M B Qasmi January 25, 2007
#59 Posted by sadna on February 1, 2007 12:44:22 pm
#55
I thought people actually say `Amdavad` and in contrast `Karnavati` would be an unwieldly mouthful.
I thought people actually say `Amdavad` and in contrast `Karnavati` would be an unwieldly mouthful.
#57 Posted by jang on January 31, 2007 10:47:25 am
muslims upon conversion insist on giving an arabic name. so why the rant?
#56 Posted by nasah on January 31, 2007 8:07:19 am
The only place I imagine the Modi gang is desperate to rename is Ahmedabad- we can`t have a nice Hindu city named after these friggin Mohammedans understand?
and why not -- the friggin Hindus should name that `nice Hindu city` -- Modi Kebab House.....:)
and why not -- the friggin Hindus should name that `nice Hindu city` -- Modi Kebab House.....:)
#55 Posted by burpinder on January 31, 2007 1:11:15 am
it`s not surprising that the author, being a member of Darool whatsisname and editor of the impressive sounding Green Crescent magazine, would try and obfuscate the issue of renaming by dragging in the good ole BJP, secular India`s universal scapegoat.
Just FYI, when Bombay changed to Mumbai, the Congress was in power both at state and centre. When Bangalore, where sanity had prevailed oh so long, succumbed and became Bengaluru (or Bengalooru, it isn`t yet clear which) it was the good old Janata Dal (Secular) in power; though Congress CM Dharam Singh, who`d just been rudely shunted out by the Gowda clan, had no qualms about doing it himself (if only he`d stayed in power). Tamilnadu has never had a BJP government, nor has West Bengal, so blaming the charming-sounding Chennai and the monstrous Kolkatta on the Beej is to give them too much credit.
The only place I imagine the Modi gang is desperate to rename is Ahmedabad- we can`t have a nice Hindu city named after these friggin Mohammedans understand?- but so far everyone who`s heard their alternative- Karnawati- goes green (no pun intended) so that`s out for now. Delhi more properly should be Dehli, but that`s so similar that no political party worth its salt would ever back such a foolhardy move.
On a serious note, it`s a myth that name changes are perpetrated in the name of religion alone, as the author would have us believe. It`s a common ploy of politicians across the party spectrum to prove their son-of-the-soil credentials. It bodes badly for India, which as it develops, is becoming increasingly cosmopolitan and tolerant on one hand, and parochial & narrow-minded on the other. name changes are foolish, they`re a waste of everybody`s time and money and for the most part, ineffective since nobody bothers using the new name anyway.
Just FYI, when Bombay changed to Mumbai, the Congress was in power both at state and centre. When Bangalore, where sanity had prevailed oh so long, succumbed and became Bengaluru (or Bengalooru, it isn`t yet clear which) it was the good old Janata Dal (Secular) in power; though Congress CM Dharam Singh, who`d just been rudely shunted out by the Gowda clan, had no qualms about doing it himself (if only he`d stayed in power). Tamilnadu has never had a BJP government, nor has West Bengal, so blaming the charming-sounding Chennai and the monstrous Kolkatta on the Beej is to give them too much credit.
The only place I imagine the Modi gang is desperate to rename is Ahmedabad- we can`t have a nice Hindu city named after these friggin Mohammedans understand?- but so far everyone who`s heard their alternative- Karnawati- goes green (no pun intended) so that`s out for now. Delhi more properly should be Dehli, but that`s so similar that no political party worth its salt would ever back such a foolhardy move.
On a serious note, it`s a myth that name changes are perpetrated in the name of religion alone, as the author would have us believe. It`s a common ploy of politicians across the party spectrum to prove their son-of-the-soil credentials. It bodes badly for India, which as it develops, is becoming increasingly cosmopolitan and tolerant on one hand, and parochial & narrow-minded on the other. name changes are foolish, they`re a waste of everybody`s time and money and for the most part, ineffective since nobody bothers using the new name anyway.
#54 Posted by nasah on January 30, 2007 9:37:11 pm
I was wrong about NWFP -- three names are being proposed for the tongue twister -- none of them pretty: Pakhtoonkhwa/Pakhtoonistan/Afghania....Afghania?
How about the name that we all knew since old days `Sarhad` of Zia Sarhadi -- not Zia Pakhtoonistani -- Zia Pakhtoonkwhaee -- or Zia Afghaniaee....
How about the name that we all knew since old days `Sarhad` of Zia Sarhadi -- not Zia Pakhtoonistani -- Zia Pakhtoonkwhaee -- or Zia Afghaniaee....
#53 Posted by jang on January 30, 2007 12:50:02 pm
#52 point is that was a colonial construct which was abolished.
#51 Posted by dost_mittar on January 30, 2007 6:36:43 am
#50
Are you sure? Were Meghalaya and Mizoram also not part of NEFA?
Are you sure? Were Meghalaya and Mizoram also not part of NEFA?
#52 Posted by kalihawa on January 30, 2007 8:23:45 am
Re: # 51
possibly, not sure. It was long time back. There used to be only one state now there are seven.
possibly, not sure. It was long time back. There used to be only one state now there are seven.
#49 Posted by nasah on January 29, 2007 10:39:45 am
If therfe is one name between India and Pakistan -- that defintely needs chaning is NWFP -- what the heck is that archiac colonial jumble of consonants doing in this day and age.
The Pakistanis are such colonialophiles -- they won`t part with that goddam tongue twister even a century after independence......:)
The Pakistanis are such colonialophiles -- they won`t part with that goddam tongue twister even a century after independence......:)
#50 Posted by kalihawa on January 29, 2007 11:29:46 pm
Re: # 49
India too had NEFA( North East Frontier Area) which is now Arunachal Pradesh, though China refuses to acknowledge it as part of India.
India too had NEFA( North East Frontier Area) which is now Arunachal Pradesh, though China refuses to acknowledge it as part of India.
#48 Posted by KaalChakra on January 29, 2007 9:57:34 am
re: Zeemax # 45
Just got the joke (what a tubelight!). Luckily, most kannadigas will miss it entirely :)
Just got the joke (what a tubelight!). Luckily, most kannadigas will miss it entirely :)
#47 Posted by jang on January 28, 2007 1:58:44 pm
#33 bagalore was part of adilshahi (bijapur) in medieval times. it was jagir of raja shahaji (sivajis dad).
#45 Posted by zeemax on January 28, 2007 2:30:31 am
But my favourite name change is `Bhangi-lauroo`.
#36 Posted by dost_mittar on January 27, 2007 5:27:04 pm
jang#30:
``all this from those who have rejected everything of their heritage.``
Not true! All heritage is accepted - African homo-erectus, harrappan, Greek, Buddhist, Turkish, Arabic, Persian, British. Just don`t use the `H` word. :)
``all this from those who have rejected everything of their heritage.``
Not true! All heritage is accepted - African homo-erectus, harrappan, Greek, Buddhist, Turkish, Arabic, Persian, British. Just don`t use the `H` word. :)
#31 Posted by tahmed32 on January 27, 2007 12:40:57 pm
#30 no bs, please. this is the front page. :-)
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