 6:10:19 am
Re: # 419vrv
[Are u inviting Yasser for the `job`?]


yap.coz your indian sis sadna doesnt find one penis enough to s*rew her ,she needs one in her a*s too.

yassar plz help me bhai.
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#420 Posted by MantoLives on December 19, 2006 6:07:35 am

Sadna is hiring ``defenders`` from non-existent abuse. Who is going to save her from her lashing tongue though.

And he would ``throw his shirt`` and ``go to burger king``.

Eloi Eloi Lema Sebachthani ...
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#419 Posted by VRV on December 19, 2006 6:00:38 am
Re: # 418

missus_pak,

Are u inviting Yasser for the `job`?

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#418 Posted by master_pak on December 19, 2006 5:56:45 am
Re: # 416 manto

great job manto.right on pu*sy.no need to tell on whose
.
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#417 Posted by VRV on December 19, 2006 5:55:58 am
I dont know the specifics and u know them a lot....congrats man!

Any normal discussion with Sadna or anybody...I wont disturb u but if u abuse Sadna, I will take offence throw my shirt.

See u later..got to go to Burger King.

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#416 Posted by MantoLives on December 19, 2006 5:37:50 am
What is this paki/napaki buddy... I was not aware that Nautanki is a form of mujra. Thanks for telling us that Sadna`s abuses have a sexual/red light connotation at some level.

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