Akber Choudhry January 2, 2007
#65 Posted by Rentipin on January 2, 2007 12:35:18 pm
This was to be expected.On the occassion of Eid-ul-Azha, Muslims offer a sacrifice to Allah.
Munafiqs do too.Except it is not to Allah.Iraqi govt being a case in point.It offered its sacrifice to the Mushriks;the tyrannies of US and UK.
And if the Iraqi govt is under the impression that it has appeased its gods,let it think again.Its only a matter of time and then it`ll be their turn.
Munafiqs do too.Except it is not to Allah.Iraqi govt being a case in point.It offered its sacrifice to the Mushriks;the tyrannies of US and UK.
And if the Iraqi govt is under the impression that it has appeased its gods,let it think again.Its only a matter of time and then it`ll be their turn.
#66 Posted by malik99 on January 2, 2007 1:37:37 pm
The grace and dignity with which Saddam embraced death has clearly left american and british officials at unease. When he stood on the gallows and cooly responded to his tormentors, he seemed like a giant in comparison to Bush who ran from one shelter to another on 9/11 and who took 7 defferments to actively dodge draft when his nation needed him during Vietnam.
Regardless of the merits of his alleged ruthlessness, even the shias of today`s Iraq long for the days when they did not face death squads, kidnappings and 20 hours per day without electricity. His ba`ath party was more inclusive than the puppet regime of today`s iraq. There were Kurds, Christians, and Shias in the upper ecelons of baath`s leadership. Yes, he was ruthless towards those who tried to fragment the country - but then, as author points out, Abraham Lincoln killed millions of fellow americans too to ``preserve the union`` of america.
Sadly, many more thousands of Iraqis will die violent deaths in the coming years. Its middle and intellectual class will continue to disappear. And an entire country will be laid to ruins and fragmented - no longer a threat to the racist Israel.
Regardless of the merits of his alleged ruthlessness, even the shias of today`s Iraq long for the days when they did not face death squads, kidnappings and 20 hours per day without electricity. His ba`ath party was more inclusive than the puppet regime of today`s iraq. There were Kurds, Christians, and Shias in the upper ecelons of baath`s leadership. Yes, he was ruthless towards those who tried to fragment the country - but then, as author points out, Abraham Lincoln killed millions of fellow americans too to ``preserve the union`` of america.
Sadly, many more thousands of Iraqis will die violent deaths in the coming years. Its middle and intellectual class will continue to disappear. And an entire country will be laid to ruins and fragmented - no longer a threat to the racist Israel.
#67 Posted by arjun2 on January 2, 2007 1:48:53 pm
#59 by nasah on January 2, 2007 11:57am PT
In reality, Cheney would have shot Calderon in the face and Calderon would have apologized for the anguish the shooting caused Cheney...
In reality, Cheney would have shot Calderon in the face and Calderon would have apologized for the anguish the shooting caused Cheney...
#68 Posted by Kulharee on January 2, 2007 1:49:12 pm
Re: # 66
Are you talking about the same guy who was hiding in a rat hole while his nation was under attack?
Are you talking about the same guy who was hiding in a rat hole while his nation was under attack?
#69 Posted by hamidm2 on January 2, 2007 1:50:03 pm
masadi,
..... this morning when i went to starbucks i was glad glad that my latte tasted the same even though the man-boy who made it had excercized his freedom to get a few more body piercings over the holidays ........... and i was also pleasently surprised when i discovered that people were still driving on the right side of the road, stopping at red lights and that nobody was peeing on the sidewalk ...............and tonight when i go home the mail will be in the mailbox, the electricity will be on as usual and the water pressure in my tap will be the same old standard 60 psi ................. i love these rules and regulations and get really upset if it drops below 45 psi when i am taking a shower ...........
...... i know that for those like you, who prefer to live in caves and have not heard of indoor plumbing, these things don`t really matter as long as you and your donkey are free to pee in the middle of the road ..............
#71 Posted by arjun2 on January 2, 2007 1:55:57 pm
The reason saddam didn`t go down fighting is because he wanted to look good for the 72 virgins..
saddam got free government dental care...something most Americans can`t get...no co-pay, no long waits in the waiting room..
also got a free haircut, a beard trim and a half decent suit..

72 virgins, here he comes...
saddam got free government dental care...something most Americans can`t get...no co-pay, no long waits in the waiting room..
also got a free haircut, a beard trim and a half decent suit..

72 virgins, here he comes...
#72 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on January 2, 2007 1:56:39 pm
#66, {``The grace and dignity with which Saddam embraced death has clearly left american and british officials at unease. When he stood on the gallows and cooly responded to his tormentors, he seemed like a giant in comparison``}
Malik Sahib,
While sadistic behavior, lack of compassion, utter cruelty, and resort to capital punishment are common facts of Islamic ``civilization,`` what angers me the most is the element of stupidity in Nuri Al-Maliki`s decision to hang Sadman Houston. There was no need to do this. The man was already a failure, a deposed tyrant, and a proven coward who didn`t have the decency to end his own life in the tradition of solid dictators. By hanging Sadman Houston and thanks to the fallen dictator`s incredible bravery and grace, Al-Maliki and the Shiite mafia look like puny, vengeful, undemocratic, and immature rabble.
Now I understand that the Shiite government of Eye Rack is launching its own investigation over how the grisly scene was recorded. Never mind the ugly, stupid, and vengeful lynching that took place. What matters most to this asinine PM is how dare anyone record his stupidity?
What unites Shias and Sunnis is their common cruelty, common stupidity, and common lack of compassion. May the plague of a thousand rats visit BOTH their houses.
Malik Sahib,
While sadistic behavior, lack of compassion, utter cruelty, and resort to capital punishment are common facts of Islamic ``civilization,`` what angers me the most is the element of stupidity in Nuri Al-Maliki`s decision to hang Sadman Houston. There was no need to do this. The man was already a failure, a deposed tyrant, and a proven coward who didn`t have the decency to end his own life in the tradition of solid dictators. By hanging Sadman Houston and thanks to the fallen dictator`s incredible bravery and grace, Al-Maliki and the Shiite mafia look like puny, vengeful, undemocratic, and immature rabble.
Now I understand that the Shiite government of Eye Rack is launching its own investigation over how the grisly scene was recorded. Never mind the ugly, stupid, and vengeful lynching that took place. What matters most to this asinine PM is how dare anyone record his stupidity?
What unites Shias and Sunnis is their common cruelty, common stupidity, and common lack of compassion. May the plague of a thousand rats visit BOTH their houses.
#73 Posted by SaimaShah on January 2, 2007 1:58:53 pm
Colonization, by yet another name.
The difference between the colonial masters--the British vs. the Americans is very key. The first replaced a culture with another culture. The second is replacing with nothing. The slaves of old took on language, art and clothes and they were given `education` to change them, the slaves of today will get nothing. They will merely be exterminated like flies that sit on good fruit. This type of modernity will be bloodier than all the wars of the last century. At last, exhausted, when the Earth has become a junkyard of plastic and chemicals, this modernization will retreat, unable to solve any of the problems it will create.
The difference between the colonial masters--the British vs. the Americans is very key. The first replaced a culture with another culture. The second is replacing with nothing. The slaves of old took on language, art and clothes and they were given `education` to change them, the slaves of today will get nothing. They will merely be exterminated like flies that sit on good fruit. This type of modernity will be bloodier than all the wars of the last century. At last, exhausted, when the Earth has become a junkyard of plastic and chemicals, this modernization will retreat, unable to solve any of the problems it will create.
#74 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on January 2, 2007 2:04:01 pm
#73, {``They will merely be exterminated like flies that sit on good fruit. This type of modernity will be bloodier than all the wars of the last century. At last, exhausted, when the Earth has become a junkyard of plastic and chemicals, this modernization will retreat, unable to solve any of the problems it will create. ``
Saima,
In such a cheerful atmosphere, will it be redundant to wish you a Happy New Year? :)
Saima,
In such a cheerful atmosphere, will it be redundant to wish you a Happy New Year? :)
#75 Posted by arjun2 on January 2, 2007 2:05:06 pm
#73 by SaimaShah on January 2, 2007 1:58pm PT
America`s left it`s cultural mark...
Didn`t you hear the audio with the hanging video...the shia hangman says to saddam ``whatever, loser..you`re, like, totally going to hang`` and then his cell phone rings.. that`s as american culture as it gets....
America`s left it`s cultural mark...
Didn`t you hear the audio with the hanging video...the shia hangman says to saddam ``whatever, loser..you`re, like, totally going to hang`` and then his cell phone rings.. that`s as american culture as it gets....
#76 Posted by masadi on January 2, 2007 2:05:09 pm
jang writes <<< so masadi nothing will please you. pakis have dictators which are welcomed by the awam with gende ka har and dancing in the street but they are not representatives. nancy wins elections but she is not representative either >>>
I would like to know which (dimwitted) political theory are you following in which ``dancing in the streets`` translates as representation? Then when you have thought that through, think about how someone in America, not going through the corridors of either one of two parties, without powerful backing can ``make it`` to the corridors of power
hamid writes <<< masadi,
..... this morning when i went to starbucks i was glad glad >>>
Of course you were ``glad times two`` you don`t know any better. Faithfully adapting to all the rules has narrowed your life and thinking, it scares you to think outside of it, it destroys your humanity and ensures that this ``comfort level`` that you have happily got used to ensures that problems continue from generation to generation. You are more than welcome to a moronic/robotic existence but describing that as ``freedom`` is BS
I would like to know which (dimwitted) political theory are you following in which ``dancing in the streets`` translates as representation? Then when you have thought that through, think about how someone in America, not going through the corridors of either one of two parties, without powerful backing can ``make it`` to the corridors of power
hamid writes <<< masadi,
..... this morning when i went to starbucks i was glad glad >>>
Of course you were ``glad times two`` you don`t know any better. Faithfully adapting to all the rules has narrowed your life and thinking, it scares you to think outside of it, it destroys your humanity and ensures that this ``comfort level`` that you have happily got used to ensures that problems continue from generation to generation. You are more than welcome to a moronic/robotic existence but describing that as ``freedom`` is BS
#77 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on January 2, 2007 2:07:38 pm
#69, Hamidum {`` love these rules and regulations and get really upset if it drops below 45 psi when i am taking a shower ...........
...... i know that for those like you, who prefer to live in caves and have not heard of indoor plumbing, these things don`t really matter as long as you and your donkey are free to pee in the middle of the road .............. ``}
Hamidum Sahib,
If I were Mama Masadi, I would ask you what is the psi when you and your donkey relieve yourselves in unison?
...... i know that for those like you, who prefer to live in caves and have not heard of indoor plumbing, these things don`t really matter as long as you and your donkey are free to pee in the middle of the road .............. ``}
Hamidum Sahib,
If I were Mama Masadi, I would ask you what is the psi when you and your donkey relieve yourselves in unison?
#78 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on January 2, 2007 2:11:12 pm
#68 {``Are you talking about the same guy who was hiding in a rat hole while his nation was under attack? ``}
Kullee Payee,
It`s not nice to refer to an elementary school down South as a ``rat hole.`` And he wasn`t hiding, he was just playing it cool in front of the children.
Kullee Payee,
It`s not nice to refer to an elementary school down South as a ``rat hole.`` And he wasn`t hiding, he was just playing it cool in front of the children.
#79 Posted by masadi on January 2, 2007 2:14:44 pm
``Freedom is not merely the opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over them -- and then, the opportunity to choose.``
(C. Wright Mills)
``Given these effects of the ascendant trend of rationalization, the individual `does the best he can.` He gears his aspirations and his work to the situation he is in, and from which he can find no way out. In due course, he does not seek a way out: he adapts. That part of his life which is left over from work, he uses to play, to consume, `to have fun.` Yet this sphere of consumption is also being rationalized. Alienated from production, from work, he is also alienated from consumption, from genuine leisure. This adaptation of the individual and its effects upon his milieux and self results not only in the loss of his chance, and in due course, of his capacity and will to reason; it also affects his chances and his capacity to act as a free man. Indeed, neither the value of freedom nor of reason, it would seem, are known to him`` (C. Wright Mills ).
(C. Wright Mills)
``Given these effects of the ascendant trend of rationalization, the individual `does the best he can.` He gears his aspirations and his work to the situation he is in, and from which he can find no way out. In due course, he does not seek a way out: he adapts. That part of his life which is left over from work, he uses to play, to consume, `to have fun.` Yet this sphere of consumption is also being rationalized. Alienated from production, from work, he is also alienated from consumption, from genuine leisure. This adaptation of the individual and its effects upon his milieux and self results not only in the loss of his chance, and in due course, of his capacity and will to reason; it also affects his chances and his capacity to act as a free man. Indeed, neither the value of freedom nor of reason, it would seem, are known to him`` (C. Wright Mills ).
#80 Posted by arjun2 on January 2, 2007 2:16:04 pm
#76 by masadi on January 2, 2007 2:05pm PT
I would like to know which (dimwitted) political theory are you following in which ``dancing in the streets`` translates as representation?
It translated into acceptance...which is why they do it again and again...and which is why the Indian army has never overthrown an elected government....
I would like to know which (dimwitted) political theory are you following in which ``dancing in the streets`` translates as representation?
It translated into acceptance...which is why they do it again and again...and which is why the Indian army has never overthrown an elected government....
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