Muharram 10: ’Ashura: Commemorating Imam Hussain- The Prince of Martyrs

Re: # 35

I understand your concern, but if you look around, currently a genocide is happening in Iraq as we speak. The two fighting factions who are perpetrating this vile act divide themselves on the basis of shia and sunni divide. It is a fact that an overwhelming majority of sunnis considers Imam Hussain to be the righteous one, and the one who was wronged. They also consider Ali (RA) to be the fourth righteous caliph - you might have noticed that in the interacts below and the article itself. But on the other hand shias have standardized the practice of cursing all companions of Holy Prophet (pbuh) as one of their religious duties. The practice is called ``Tabra`a`` and it irks the hell out of every fair minded Muslims including some shias. It is just another matter what is the true status of companions and how Qura`n and Hadith attributes a special status to the companions who made great sacrifices in the cause of Islam. But what really worries me :) is the act of Tabra`a` which is nothing but cultivating a cult mindset. I mean for heavens sake, these people died 15 centuries ago then what is the point in so much hatered and its continued cultivation. Why not work towards filling the divide rather than working on widening it further.

I once attended a khutba by Haq Nawaz Jhangvi in a mosque in Karachi; it is the same a-hole who started the anti-shia violence in pakistan right after the Iranian Revolution. It is one thing that he was a firebrand but the core theme of his lecture revolved around the practice of Tabra`a. That was the only part of his argument that had some `meat` in it; other than that it was all hot air.

Yes Tabara`a is abhorent and it turns my stomach but Jhangavi`s speech had an opposite effect on me and the group of my friends. (In those days we were into lectures and debates and used to make extra effort to find accomplished speakers from any group and would try to attend their lectures, just to learn the techniques). We were so irked that wherever we would find any wall chalking by Janghvi`s group, Anajmun-e-Sipah-e- Sahaba, we would make a cartoon of a donkey beside it, since they abbreviated the name of their organization as A.S.S., which they actually were. Later when too many donkeys started appearing on the walls they changed the name of their organization to A.S.S.P (P for Pakistan).

Re: # 37

Urstruly, wouldn’t it be better if you shut up with your ignorant and insignificant self instead of worrying about what other people believe or do? What is it to you (personally) if someone curses the dead morons? Do you really believe that someone made you incharge of how people should react to historical dramas? Does anyone really give a shyt about who died and who didn’t? How come it is only Desis (mostly of Deobandi persuasion) who have made this the reason d’etre to find something to mourn about. It would be much better for jokers like you to get a job instead of worrying about Shias and Sunnis. People like Dr. Israr Ahmad and Moudoodi are the certified scum of the earth, worthy of being paraded in nude on the Mall road and exported to Mecca and be replaced with concrete pillars that Hajis throw stones at.

Re: # 38

Since you are a Quadiani, I don`t see any reason why you should be poking your nose into this matter. But if you are practicing your quadiani oratory skills, as it is evident from your language, then go right ahead. This is something and only thing you people excel at.

Re: # 39

Yeah, and your idea of excelling is killing one another. You guys couldn’t take a day’s break even the day after the death of the Prophet. You have since been doing that, and will continue doing it. When you can’t stand to truth, the only thing you resort to is saying oh he is a Qadiyani. To you may be it is an insult, but to us it is a matter of pride to belong to the faith of the Last Prophet of Islam Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan Shareef, whose status is only second and equal to Allah.

Excellent article...

``There cannot be a better and more illustrious example than that of Husein who was the greatest embodiment of courage, conviction and sacrifice and every Mussalman in particular should take the great example of his life and service and follow it.``

M.A.Jinnah on the 1300th commemoration of Muharram.

Naqsh miaN -- no need to go whirling overboard..... Time for quiet reflection about our regression in Iraq!

Urstruly,

… what Naqsh is saying is that … either you belong to the Ahle-Sunnah Ala Hazrat Imam Malik Wallahu Barelvi Sufian-e-karam W`ahle-ba`it jamaat-e-pir-o-murshad traditional Hanafi group …

……….… or you are a kaffir.


Naqsh,

… Urstruly’s response is … ’fcuk you, too …’


I hope this is now clear …

Re: # 30

`` Urstruly’s response is … ’fcuk you, too …’ ``

This mode of conversation is the typical tradition of Mirza and his progeny. We discuss issues with ettiquettes and mutual respect. Yes, tempers flare, but no one calls the other ``Kanjriyon ke bachchay` as your Mirza did.

Thanks for chiming in, but I see no place for you in this dialogue.

Re: # 33

well said urstruly. in qaadiyaanio ka islaam se taaluq hii nahin so ignore them.

What started as a tribute to Imam Hussain has turned into a spitting match between two brothers in faith …

… no wonder ummah is going to the dogs …

Here the kalam of Pir Sahib (marsiya) recited by Sayyid Fasihuddin here:

You can listen to it recited by Sayyid Fasihuddin sahib at
http://www.naatsharif.com by typing in ``mehndi`` in the search box.

A marsiya in Punjabi by Huzoor Pir Sayyid Mihr Ali Shah Chishti Sahib of Golra Sharif

The translation (from the official website):




- The messenger has brought the henna prepared from the blood of death

- This henna belongs to Lady Fatimah (Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anha)
daughter of the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wa Sallam) and mother
of Imam Hussain (Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anhu) ;

- That is why it is unlike any other type of henna

It is made of the sacred blood of Imam Hussain (Radhi Allahu
Ta`ala `Anhu) the Martyr.

- Hussain the unique pearl of the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wa
Sallam) and Hazrat Ali (Karram Allah Wajhah) ; The treasure of Lady
Fatimah (Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anha)

- Who wearing the bracelet of his Holy Grandfather (Sallallahu alayhi
wa Sallam) , set out towards the site of his martydom

- The Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wa Sallam) , Hazrat Ali (Karram
Allah Wajhah) and Lady Fatimah (Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anha) all called
out :

`` O Son Hussain (Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anhu) ! Come apace to join us
in paradise`` We yearn for thee moment by moment

- O Prince Hussain (Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anhu) ! The leaf of thy
henna shrub is green.

The men of Kufa have joined hands to pounce upon thee

- O Prince Hussain (Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anhu) ! The leaf of thy
henna shrub is yellow

In the desperate situation that befell thee, thou consigned thy kith
and kin to the care and protection of thy Lord Allah ! Alas ! The
calamity of Karbala overtook thee.

- O Prince Hussain (Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anhu) The colour of thy
henna is enchanting ;

The whole world mourns thee

- The entire creation wrings its hands in regret over thy unjust and
violent death

- O Prince Hussain (Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anhu) The colour of thy
henna is red

The muslim ummah looks up to thee as a model and feels the pain of
grief of the events of Karbala

- This henna comes from the beautiful garden of the Holy Prophet`s
(Sallallahu alayhi wa Sallam) household.

It belongs to the purified members of that household, that is why it
is like any other type of henna.

- On the one hand , the innocent , thirsty children yearned for
water, and were also subjected to a volley of arrows by the enemy.

- And on the other hand Imam Hussain (Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anhu)
himself was attacked on all sides with the sword.

- The great Lord had willed it thus, and had predestined to grant
thee ( Imam Hussain Radhi Allahu Ta`ala `Anhu )the rank of a martyr

- Otherwise he had all power to come to thy help in any manner he
wished.

- O Mehr Ali Shah ! The world is transient . Only the Great Lord
shall live on for ever.