I, Consumer

zeemax writes <<< Hamidm has a hell of an inferiority complex. Skin colour has nothing to do with attractiveness ... rather it is the grace, poise, bone structure, carriage, personality,and so forth which is attractive to either sex >>>

Zeemax mian don`t be so hard on hamid 2pack, atleast he is being honest in telling us about the object of his worship, he links beauty with being white....on the other hand the hypocrite/snake tahmed believes the same, even more strongly than hamid, but he hides it behind other attributes of being beautiful and lo and behold he applies all those fine attributes moreso to the white man/woman than to anyone else.

The white race has been the dominant agenda setter for a while now, and they explicity and implicity impose a relationship of superior/subordinate on the races they rule over in order to colonize minds and souls....that is the reason why white appears the `most beautiful` to the colonized minds and the aspects of the attributes you mention that appear `beautiful`` are linked more with being white or like-white. Few have the good fortune to rescue themselves from the belly of this beast and the human wasteland aka America, after which colonized minds are destroying their true personalities to imitate their masters. You should feel sorry for them, go easy on the poor souls, these rank racists, the explicit truthful ones like hamid and the snakes and lying hypocrites like tahmed...

I don`t believe in this consumerism driving economies. Well at least not for ever...automation is driving the production compenent directly attributable to humans to diminimus relevancy. In another 100 years, we are not going to be making anything..we will be buying and selling things made by machines and speculating on their derivatives.

Re: # 124

that is a question for Dr. Sohail, Arjun, not this board....

#120 by saminasha2 on January 8, 2007 7:51am PT


I think its a bit bizarre that you are so threatened by Black Civilizations that you half wittedly reduce the Black world to a female body part


I do the same for whites, orientals and other asians...Am I threatened by those civilizations too?

Akheya kise ne Majnoo kuN,
teri Laila rang di kali.
Ageyon Majnun Jatt farmaiya,
teri akh na wekhan Aali.
Chitte verk Koran de jitay siyahe rang di kali.
Akhe Ghulam Farid, jithe dil adrape,
hove rang di gori ya kali

Re: # 121

have a go at the sonnet :)

#119 Will there be a test on this poem? Are we to memorize it? Should we also be able to parse the sentences??

Stukay,

I think its a bit bizarre that you are so threatened by Black Civilizations that you half wittedly reduce the Black world to a female body part, the achievement and history of all African Americans to your brief experience at a low wage job. The first claim made is mind boggling in its ignorance and the second claim is a facetious and pernicious attempt at the model minority myth. Especially since you werent truly in the same socio-eco bracket of the community in which you were laboring.

The busy girl buys beauty
The pretty girl buys style
And the simple girl buys
What she`s told to buy
And sees her world
Through the brightly lit eyes
Of the glossy romance of fashion
Where she can learn...
Top tips for the gas cook
Successful secrets of a sexual kind
The daily drill for beautiful hair
And the truth about pain

What was Anna Ford wearing?
What did Angela Rippon say?
What will you do
When you wake up one morning
To find that God`s made you plain
In a beautiful person`s world?
And all those quick recipes
Have let you down
And you`re 20½ and not yet engaged
Will you go look for the boy who says
I love you let`s get married and have kids

The busy girl buys beauty
The pretty girl buys style
And the simple girl buys
What she`s told to buy
Through the brightly lit eyes
Of the glossy romance of fashion
Where she can learn...
Top tips for the gas cook
Successful secrets of a sexual kind
The daily drill for beautiful hair
In a mail order paradise...


Billy Bragg

#117 by arjun2

Hey .. thanks for the unexpected honour of not attacking Paks/Jehadis in this post ... how come? If you`ve turned a new leaf then perhaps we can have a conversation about consumerism ... otherwise it will end up in the same name calling.

#116 by zeemax on January 8, 2007 5:33am PT


consumerism PROVIDED the basic necessities of survival with dignity have been provided to all and sundry,


That`s a failed approach...consumerism boosts the economy and that is what makes it possible for the most vulnerable sections of society to get their basic needs...roti kapda aur makan...somebody had to make that bottle of shampoo...and that somebody probably needed bricks laid...which created opportunity for a bricklayer somewhere...

Author,

Thus ads set standards for things like success, beauty and other stuff. Now more than ever, people consider success to be a post paid connection and glamour to be locked into a bottle of shampoo.

Very well said. This is the crux of the matter and deepens the social divide between the haves and the have nots.

There`s nothing wrong with consumerism PROVIDED the basic necessities of survival with dignity have been provided to all and sundry, alongwith equal opportunity to aspire to attain further goodies. It is all a matter of use of resources. You can make capital goods first to generate further capital, or consumer goods to be consumed and add to the garbage heap. After all, how many brands of soap does one need? The aim is just to wash one`s stupid mug.

In short, consumerism is good for the fully developed countries with saturated capital industries, who need constant product differentiation and built-in obsolescence to create further demand, but poison for us folks who import paper clips from China.

Thanks for the article. I was too busy with Saddam (R.I.P) to read it earlier !

Beautiful, white skin people are used to makeover a theme that our population is immune to believe. This skin color issue is as much expansive as of the industrial tactics of advertisments is concerned in a global way.
The more concerned thing is that our industry is only a producer of cosmetic soaps, some creams and mouthwashs and toothpastes. We have no concerns in the health industry to have easily available medicines of chronic diseases. There are 1001 brands of soap that are claiming to remove the germs and safeguarding against diseases. I am sure teh old lifebouy can still serve the purpose if all the medicated soaps and their slogans go away. A cold cream with one brand name can smoothen skins. The whole psychy of dark people is played in the region where people are not aware that if they get sick they wont get medicine easily. This Eid there was an acute shortage of many medicines in the drug stores that are life savers and gives relief to the infected diseases that are viral in this season. But we know ``Shan Masala`` can cook everything that we think in mind. All these cosmetic havoc is just drifting our nation from major problems that needs to be engineered and taken care of.
We majority of us have no idea what to do if a product fails our satisfaction. Can we speak for our consumer rights in courts.
What are they giving us in the form of milk. Which active ingredient is letting a milk a perished entity to survive more than months unspoiled. However only tetra packaging doesnt do miracle. Are our kids taking poison. And the milk brands are increasing as our buffaloes are increasing every length of day. Of an estimate there are not enough cattles to give milk for Karachi itself. Nor there is enough fodder. Then how milk is flowing like in heaven. Why these multimillionare companies not argued by the nation. There is scarcity of pure milk in evey town of Pakistan then how these mills are making milk in first instance.

Advertisments targeting comes in second phase. We are not in any position to crrirtize a product from becoming a part of our surrounding. The companies will keep healing us with mouth watering creams and our tears by rose petal tissues. We will have a handsome pack of milk thinking it a best dairy product and will slowly converge to the absolute diseases of cancers, but thats already late. Our doctors are selling them for soap ads, cream ads as if there is no tomorrow for them.

sobia: on #112, just to clarify: i didnt mean to #112 the way it reads - hamidm and stuka are in fact two of the smartest and most decent people on chowk.

This is crazy. Hamidm has a hell of an inferiority complex. Skin colour has nothing to do with attractiveness ... rather it is the grace, poise, bone structure, carriage, personality,and so forth which is attractive to either sex. Now if Hamidm was to argue that all these characteristics are more to be found in the white races than any other, I would accept that as a genuine argument being based on limited personal experience. However, I would tell him (from anecdotal evidence, I hasten to add) that Ethiopian hookers in Dubai charge about three times as much as the Italians, and about ten times as much as white Russians, precisely for the qualities mentioned above.

Anyway ... let him continue with misinterpreting Tazuk-e-Baburi and Ghalib`s references to siah `o` sufaid.

#107 sobia: please dont generalize about desi men. all of us are not as stupid as we look. :-)