Shandana Minhas January 22, 2007
#25 Posted by arjun2 on January 22, 2007 1:54:05 pm
heh..pakis talk about dignity when even their president`s sartorial decisions are being made in foggy bottom...
Musharraf to doff uniform before polls, says Burns
news desk
WASHINGTON - US Under Secretary of State Nicholas Burns has revealed that President General Pervez Musharraf has given assurance to leave the office of the Chief of the Army Staff before the elections.
He also expressed hope that he (Musharraf) would keep his words and doff the uniform before elections. He said that the United States would continue to play its role for bringing real democracy in Pakistan.
The political and diplomatic circles in Washington are attaching great importance to Nicholas Burns’ statement.
A diplomatic source told The Nation that Nicholas Burns statement would have significant impact on the politics in Pakistan, saying that Musharraf was planning to appoint a reliable and trustworthy general as COAS, and become president for the next five years.
A reliable source, on condition of anonymity, said that Burns’ statement was of extraordinary importance.
The number of Musharraf’s opponents is increasing due to operation in Waziristan. His rivals are of the opinion that no army in the world can attack its own people, and Musharraf has failed in saving his fellow countrymen from American cruelties.
On the other hand, an Indian newspaper has posted a report on its website that presently President Musharraf is under growing US pressure and the troops carrying out operation in Waziristan are also coming under mental stress just as the US troops have come under pressure in Afghanistan and Iraq. The report further revealed that the US media has continuously been advising President George W Bush not to trust General Musharraf any more.
Musharraf to doff uniform before polls, says Burns
news desk
WASHINGTON - US Under Secretary of State Nicholas Burns has revealed that President General Pervez Musharraf has given assurance to leave the office of the Chief of the Army Staff before the elections.
He also expressed hope that he (Musharraf) would keep his words and doff the uniform before elections. He said that the United States would continue to play its role for bringing real democracy in Pakistan.
The political and diplomatic circles in Washington are attaching great importance to Nicholas Burns’ statement.
A diplomatic source told The Nation that Nicholas Burns statement would have significant impact on the politics in Pakistan, saying that Musharraf was planning to appoint a reliable and trustworthy general as COAS, and become president for the next five years.
A reliable source, on condition of anonymity, said that Burns’ statement was of extraordinary importance.
The number of Musharraf’s opponents is increasing due to operation in Waziristan. His rivals are of the opinion that no army in the world can attack its own people, and Musharraf has failed in saving his fellow countrymen from American cruelties.
On the other hand, an Indian newspaper has posted a report on its website that presently President Musharraf is under growing US pressure and the troops carrying out operation in Waziristan are also coming under mental stress just as the US troops have come under pressure in Afghanistan and Iraq. The report further revealed that the US media has continuously been advising President George W Bush not to trust General Musharraf any more.
#24 Posted by arjun2 on January 22, 2007 1:44:14 pm
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#23 Posted by HasanMahmood on January 22, 2007 1:42:14 pm
# 17
``taliban is NOT independent... taliban is fully dependent on paki army...
all the more reason that hindu holocaust in afghnistan is just a matter of time.``
Urstruly,
you are being naive in saying that Talibanis are not fully supported still by the elements in Pakistani army. You think that ISI is naive or just plain stupid? If you really think that they cannot control the growing madarssah population or Talibani culture or these fantics you are highly mistaken. They are just letting it grow to keep Goras scared....
``taliban is NOT independent... taliban is fully dependent on paki army...
all the more reason that hindu holocaust in afghnistan is just a matter of time.``
Urstruly,
you are being naive in saying that Talibanis are not fully supported still by the elements in Pakistani army. You think that ISI is naive or just plain stupid? If you really think that they cannot control the growing madarssah population or Talibani culture or these fantics you are highly mistaken. They are just letting it grow to keep Goras scared....
#22 Posted by HasanMahmood on January 22, 2007 1:36:26 pm
Shandana, first of all your article held some interest untill you started shouting about the inhumane treatment of Mengal. Jaanwars like Mengal should not only be kept in Iron cages but they should be treated like dogs. They should be beaten and tortured everyday. You speak about his child waiting to meet him. Ask the millions of children who are now orphans because of him. Dont speak about jaanwars like Mengal, Bugti, Benazir, and Nawaz before you talk about the people whose lives were destroyed by these morons.
Secondly, I am really pained by the fact that being a Pakistani I am actually agreeing with most of the posts by Indians here. Pakistanis are hugely mistaken if they think that they can live with this Talibani element (I am not going to use the word Jihadi - as the word is exploited by everyone without understanding the true meaning behind it). The idea of divide and conquer is no longer feasible. Talibans have done nothing but destroy Afghanistan and Pakistan. It is time for the Pakistani Army to stop this charade and should take their hands off their illegitimate child. Pretty soon, Pakistan will stand alone on the issue of Talibani support. I do believe that Karzai is nothing but an idiot puppet who has no powers and is shouting ``Pakistan - Pakistan`` without any proof and I do believe that he has Indian support for it, but I also believe that there is some truth to the matter that Pakistan is indirectly supporting these elements to keep the chaos on the border and extract as much money for their forces as possible from the goras. The same Pakistani army is also supporting these mullahs who on one hand sit in the opposition and thump desks but on the other hand fully support ISI behind the scenes. Pakistan is playing a very dangerous game. The 5 steps Pakistan should take are:
1. Stop the Mullahs from taking over our country
2. Stop the talibanization of our borders on the West side
3. Have a comprehensive plan for Kashmir
4. Stop the atrocities commited by the leaders of Baluchistan (which they are somewhat doing) and either put them in jail or throw them out of the country, and finally
5. Musharaf should step down after creating a comprehensive strategy for army to never be involved in politics and never allow politicians like Benazir, Nawaz, and Asif Zardari to enter the country.
But I guess this is what we call ``wishful thinking``.
Secondly, I am really pained by the fact that being a Pakistani I am actually agreeing with most of the posts by Indians here. Pakistanis are hugely mistaken if they think that they can live with this Talibani element (I am not going to use the word Jihadi - as the word is exploited by everyone without understanding the true meaning behind it). The idea of divide and conquer is no longer feasible. Talibans have done nothing but destroy Afghanistan and Pakistan. It is time for the Pakistani Army to stop this charade and should take their hands off their illegitimate child. Pretty soon, Pakistan will stand alone on the issue of Talibani support. I do believe that Karzai is nothing but an idiot puppet who has no powers and is shouting ``Pakistan - Pakistan`` without any proof and I do believe that he has Indian support for it, but I also believe that there is some truth to the matter that Pakistan is indirectly supporting these elements to keep the chaos on the border and extract as much money for their forces as possible from the goras. The same Pakistani army is also supporting these mullahs who on one hand sit in the opposition and thump desks but on the other hand fully support ISI behind the scenes. Pakistan is playing a very dangerous game. The 5 steps Pakistan should take are:
1. Stop the Mullahs from taking over our country
2. Stop the talibanization of our borders on the West side
3. Have a comprehensive plan for Kashmir
4. Stop the atrocities commited by the leaders of Baluchistan (which they are somewhat doing) and either put them in jail or throw them out of the country, and finally
5. Musharaf should step down after creating a comprehensive strategy for army to never be involved in politics and never allow politicians like Benazir, Nawaz, and Asif Zardari to enter the country.
But I guess this is what we call ``wishful thinking``.
#21 Posted by mohar11 on January 22, 2007 1:36:20 pm
Re: # 20
A little ``brotherly`` killings is pretty much routine among muslims, ain`t it?... taliban gets too hot to handle, colonialists squeeze army balls, army whacks a few of the taliban... and then the taliban whacks a few of the army... then its back to buddy-buddy...
which is why you are angry at the army... because army is playing this double game, instead of backing taliban all the way...
A little ``brotherly`` killings is pretty much routine among muslims, ain`t it?... taliban gets too hot to handle, colonialists squeeze army balls, army whacks a few of the taliban... and then the taliban whacks a few of the army... then its back to buddy-buddy...
which is why you are angry at the army... because army is playing this double game, instead of backing taliban all the way...
#20 Posted by Urstruly on January 22, 2007 1:17:49 pm
Re: # 19
No, I think the news is not true. Jihadis and pak army are allies, the dumber one just said that in his last post.
No, I think the news is not true. Jihadis and pak army are allies, the dumber one just said that in his last post.
#19 Posted by arjun2 on January 22, 2007 1:13:56 pm
#17 by Urstruly on January 22, 2007 12:54pm PT
Your jihadi buddies whacked 3 paki army soldiers today..and NATO whacked another one..maybe you should worry about that more...?
Your jihadi buddies whacked 3 paki army soldiers today..and NATO whacked another one..maybe you should worry about that more...?
#17 Posted by Urstruly on January 22, 2007 12:54:51 pm
Re: # 14
``taliban is NOT independent... taliban is fully dependent on paki army...``
all the more reason that hindu holocaust in afghnistan is just a matter of time.
``taliban is NOT independent... taliban is fully dependent on paki army...``
all the more reason that hindu holocaust in afghnistan is just a matter of time.
#16 Posted by bjkumar on January 22, 2007 12:51:54 pm
#7 Mohar
[I can eat you entirely, alive]
Sure, you can eat him alive.
But can you digest him?!
Can he pass through your system?!
Or will he merely blow up - taking you with him. The track record is VERY one-sided.
#14 Posted by mohar11 on January 22, 2007 12:39:33 pm
Re: # 11
we always worry about our a$$es first and everything else after that... don`t you worry about that... :)
taliban is NOT independent... taliban is fully dependent on paki army...
we always worry about our a$$es first and everything else after that... don`t you worry about that... :)
taliban is NOT independent... taliban is fully dependent on paki army...
#13 Posted by arjun2 on January 22, 2007 12:38:13 pm
#11 by Urstruly on January 22, 2007 12:21pm PT
`Friendly fire` death in Pakistan
`Friendly fire` death in Pakistan
Pakistan has tens of thousands of troops in the border area
Pakistan says US-led coalition forces in Afghanistan have mistakenly(umm...sure..) killed one of its soldiers at a border post.
Two other soldiers were wounded when coalition forces opened fire in the Shawal area of North Waziristan region, a Pakistan military statement said.
It said a ``strong protest`` had been lodged with the coalition, which said it was investigating the incident.
Earlier, at least three Pakistani security personnel were killed in a roadside bombing in North Waziristan.
`Inside Afghanistan`
The BBC`s Haroon Rashid in Peshawar says coalition forces have in the past violated Pakistani air space, but this would be the first time Pakistani troops have been killed.
#12 Posted by Kulharee on January 22, 2007 12:24:10 pm
Re: # 10
Last year, in Pakistan, over 600 people were killed in terrorist attacks (not including Armed forces or terrorists). The 200 figure above in for those killed in sectarian violence.
Last year, in Pakistan, over 600 people were killed in terrorist attacks (not including Armed forces or terrorists). The 200 figure above in for those killed in sectarian violence.
#11 Posted by Urstruly on January 22, 2007 12:21:25 pm
Re: # 9
I am pretty sure you know that the minute colonialists will send a signal for their departure, what will happen to Indians in Afghanistan, right? So I would suggest you worry about your asses first. As far as Taliban are concerned, they have become an independent phenomenon. As a matter of fact Taliban ARE the Afghanistan now, whether we like it or not.
I am pretty sure you know that the minute colonialists will send a signal for their departure, what will happen to Indians in Afghanistan, right? So I would suggest you worry about your asses first. As far as Taliban are concerned, they have become an independent phenomenon. As a matter of fact Taliban ARE the Afghanistan now, whether we like it or not.
#10 Posted by Kulharee on January 22, 2007 12:17:46 pm
Shandana has taken Princess Diana’s cause celeb. Kashmir is land-mined, what’s such a big harm in land-mining the western border too? In 2006 there were around 200 Kashmiri casualties due to landmines, which is the same as 200 people killed in Shia Sunni violence in Karachi last year. I say, landmine Karachi too. Once people realize a place is land-mined, it stops a lot mischief. Given the current environment of resurgence in Taliban cross border activity, land-mining the border areas is the best thing that can happen to protect lives on both sides of the border.
Once the conflicts are over, landmines can be removed, as they are always mapped by those who place them.
Once the conflicts are over, landmines can be removed, as they are always mapped by those who place them.
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