Nehru’s Legacy: Time to pay tribute

Re: # 841

How come we do not see any tokens in Bakistan (thats how you bedou masters call your country). Oh I forget Bakis are against tokens they believe in general welfare and upliftment of the non muslims and minorities. So all billionaires in Bak are actually Hindus and Christians and like the famous software companies of Bak about whom nobody has heard one has also not heard of the rich and famous Baki Hindus and Xtians.

Bhaiyon yeh bhi hamari galti hai.

Regards
Sanatani

Re: # 838

Not at all. The idea was to give on only contiguous areas where any section had a distinct majority. Anyway the CHT should never have gone to you but we did not make a stink about it.

Also you keep harping about promises given by Jinnah to the Sikhs. What about Jinnahs statement that Pakistan would be a secular nation and that Ahmadis would be considered Muslims. Oh I forgot this was just a statement not a promise.

Regards
Sanatani

``#841 by Mantolives on January 16, 2007 5:40am PT
but if I mention famous Pakistani non-Muslim patriots... you balk``

how many names can you come up with dude. for every one names you mention, we indians can mention 10 more names.

except for a few tokens like rana bhagwandas, deepak perwani, danish kaneria and a few christians, you guys have nothing to show us. and as someone rightly pointed out that being the general of the indian army, being the prime minister of india are tokens, then you need to admit yourself in a mental asylum.

``#840 by VRV on January 16, 2007 5:00am PT
Dev, Can u straighten dog`s tail? If yes, try for it. If no, then accpet the fact.``

i accept the fact vrv. i publicly apologise to monto for trying to straighten his tail. i accept the fact that a the tail of a dog and monto cannot be straightened.

rgds,

devkant.

``[H]e`ll have been proved to have been one of the greatest men in any country at any time in history`` Mountbatten upon unveiling Nehru`s portrait in India House in London.
Video here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8369350139923914359&pr=goog-sl

``chittagong hill tracts(CHT) which inspite of being 97% nonmuslim population was awarded to pakistan.``

Why, UBA? Was that done to make the administration of different areas easier?

Praising Nehru/gandhi or jinnah is like a hijra performing fellatio on a kanjar.....lowest of the low

#834 by sanatani

Raja Tridev Roy was the Federal Minister for Tourism in ZAB`s time, and ZAB had great confidence in his abilities. Raja Roy did a great job during his tenure in promoting tourism in the Northern Areas of Pakistan, and was immensely popular as a public figure.

So don`t believe this `token` crap.

# 834

sanatani ,

u mentioned about raja roy.

plz check the background of this chap. he was a feudal from the chittagong hill tracts(CHT)
which inspite of being 97% nonmuslim population was awarded to pakistan. He died in 1975. But before his death , he bitterly regreted his decision of backing pakistan & abandoning his own people (the chakmas).

An IAS officer(with chakma background) had an oppurtunity to interact with this chap & has mentioned him in details in his memoirs.

The same story is about Jogindranath Mandal(an SC/OBC ?) who died exiled in india !

In the Land of the Pure, they were nothing more than ``token figures`` , Jogindranath realised it much early & that Roy much later.

Re: # 831
Better than being roasted in India for being a Christian or a Muslim don`t you think?


Whatever you say buddy.. With your neo-Dalit Muslim background, I have to empathise with you.. Your father is the best example of a non-Muslim patriot of Pakistan. :-)

Yasser,

Jogindranath Namdal was a token.

Prime Minister, Army Chief, Planning Commission heads cant be called tokens.

It looks like that ur stuck `there` again!

#841 by Mantolives

Awww so many Sikh heroes in a country like India - wow. Yes ``Tokens`` are good enough when talking of India... but if I mention famous Pakistani non-Muslim patriots... you balk.

They may be ``famous Paki non-Muslim patriots`` alright, but how the Paki state treats them is there for everyone to see. Abdus Salam and all that stuff.

As for Sikhs being ``tokens``, you have proved yourself to be more foolish than I imagined. When ``tokens`` become as commonplace as Sikhs are in India, they are not tokens anymore, only an utter idiot would imagine them to be so. OTOH, rare examples like Rana Bhagwan Das, Deepak Parwani, and Danish Kaneria, and that Sikh soldier are indeed tokens, for you would be hard-pressed to name more than a dozen of them.

Awww so many Sikh heroes in a country like India - wow. Yes ``Tokens`` are good enough when talking of India... but if I mention famous Pakistani non-Muslim patriots... you balk.
However... the Golden Temple issue is infront of you.

Re: # 839

devkant,

``..next time monto, please give everyone a balanced view.``

Dev, Can u straighten dog`s tail? If yes, try for it. If no, then accpet the fact.

In the meanwhile we talk the subject, let him talk rubbish.

``#828 by majumdar on January 15, 2007 5:01am PT
(Instead they chose Golden Temple massacre. )

Dr. Manmohan Singh, Ranbaxy as well. ``

you see mujumdar....this is the problem with monto...selective reading and commenting. the dude does not know that sikhs apart from choosing golden temple massacre also chose dr. manmohan singh and ranbaxy as you have mentioned.

let me add that they also chose the following: -

1) Max india,
2) appolo tyres,
3) domination of car spare parts business in bombay,
4) general jj singh,
5) dr. montek singh ahluwalia,
6) jj vallaya,
7) model jesse randhawa,
8) rabbi shergil,
9) daler mehdi,
10) jagjit singh
11) ex miss indian manpreet brar,
12) Bishen Singh Bedi,
13) Balwinder Sandhu,
14) Navjot Singh Sidhu
15) Mandira Bedi

and god alone knows how many more such things can be added to what the sikhs chose in india.

next time monto, please give everyone a balanced view.

rgds,

devkant.

Sanatani,

The issue was of reconstituting a new centre or centres around existing units.

If Hindus and Sikhs in Punjab and Bengal were to be given an option of seceding... then Muslims of all provnces of India should have given the same choice..

hence small Pakistan enclaves

Re: # 835

Yes... HP ... don`t you know Wolpert is on ISI payroll... the same ISI which is out to bump Sadna.