Last Gasp of the Imperial Misadventure

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#160...no a contemporary Punjabi poet - Surjit Patar.

``Hinduan, SikhaN, MusalmanaN di bheeRh choN,
Rabb dhoon`Da phirda mera banda kidhar giya?``

Dulla -- who wrote that beautiful couplet -- Guru Nanak sahib?

Hinduan, SikhaN, MusalmanaN di bheeRh choN,
Rabb dhoon`Da phirda mera banda kidhar giya?

ikk shakhash si iss shehar wich sacha kidhar giya?
paTharaN de shehar choN sheesha kidhar giya?

good man Parathab -- here is another one that you would like to hang on the wall:
``Hindu hai ek ankh mussalman doosree`` -- we need stereoscopic vision for prespective -- to prevent us from falling on our face...!

another one that you may not like to hang is this one :

dair ko Hindu kee masjid ko mussalmaaN ki talash
kho gaiee iss khoj meiN insaaN ko insaaN ki talash

dair means Mandir -- the last one is mine.

now you can teach your kids:

Hindu nu banega nu mussalmaan bunay ga
insaan ki aulad hai insaan bunay ga

just tell them to be careful who they marry -- only insaan ki aulad!



Insaan ki aulad hai insaan bunay ga

Will some one tell me how you `convert` from Shia to Sunni -- and from Sunni to Shia...?

Re: # 154
[....how you `convert` from Shia to Sunni -- and from Sunni to Shia...?...]

Ask YLH, he has converted from ahmedi to sunni to shia to ismaili... he has done all combinations possible...:)

nasah: #152

Great Question. But I think it`s a one way street. It`s much easier to leave both of them. I am reminded of a song of an Indian film:

Mein Hindu banoo`n ga nah Musalmaan banoo`n ga
Insaan ki aulad hoon` insaan banoo`n ga

Mohammad Gill

Re: # 153

Wah!

Mein Hindu banoo`n ga nah Musalmaan banoo`n ga
Insaan ki aulad hoon` insaan banoo`n ga

I could frame that on my wall. How I wish more people could read that.

Re: # 153
``It`s much easier to leave both of them. I am reminded of a song of an Indian film:

Mein Hindu banoo`n ga nah Musalmaan banoo`n ga
Insaan ki aulad hoon` insaan banoo`n ga........``(freethinker)

Freethinker -- I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly -- as far I am concerned plague be on both houses....for what they are doing to each other in Iraq.

Will some one tell me how you `convert` from Shia to Sunni -- and from Sunni to Shia...?

``Free``thinker writes <<< President Bush is imperialistic in his foreign policy but thank God he will be gone in 2 years >>>

American foreign policy, and neo-colonization of the world did not start with Bush, and it will not end with Bush, Bush is the product of a political economy deeply and structurally related with its military and a militaristic world view- that system works with automatic precision using various legitimations, regardless of the face of the president.

okhla writes <<< Don`t you find it frustrating that most of the ``rest of the world`` refuses to see things your way? >>>

Most of the rest of the world, suffering under US domination, lives as fact the things I talk about, unfortunately they don`t have the luxury to merely ``see``, they live them as social fact day in and day out....

``Free``thinker writes <<< You also ignored my point that I made in my earlier post that conditions in the US have improved considerably compared with those which prevailed a century ago. This is because of the continuity of its system which is not toppled over by the army generals (not because there are no army generals in the US but because the system keeps them in their place). >>>

Another aspect of your near illiteracy is revealed by the fact that even after questions have been answered you keep repeating them, and that there is nothing deep in your analysis except banal points like ``America is better than it was a hundered years ago``. Of course it is ``better`` (for whom is also worthy of consideration) after raping the world and destroying the indigeneous population and looting the wealth of its people and achieveing cultural hegemony, past which dimwits like your goodself cannot look. Look at all the wars this misearble country`s elite have conducted, look at the people and the ecologies they have destroyed and are destroying and look at how they drain the poor countries of resoures and wealth, and then look at the slogans they use which are fictions even at the home front. Look at how they are dominating trade and finance and restricting development while promoting militarism and a militaristic worldview. Come on, are you blind?

Masadi,

Dimwits.

Tahmed, feroz, Freethinker etc are all dimwits.

Don`t you find it frustrating that most of the ``rest of the world`` refuses to see things your way?

After all your posts are based on your ``research`` in your ``institute`` and feedback from your ``students``. Maybe after you get the ``Nobel`` prize, you will be taken more seriously.

Regards to your fellow authors & intellectuals at lulu.com.

Masadi: 146

You are again indulging in general accusations. You evaded to answer my question.

Do you have a system (not theory or an ideology) which is better than the western democracy and is functional (that is, it is working in other parts of the world)?

The western democracy allows changes to its Constitution and if they found better alternatives (not necessarily that you propose) they would incorporate them in the Constitution. You also ignored my point that I made in my earlier post that conditions in the US have improved considerably compared with those which prevailed a century ago. This is because of the continuity of its system which is not toppled over by the army generals (not because there are no army generals in the US but because the system keeps them in their place).

Think over these points; maybe your frustration will be somewhat relieved. I know it is your anti-western posture which doesn’t leave you in peace.

I don’t suggest that the west is free from flaws. President Bush is imperialistic in his foreign policy but thank God he will be gone in 2 years. The danger is that he might not embark on any other misadventure in his remaining time. That is where the Senate and the Congress are going to play their roles to restrain him.

You should consider the system which I believe the Muslim world can use (with some appropriate modifications) for its benefit. We need the system and don’t have to import Bush because we already have the likes of him in our country in the uniforms.

Mohammad Gill