Let us do away with Kashmir

``New Delhi is willing to set up cross LoC joint mechanisms on issues of health, water management, environment protection and tourism etc. but unwilling to give sovereignty status under a joint management system.

According to Indian approach, we should think in terms of Indo Pak joint management of various resources and consultative institutions in agriculture, forestry, environment, tourism, water and power by making borders irrelevant.``(author)

so what is wrong with that -- if people are lookiing for the Federal or provincial administrative control of each other`s territories -- that will asking for the moon.

We are dealing with entirely two different legistlative systems operating on either side of the border and they are not going to be compromised. They will have to be left as they are.

Autonomy with essential Federal controls from either side -- each according to their own system of government is the least complicated solution.

On the Indian side Hurriyet is just ONE of the many players – Gilani should get this delusion out of his head that his shirwani owns the Valley and that any solution of Kashmnir has to be tailor made for Hurriyet. Once he gets this out of his system – and reduces himself to the size that he really belongs – I think Kashmir ‘problem’ will move towards imminent solution.

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I have a better solution - Let us do away with Kashmir articles on Chowk.

Its too goddamn boring with the same arguments, same debates, same gandhi/jinnah crap.

#2 by ranjit

ROTFL .... exactly.

`` have a better solution - Let us do away with Kashmir articles on Chowk.

Its too goddamn boring with the same arguments, same debates, same gandhi/jinnah crap.
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But those are the articles that get 500+ hits right?

Mazhar, Mazhar,
Yes, we can easily do away with Kashmir problem without even having to solve it. Kashmir belongs to Pakistan and Pakistan belongs to a united India - just the way it was. End of story. Next topic, please.

it was considered necessary due to our commitments on war against terror.


yes...your commitment to yourself to not be bombed to the stone age...


hinted such a bold initiative.


yes...and the fox boldly walked away from the grapes...

funny how pakis talk about making concessions...it`s like the fox telling the grape tree that I`m making a concession by not taking all the grapes and then demanding the tree show equal flexibility by dropping some grapes into the fox`s mouth...

never heard about foxes and grapes...But I will say this. kashmir is not going anywhere. Keep things the way they are, in a few years Sindh bhi dey deingey :)

This theory of Muslims having their own identity and therefore TNT and therefore Kashmir belonging to pakistan is pure bumkum. A Punjabi Muslim has more in common with a Punjabi Hindu than a Pathan. Prez of India Dr APJ Abdul kalam has more in common with a Tamil Brahmin than with a Baluchi Muslim.

The sooner Pakistan understands that the better for its citizens.

Pakistan is displaying an extremely flexxible attitude to accommodate India and also to contain its local jehadis.
It is unfortunate that the Indians are not responding positively.

#9 by okhla99 on January 5, 2007 11:05pm PT

Bud...get real...you can`t offer up something you don`t have a shot at getting and claim to be flexible..which is why I use the fox and the sour grapes analogy...the fox wasn`t showing flexibility when he didn`t eat the grapes....

you`re confusing inability with flexibility...

and you didn`t crack down on the jihadis out of the goodness in your heart..ever wondered how the jihadi groups were outlawed after 9/11 and not before...you think uncle sam`s pressure didn`t have more than a little to do with it?

Take away the Kashmir?? After encouraging and spreading the Jehadi tentacles within Pakistan Mush is now trying to tone down his OWN rhetoric when he finds that Kashmir has become a part of the global Jehadi agenda.

Remember, Mush was the key guy whose rant of ``centrality`` of Kashmir problem was behind spurring the jehadi Islamists into greater action. Now that these Islamists are trying to get out of his control he is forced to mull down the ``centrality`` thesis in order to show that he is an innocent ``moderate``.
Nonsense!!! All Indians know that Mush`s army has been training, cultivating and have been neck deep in the Jehadi group`s operations. Now that most of these groups have become independent and aligned themselves with the Al-Qaeda brand of global Jehadism he is only trying to distance himself from them. But Indians know that Mush is neck deep into the mess that his army has created in creating the Jehadi monsters in the name of ``avenging for Bangladesh`` and completing the ``unfinished business of partition``.

Re: # 11

Last week Saddam Hussain was hanged. Now is the turn of a few Pakisatnis to be publicly hanged - start with Pres Musharraf (for kargil), past and present ISI heads (for helping and arming jihadis) and few head maulavies (for creating jihadis). That will rid the world of a few bad guys.

regards

Re: # 5 Salim Chauhan

Agreed, but first you find a new country for Manto. We won`t have him here.

i would like to correct musharraf: ``kashmir IS an integral part of pakistan``

........ and that is all i have to say on this subject - case closed !

Re: # 14

You are not the first, nor the last Jehadiyon ke Abba who will die with that dream in his eyes, and then keep turning in his grave regularly.

If only Indians would care.

Re: # 15

joshi ji,

........ if you feel that strongly about it, you can keep it as long as the kashmiris are okay with it .......... see, how easily we can settle these things ! ........