Saddam - The Sacrificial Lion

Re: # 103

``bs khan cannot hide his hatred of Islam even as he pretends to be a Muslim...and then invents straw men like a typical mirasi in order to rebut his opponents whose arguments are much beyond his tabla nawaz intellect...``

Abey, Choutiya you need to stop abusing other interactors and replying in ad hominems. Please tell us what is the Alif Laila ``freedom`` that Islamists like you have for those faithfuls who do not follow your moral codes- not to talk about the ``freedom`` for your dhimmi slaves???

#98 i suspect he was highly sedated with medications.

even the biggest enemies of saddam--including the treacherous Rawafid--will have to admit he was noble and dignified and unafraid in facing Death. subhan Allah!

Iqbal wrote:

Nishan e mard e momin man ba tu goyam
Mard aayad, tabassum bar lab-e-oost!

Re: # 98

correction:

MARG aayad, tabassum bar lab e oost!

#95, arjun2 {``... and a vasectomy doesn`t involve cutting off your tallywhacker...if that happened to you, the doctor used your ignorance to cover his malpractice``}

Arjun Bhayya,
I never said that vasectomy involves cutting off your tallywhacker. This is what I said:

{``All the free radios in the world couldn`t compensate a man for tying his tallywhacker. ``}

Anyway, thank you for enlightening us with your own personal experience. It does seem, from your own issues, that vasectomy does impact one`s eyesight. :) Why else would you read tying as cutting?

#82 by Salim_Chauhan on January 2, 2007 2:21pm PT

that wasn`t the army

and a vasectomy doesn`t involve cutting off your tallywhacker...if that happened to you, the doctor used your ignorance to cover his malpractice..

Salaam and Eid Mubarark to all..and ofcourse a very happy new year. The first I heard of Sadaam`s execution was whilst driving home for Eid with my friend who talked about her disgust for what had happened. She is South African and has grown up in a family of political activists who fought hard during Aparteid. In her mind there was no justifying capital punishment and especially not on Eid. I ventured that perhaps she would see things differently if it was a member(s) of her family who had suffered under Sadam. She pointed out that the anti aparteid struggle tried to be non violent..look at how much Mandela achieved peacefully.

I thought about this for a few minutes..I am no expert on these topics and there are people out there much more knowledgeable.

So what did I feel about his execution? For me it stood as a symbol for the sad state of humanity today that we can ignore the reverence of Eid and kill someone. In terms of Sadam? I kinda chuckled...the man was executed on Eid with the words of the Quran on his lips...and no matter what I thought of him...I reckon Allah may just forgive some of his sins and if I was Sadam..I would be thinking is there a better way to go? On our holy day, the words of the Quran on my lips, a quick death....fantastic!!! Much better that rotting prison for the rest of one`s life!!!

Salaam and Eid Mubarark to all..and ofcourse a very happy new year. The first I heard of Sadaam`s execution was whilst driving home for Eid with my friend who talked about her disgust for what had happened. She is South African and has grown up in a family of political activists who fought hard during Aparteid. In her mind there was no justifying capital punishment and especially not on Eid. I ventured that perhaps she would see things differently if it was a member(s) of her family who had suffered under Sadam. She pointed out that the anti aparteid struggle tried to be non violent..look at how much Mandela achieved peacefully.

I thought about this for a few minutes..I am no expert on these topics and there are people out there much more knowledgeable.

So what did I feel about his execution? For me it stood as a symbol for the sad state of humanity today that we can ignore the reverence of Eid and kill someone. In terms of Sadam? I kinda chuckled...the man was executed on Eid with the words of the Quran on his lips...and no matter what I thought of him...I reckon Allah may just forgive some of his sins and if I was Sadam..I would be thinking is there a better way to go? On our holy day, the words of the Quran on my lips, a quick death....fantastic!!! Much better that rotting prison for the rest of one`s life!!!

sur daad nu daad dust dur dust-e yazid
huqqaa kay benaiy-e la illahust hussein

hamidm2
You need to get over your sadna fixation soon because it won`t help when it occurs to the US taxpayer some time soon that if he was to pay billions of dollars to invade a nation and hang a dictator for state patronage of Al Qaeda, the 9/11 attacks and global jihad ideology which is still on the US taxpayers` tail, that nation was not Iraq and that dictator was not Saddam Hussein.

Re: # 91

sadna,

....... are you and arjun soul mates ?

chingari writes <<< ...... a leader is supposed to gather the whole nation and guide them into the future... not kill one segment of the population and side with the other..... we muslims need to be a bit more tolerant in our approach! That goes for both people like Saddam and the rest of the community! >>>

When they colonials have haphazardly divided up the world for the purpose of control and play one side against the other, be it on nonsense, like how many angels can dance on the tip of a pin, you will get people like Saddam on both sides. The ``cause`` is such colonial interference so that the people can never come together and get their institutions and society in order, it is patchwork and survival, one coup after another....In this atmosphere one cannot talk of ``leaders`` and what they can and cannot do.

Soysauce writes <<< now people simply choose from the short list.>>>>

A ``short list`` that was developed inspite of them, over which there was no debate, considered half the population non-existant and the colored less than human. A list circumscribed by wealth and the wealthy, protecting its interests and the slaves have resigned to it. Why don`t you go ``dance in the street`` to celebrate this ``democracy`` with your friend Jang, to him dancing is the ultimate criteria of representation no matter the size of the random sample he picked to generalize that into acceptance of the dictator by Pakistanis

#86, {``Like i always say it is relative! I say close your eyes and imagine if Saddams Goons had killed your father, raped your mother and sister infront of you and then killed them, how would you feel ?
..... we muslims need to be a bit more tolerant in our approach! That goes for both people like Saddam and the rest of the community! ``}

Chingari,
As a fellow Shia I am perplexed by your vengeful attitude. The Shia experience in history is to suffer, to remember the suffering of our sacred Imams, and to forgive the bad Muslims who brought that suffering over them and now us. To behave in a vengeful manner makes us just like those Sunnis who supported Muawiya, Yazid, that Governor of Kufa, and the Ommayyads.

If some relative in Mahmudiya, Iraq closes his/her eyes and recalls the murder rape of the 14 year old girl and her family at the hands of Dubya`s goons, would you say that they would be happy to see el presidente at his own necktie party?

By the way, I agree with your last comment, especially ``AND THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.``

First thing first, I donot agree with the way things were handled, but as a shia muslim i cannot forget the sheer number of intellectuals that were killed in the Saddam Era. The list is long and it can get tiring if one was to investigate the number of intellectuals killed by him. It is for this reason that Shiahs celebrated his death openly. They have to right to celebrate I think. I think a normal shiah Iraqi who lost his brothers , sisters , father and mother at the hands of Saddams Goons wont be feeling sorry for him. Like i always say it is relative! I say close your eyes and imagine if Saddams Goons had killed your father, raped your mother and sister infront of you and then killed them, how would you feel ?

Everything is relative, I dont agree with the way things were handled, we should have completed the investigation of all the charges and then thrown down a verdict! Frankly I think saddam got an easy death , he deserved a much more painful death! Like maybe put to life imprisonment where he would not get to see the daylight ever, and not interact with any human what so ever! Rott to death would have been good!

I personally hate him for all the human beings he killed...... a leader is supposed to gather the whole nation and guide them into the future... not kill one segment of the population and side with the other..... we muslims need to be a bit more tolerant in our approach! That goes for both people like Saddam and the rest of the community!

Re: # 86
[...we muslims need to be a bit more tolerant in our approach! ....]

No kidding? :))