Making a Martyr of Saddam

Re: # 10

Either you are naive or you do not want to accept what`s missing among the Muslims. It`s ok. On a recent cab ride, the cab driver (a Moroccan) made a few very interesting remarks. According to him:

- A leader like Saddam did not deserve this fate.
- Since he was a Muslim, it was inhuman to give him death penalty.
- Maliki has neither any moral courage nor guts to implement such a drastic step. (Exactly your sentiments)
- No matter how bad a Muslim leader is, he does not deserve to be killed. (It`s his born right to be brutal)
- Every leader kills and it`s an essential part of rising up. (Since he knew a little about Pakistani leadership in the past, he tried to draw some parallels and spoke passionately about the Moroccan Kings and their shenanigans.)
- The issue of 1980s killing was a facade. (Since the killing of Kurds was not even stamped and proven by any deity, therefore those Kurds must have been hallucinating.)
- It was terrible that a fellow Muslim was executed on the day of Eid.
- When Saddam was alive, none of the sectarian issues ever arose. (Obviously!)

I won`t be surprised if majority of the Muslim world thinks like that. Ironically, majority of the Muslim world completely ignores the hovering bad karma on their fellow Muslim brethren who belong to a different sect in Iraq. Did the Iraqis stop killing on holy days and special events? If they did, then we must appreciate the discipline among the Iraqi Muslims. Beyond that, there is nothing to be said.

Ah that executioner-face Maliki and his fat puppet neck -- if I was not an opponent of capital punishment -- I would have loved to put the noose around his made-in-heaven-for-hangin neck -- and pulled the trap door on that blot-on-a shia-martyrdom......

#10, Malik Sahib

Very fitting remark - if the situation were not so morbid, I would say that your rebuttal was quite funny.

zahraJ # 6 writes ``Why is that Muslims think that every step in Iraq is dictated, planned and executed by the Americans?``

I think it may have something to do with the presence of 150,000 american soldiers, thousands of tanks, artillary, bomber planes, gun ship helicopters, and the small fact that Maliki owes his very life to the american protection.

But I am not sure.

He who pays the piper calls the tunes

we don`t need to say anything else ....... the best quotation ever .....................i think said for the same situation

Mr. Ghori,

Having said what I said in #7 and having agreed with your well-presented case against the occupiers, I must emphasize that, in the final analysis, the responsibility for justice and freedom lies with the natives. Whether it`s Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Pakistan, or Somalia, the citizens of each of these countries have to learn not to let foreigners dictate the agenda of their lives. They have to stop becoming canon fodder for the nefarious goals of mullahs, dictators, kings, demagogues, and tribal chiefs. They have to learn to respect AND love each other, regardless of creed, sect, race, province, or tribe. Secularism, true democracy, rule of law, and equality for everyone will be the eventual salvation of the people in our neck of the woods. There is no point in blaming others for our own shortcomings. People, even those who wish you harm, tend to respect those who respect themselves. As for Muslims, respect is too high a goal; we need to learn to tolerate each other and those who are unfortunate to live among us.

Ghori Sahib,
Extremely well-written article with a uniquely captivating condemnation of a thoroughly bankrupt, diabolical, and immoral agenda. I agree that the more appropriate place to try Sadman Houston would have been The Hague. Mr. Ghori, you have articulated a well-sequenced accusation against the perpetual perpetrators of evil and their vengeful clients in Baghdad.

As a Shia, I totally resent and wholeheartedly refute the puppet Maliki`s subservient complicity in this orchestrated murder. Maliki`s merciless Interior Ministry goons, on loan from a perverted Shiite cleric`s personal militia, torture, kill, and terrorize Iraqi civilians who happen to be Sunnis. Maliki stands exposed as the little terror in the schoolyard who wants to eat his victims alive only when they have been overpowered by intervening grownups.

[The Americans have no doubt used the client Maliki regime in Baghdad to do their dirty work. The whole operation, from beginning to end, carries American finger- prints all over it, just as Saddam’s sham and flimsy ‘show’ trial did, from beginning to end. ]

Mr. Ghori - Did you even read Maliki`s stance? Why is that Muslims think that every step in Iraq is dictated, planned and executed by the Americans?

Another well-articulated piece on this sorry episode. The description of Bush as a bankrupt gambler - who knows he`ll get it all back at the end - is quite apt. Far from the sure-footed ``war president`` as he saw himself in an audacious flourish, encouraged by a conniving and manipulating coterie of yes-men, he`s now exposed as a bumbling idiot, true to his severely limited ability to be good at anything other than being a ``nice guy to have a beer with.``

``But this sordid episode adds yet another feather of ignominy and shame in the cap of the Muslim world``.
I post a similar reaction from a humanbeing:
daunting voice --of Bob Ellis, Australian, ABC Breakfast Radio National programme of 3rd January at 7-30 am--Rashid:-

``Breakfast`s guest this morning is the author of 17 books. He`s a journalist, speech writer and endearing rogue who has been described as a ``wise romatic fool`` - Who else could it be but Bob Ellis who is appalled by the hanging of Saddam Hussein.
***
`With its usual stunning incompetence, the Bush administration has made of Saddam`s hanging a secular Golgotha for Arab children to revere down the centuries.
The hero behaves impeccably, and as the rope tightens, his captors in black hoods jeer and curse him, shouting the name of his enemy Moqtada, and interrupt his final prayer of surrender to God, by dropping him prematurely from the scaffold and filming his swinging corpse and open eyes.
They then in a US helicopter take his coffin, demanding it be interred by night lest a great crowd gather, to a graveyard containing his two sons and grandson Mustafa, hereinafter a tribal shrine.
By this they hoped to draw a line beneath his ugly era. They have instead opened up a fissure in the Arab world, and a stink in the nostrils of Christendom, which can only grow.
On a holy day, on a Head of State, on a Biblical scaffold like a Rembrandt painting, after a dodgy trial in which three of his lawyers were shot, and after the pornographic filming of a death that no reporter, unprecedentedly, was allowed to see, Maliki and Bush have shown themselves to be diplomatic farceurs, who have made an Abu Ghraib of what could have been a national cleansing.` ``

``It wasn’t a crime to fit the description of ‘a crime against humanity.’ ``

Paki Islamists trying to incite the Ummah by ``proving`` how the Iraqi court was wrong, how the judge was biased and pass their verdict declaring SH as an innocent ``martyr`` in the light of the global conspiracy and Crusades by the christian west .

The shias in Iraq are jubilant over Saddam`s murder. It doesnt` matter
that Saddam had shia majority in his cabinet. It doesn`t matter that a
foreign invader has their country occupied and is using them to secure
a foothold. It doesn`t matter that american soldiers are raping and killing
their countrymen en masse. The US admin is giving 10 year stay assess-
ments to Congress and has started building forts in Iraq which is going
to serve as their future colony. None of this could have been possible
without shia help.

In return, shia militias have gotten a blank check to wreak mass scale
mayhem and murder on Sunnis. Karbala ka inteqaam ?.

In 1991, when Baghdad was being pounded for days on end, I remember
a CNN reporter remarking that despite being hit so hard, the lights were
on in the city. The camera panned over to a deserted highway which
was lit up with bright lights in the middle of the night. Today, Baghdad
is lucky to get electricity for an hour/day. Aside from his dignified and
brave exit, Saddam will be remembered for building and holding a nation
together.

I hope Bush sends a lot more G.I.s to Iraq which come back and push up
daisies in Arlington cemetery. So that future generations will dare not look
towards the Muslim world as easy pickings, the shias notwithstanding.

It is simple: Jiski laaThi, uski bhains. He who pays the piper calls the tunes!

Goering, at the Nuremberg Trials (another show trial), said: When we were in power, we did whatever we wanted. Now you (the Allies) are in power, you do whatever you want.

The same is true in Iraq.