Aisha Sarwari January 3, 2007
#25 Posted by Zeena on January 5, 2007 7:02:03 am
Dear aisha_sarwari
Well said. Believe me I would be the first one to applaud a really GOOD EFFORT, if, I feel it is. In my POV it wasn`t a good effort either.
So, there is no question of being egoistic here. That was my honest opinion that I strongly felt about it.
May be if I weren`t that much crazy about the original Phantom of Opera, I would have applauded the mere effort of Lahore one.
Lahore`s Phantom of Opera was a totally weak grip with poor performance of all the characters.
Let me give you an example to compare with.
I love Noor Jehan`s almost all songs, now whenever I hear some new singers imitating her songs in a thrid rated way, I feel sad about it. Its like belittling actual Noor Jehan`s songs.
I hope I am clear about my POV.
Thanks for your respons.
Well said. Believe me I would be the first one to applaud a really GOOD EFFORT, if, I feel it is. In my POV it wasn`t a good effort either.
So, there is no question of being egoistic here. That was my honest opinion that I strongly felt about it.
May be if I weren`t that much crazy about the original Phantom of Opera, I would have applauded the mere effort of Lahore one.
Lahore`s Phantom of Opera was a totally weak grip with poor performance of all the characters.
Let me give you an example to compare with.
I love Noor Jehan`s almost all songs, now whenever I hear some new singers imitating her songs in a thrid rated way, I feel sad about it. Its like belittling actual Noor Jehan`s songs.
I hope I am clear about my POV.
Thanks for your respons.
#24 Posted by Aisha_Sarwari on January 5, 2007 12:39:21 am
Dear Zeena,
``I am madly in love with Broadway Phantom of Opera and I can`t bear any third class imitation of my beloved musical.``
Only a fool can compare the real musical, which by the way I have attended, since I worked in NY and SF, where the best of US theater is created and have done a significant portion of my undergrad in theater, a department affiliated with UCLA`s. I know what real theater is and this was indeed a far cry.
What is sad is someone like you who claims to love it, would not even lend moral support to a sincerely good effort to a grassroots production like Center Stage Productions. Good theater is more than just flawless drama and great splendor. Its about the ability to transport an audience to another world. This play did just that and at no point did it stretch believability.
Step off your ego and applaud a good effort when you see one. If theater that you watch promotes elitism then please feel free to trumpet the handful of plays you attended.
Aisha Sarwari
``I am madly in love with Broadway Phantom of Opera and I can`t bear any third class imitation of my beloved musical.``
Only a fool can compare the real musical, which by the way I have attended, since I worked in NY and SF, where the best of US theater is created and have done a significant portion of my undergrad in theater, a department affiliated with UCLA`s. I know what real theater is and this was indeed a far cry.
What is sad is someone like you who claims to love it, would not even lend moral support to a sincerely good effort to a grassroots production like Center Stage Productions. Good theater is more than just flawless drama and great splendor. Its about the ability to transport an audience to another world. This play did just that and at no point did it stretch believability.
Step off your ego and applaud a good effort when you see one. If theater that you watch promotes elitism then please feel free to trumpet the handful of plays you attended.
Aisha Sarwari
#23 Posted by scout_new on January 4, 2007 11:33:29 pm
``Instead of imitating Broadway musicals , why can`t Pakis concentrate upon their own new inventions with better outcome? ``
There are lots of theater groups all over the world who perform Broadway musicals, they all do it differently. And something like the original ``Phantom...`` is very hard to beat, I totally agree.
But you can`t stop people from trying.
I just hope if they were as bad as you say, they try to improve or make some changes.
There are lots of theater groups all over the world who perform Broadway musicals, they all do it differently. And something like the original ``Phantom...`` is very hard to beat, I totally agree.
But you can`t stop people from trying.
I just hope if they were as bad as you say, they try to improve or make some changes.
#22 Posted by Zeena on January 4, 2007 9:27:07 pm
#19
Hey, scout
My dear friend
Well, you make all the sense. I don`t wish to belittle Pakistanis artists efforts at any cost. The thing is I am madly in love with Broadway Phantom of Opera and I can`t bear any third class imitation of my beloved musical.
And, sadly I saw this Lahore musical quite recently , so, am quite emotional about it.
I can`t watch the ruined musical.
Instead of imitating Broadway musicals , why can`t Pakis concentrate upon their own new inventions with better outcome?
Why to destroy the best Broadway musical?
They should do whatever they are good @.
I am back from Pakistan. It was a good trip.
Hey, scout
My dear friend
Well, you make all the sense. I don`t wish to belittle Pakistanis artists efforts at any cost. The thing is I am madly in love with Broadway Phantom of Opera and I can`t bear any third class imitation of my beloved musical.
And, sadly I saw this Lahore musical quite recently , so, am quite emotional about it.
I can`t watch the ruined musical.
Instead of imitating Broadway musicals , why can`t Pakis concentrate upon their own new inventions with better outcome?
Why to destroy the best Broadway musical?
They should do whatever they are good @.
I am back from Pakistan. It was a good trip.
#21 Posted by Zeena on January 4, 2007 9:13:27 pm
#20 ZahraJ
Look at your repetitive and rather annoying interactions with me over and over again like a parrot.
wawawa, If, your microcephalic mind is unable to comprehend my posts#1, #4, #7, #9, #10
, #13, #15 and # 16, then I feel sorry for your state of mind.
My sincere advice for you is to do some research on broadway musical, specially Phantom of Opera. Do some google search and then you might be able to make some sense out of your idiotic and senseless interactions with echolalia.
I know it hurts, my dear. You`re taking my POVs way too, seriously. Don`t take`em @ heart and your pea B, otherwise you`ll endup bewildering in a confused state of mind.
I didn`t start interacting with you ever, you`re the one jumping back and forth with all this hoopla and then attacking my POV with your own idiocy. For heaven`s sake , try to make some sense.
I don`t find you capable enough of any sort of discussions in the past, present and future.
So, keep out of my way.
Thanks
#20 Posted by ZahraJ on January 4, 2007 6:55:40 pm
Zeena -
If after watching the play 6 times, you could not compose a reasonable and succinct comparison of what was ``bad`` or ``required improvement`` in the Phantom you watched in Lahore, then I suggest that you watch the play again 6 times. Once you are done with that, then we will discuss musicals, lyrics, stage, performance, characters, ambience, and delivery. Till, then I suggest that you enjoy the beautiful lyrics -
(I loved the songs)
Christine
``In sleep he sang to me, In dreams he came,
That voice which calls to me, And speaks my name.
And do I dream again? For now I find.
The Phantom of the Opera is there - Inside my mind.``
Phantom
Sing once again with me, our strange duet,
My power over you, grows stronger yet.
And though you turn from me, to glance behind.
The Phantom of the Opera is there - Inside your mind.``
Take Care
Bye
If after watching the play 6 times, you could not compose a reasonable and succinct comparison of what was ``bad`` or ``required improvement`` in the Phantom you watched in Lahore, then I suggest that you watch the play again 6 times. Once you are done with that, then we will discuss musicals, lyrics, stage, performance, characters, ambience, and delivery. Till, then I suggest that you enjoy the beautiful lyrics -
(I loved the songs)
Christine
``In sleep he sang to me, In dreams he came,
That voice which calls to me, And speaks my name.
And do I dream again? For now I find.
The Phantom of the Opera is there - Inside my mind.``
Phantom
Sing once again with me, our strange duet,
My power over you, grows stronger yet.
And though you turn from me, to glance behind.
The Phantom of the Opera is there - Inside your mind.``
Take Care
Bye
#19 Posted by scout_new on January 4, 2007 3:08:32 pm
Zeena,
I don`t think we should belittle the efforts of Pakistani artists. If anything we should engage in CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. If I had been there, and felt that the performance was lacking... I would have tried to get in touch with the artists or producers and talked to them about it.
Hope your trip is going well. Take care
I don`t think we should belittle the efforts of Pakistani artists. If anything we should engage in CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. If I had been there, and felt that the performance was lacking... I would have tried to get in touch with the artists or producers and talked to them about it.
Hope your trip is going well. Take care
#18 Posted by soysauce on January 4, 2007 10:49:18 am
#12 I don`t quite understand the point - Bhutto was hanged even tho he went on a hunger strike - you should ask your pakistani husband how these things work - at any rate, you should have spiced it with sexual escapades of Gandhiji & Nehru so you`d have a lot of hits. Now even Yasser is hanging out at the other boards..
#16 Posted by Zeena on January 4, 2007 7:07:30 am
#11 ZahraJ
Just to remind you incase you have brain dementia, this article is about Phantom of Opera.
So, if we won`t discuss Phantom of Opera in this article, what will we discuss?
So, my advice to your lack of insight is to keep yourself reminding about the exact topic of the article for future articles.
I am NOT the topic of this article(as you made it very obvious)
Please, thank me NOT for this excellent advice. My pleasure.
Just to remind you incase you have brain dementia, this article is about Phantom of Opera.
So, if we won`t discuss Phantom of Opera in this article, what will we discuss?
So, my advice to your lack of insight is to keep yourself reminding about the exact topic of the article for future articles.
I am NOT the topic of this article(as you made it very obvious)
Please, thank me NOT for this excellent advice. My pleasure.
#15 Posted by Zeena on January 4, 2007 6:28:01 am
correction for #13
BTW, try to learn how to develop a refined taste in future......Thanks
BTW, try to learn how to develop a refined taste in future......Thanks
#14 Posted by jang on January 4, 2007 6:28:01 am
this is a good start. pls post the reviews of Ramleela held during the next Dussera.
#13 Posted by Zeena on January 4, 2007 6:26:04 am
#11 ZahraJ
Rather its you who seems annoying and appears tasteless or clueless about what you`re trying to convince me about my taste and not only about my taste , but, about a refined taste of thousands of those who are obsessed with Phantom of Opera (The real one).
FYI, Phantom of Opera (broadway) doesn`t appeal only me, but, masses from all over the world. People make special tours to see exclusivley this particular musical on Broadway.
And, Please try to avoid negative criticism upon other people`s opinions. Everyone has hius/her own right of opinion.
You`re the one who started this idiotic and repetitive interaction with me. I don`t.
And, please stay out of my way in future.
Good luck
BTW, try to learn who to develop a refined taste in future, but, for someone like you I would rather suggest to stick with Lahore Phantom of Opera(Your kind of refined taste is unable to recognise black and white.)
No more Phantom of Opera interactions , please.
Rather its you who seems annoying and appears tasteless or clueless about what you`re trying to convince me about my taste and not only about my taste , but, about a refined taste of thousands of those who are obsessed with Phantom of Opera (The real one).
FYI, Phantom of Opera (broadway) doesn`t appeal only me, but, masses from all over the world. People make special tours to see exclusivley this particular musical on Broadway.
And, Please try to avoid negative criticism upon other people`s opinions. Everyone has hius/her own right of opinion.
You`re the one who started this idiotic and repetitive interaction with me. I don`t.
And, please stay out of my way in future.
Good luck
BTW, try to learn who to develop a refined taste in future, but, for someone like you I would rather suggest to stick with Lahore Phantom of Opera(Your kind of refined taste is unable to recognise black and white.)
No more Phantom of Opera interactions , please.
#12 Posted by Aisha_Sarwari on January 4, 2007 1:38:59 am
Re: # 2
Don`t say that, I edited the part out where the possibility of a hanging him would be futile given his dramatic fasts.
Don`t say that, I edited the part out where the possibility of a hanging him would be futile given his dramatic fasts.
#11 Posted by ZahraJ on January 3, 2007 11:00:34 pm
Zeena -
Thank you for your not so informative post. It`s like saying that what appeals to me is great and what doesn`t is worthless. What if someone holds an opposite opinion? That must mean that they have no clue. What`s that you did not like in the 20 minutes? You could not spell it out. Please do not post 10 times repeating the same post. That`s annoying.
Out of curioisty, why did you need to watch the play so many times? Don`t tell me there is nothing left on-and-off broadway. I suggest picking the latest Time-Out when you visit your next destination. It will tell you a lot more than you`d like to know :)
Good Luck!
No more Phantom(s) of the Opera!
I suggest refining your taste :)
Thank you for your not so informative post. It`s like saying that what appeals to me is great and what doesn`t is worthless. What if someone holds an opposite opinion? That must mean that they have no clue. What`s that you did not like in the 20 minutes? You could not spell it out. Please do not post 10 times repeating the same post. That`s annoying.
Out of curioisty, why did you need to watch the play so many times? Don`t tell me there is nothing left on-and-off broadway. I suggest picking the latest Time-Out when you visit your next destination. It will tell you a lot more than you`d like to know :)
Good Luck!
No more Phantom(s) of the Opera!
I suggest refining your taste :)
#10 Posted by Zeena on January 3, 2007 10:34:18 pm
Broadway Phantom of Opera is not just a musical, it is a PHENOMENON in itself. It is a History in itself.
But, who knows Pakis will invent some superb and new Phantom of Opera, just like their movies.
But, who knows Pakis will invent some superb and new Phantom of Opera, just like their movies.
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