Noman Faisal January 29, 2007
#97 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2007 4:03:04 am
The more I think about it, the more I realise that Indians lack that simple thing called the milk of human kindness or decency.
They boast about wealth, material success etc etc (despite being poverty stricken a-holes) but if someone shows them their place (after patiently bearing them for more than 8 years), they are suddenly the epitome of all evil.
#96 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2007 3:57:15 am
Re: # 93
There is a difference between claiming something and praising someone for his wealth.
If you can produce a single post from me praising Nawaz Sharif`s wealth or anyone else`s wealth (except my father`s which was brought up only in the context of ``Qadiani dog`` issue) for that matter, I will back down from that assertion.
As for ``stock``... I would also like to see you produce examples of Microsoft shareholders taking as much pride in Bill Gates` wealth as you fellows do in Azim Premji.... I think ... it is the case of havenots. I do not envy Nawaz Sharif because I pretty much have the things I need or want in Pakistan despite being the son of an Ahmadi... you envy Premji and praise him day in day out because an average Indian has no chance of ever getting what Premji has or can have.
There is a difference between claiming something and praising someone for his wealth.
If you can produce a single post from me praising Nawaz Sharif`s wealth or anyone else`s wealth (except my father`s which was brought up only in the context of ``Qadiani dog`` issue) for that matter, I will back down from that assertion.
As for ``stock``... I would also like to see you produce examples of Microsoft shareholders taking as much pride in Bill Gates` wealth as you fellows do in Azim Premji.... I think ... it is the case of havenots. I do not envy Nawaz Sharif because I pretty much have the things I need or want in Pakistan despite being the son of an Ahmadi... you envy Premji and praise him day in day out because an average Indian has no chance of ever getting what Premji has or can have.
#95 Posted by harish_hyd on January 31, 2007 3:53:49 am
#94 by Yasser
... see that Pakistan is actually a much more sophisticated and better place than India for investment...
Sure...never mind the fact that the country had to BEG India for Internet connectivity, when its lines suddenly went down.
... see that Pakistan is actually a much more sophisticated and better place than India for investment...
Sure...never mind the fact that the country had to BEG India for Internet connectivity, when its lines suddenly went down.
#94 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2007 3:51:24 am
Re: # 90
noman mian,
This is the wrong forum for this article. I was happy to leave alone your article... but unfortunately I have been dragged in. So now the fireworks must begin.
If I must comment on this... I think the biggest issue is the propaganda machine used against you .... world over, investors get a heart attack when they hear ``Pakistan``. Much of this is our own fault ofcourse but then again reality is no where near close to the picture that is given to the foreign investors... infact, those few who can look beyond the Indian propaganda ... see that Pakistan is actually a much more sophisticated and better place than India for investment... but getting them here is a big issue.
A friend of mine, who works for TRG in business development, told me that they have an office in Phillipines which they use to hook up investors, which they later bring to Pakistan. I think it is a sad state of affairs... but largely because of ignorance rampant.
However the good news is that the world is becoming a smaller place every day and people will not remain oblivious for ever. In the meantime we Pakistanis have to make a real effort putting our own house in order.
noman mian,
This is the wrong forum for this article. I was happy to leave alone your article... but unfortunately I have been dragged in. So now the fireworks must begin.
If I must comment on this... I think the biggest issue is the propaganda machine used against you .... world over, investors get a heart attack when they hear ``Pakistan``. Much of this is our own fault ofcourse but then again reality is no where near close to the picture that is given to the foreign investors... infact, those few who can look beyond the Indian propaganda ... see that Pakistan is actually a much more sophisticated and better place than India for investment... but getting them here is a big issue.
A friend of mine, who works for TRG in business development, told me that they have an office in Phillipines which they use to hook up investors, which they later bring to Pakistan. I think it is a sad state of affairs... but largely because of ignorance rampant.
However the good news is that the world is becoming a smaller place every day and people will not remain oblivious for ever. In the meantime we Pakistanis have to make a real effort putting our own house in order.
#93 Posted by harish_hyd on January 31, 2007 3:51:21 am
#87 by Yasser
... but what part of Azim Premji`s wealth will you or Arjunm or Burpinder ever inherit?
For someone who once claimed to be a part-time economist, you seem to be a dullard. Have you ever heard of the concept of stocks?
This is assuming that Premji the great is not super human and has not secretly fathered all of you... if that assumption is wrong, than you may go ahead and be proud of his wealth as it is your own father`s...
This coming from someone who once claimed that Nawaz Sharif`s Ittefaq foundries would have overtaken Tata Steel had NS not diverted his attention towards politics. Are we to then assume that NS fathered you? And in return for his services, your father was perhaps rewarded with a Mercedes dealership? Of course, all this is assumption, but if it is not, then go ahead and celebrate it any which way you like.
... but what part of Azim Premji`s wealth will you or Arjunm or Burpinder ever inherit?
For someone who once claimed to be a part-time economist, you seem to be a dullard. Have you ever heard of the concept of stocks?
This is assuming that Premji the great is not super human and has not secretly fathered all of you... if that assumption is wrong, than you may go ahead and be proud of his wealth as it is your own father`s...
This coming from someone who once claimed that Nawaz Sharif`s Ittefaq foundries would have overtaken Tata Steel had NS not diverted his attention towards politics. Are we to then assume that NS fathered you? And in return for his services, your father was perhaps rewarded with a Mercedes dealership? Of course, all this is assumption, but if it is not, then go ahead and celebrate it any which way you like.
#92 Posted by devkant on January 31, 2007 3:49:47 am
#90 by nomanfaisal on January 31, 2007 3:44am PT
sorry dude....all this was actually meant for UP.
rgds,
devkant.
sorry dude....all this was actually meant for UP.
rgds,
devkant.
#91 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2007 3:45:04 am
so you own wipro stock now?
So I wonder how many Microsoft shareholders go around boasting about Bill Gates` wealth like Bill fathered them?
#90 Posted by NomanFaisal on January 31, 2007 3:44:38 am
Dear Interactors,
I will request you to please focus your interactions on the topic. We can discuss other political/Social and spirtual issues on UP or other forum.
Kind regards
Noman
I will request you to please focus your interactions on the topic. We can discuss other political/Social and spirtual issues on UP or other forum.
Kind regards
Noman
#89 Posted by devkant on January 31, 2007 3:40:26 am
``#87 by Mantolives on January 31, 2007 3:18am PT
what part of Azim Premji`s wealth will you or Arjunm or Burpinder ever inherit? ``
err...have u ever heard of stocks and shares?????
rgds,
devkant.
what part of Azim Premji`s wealth will you or Arjunm or Burpinder ever inherit? ``
err...have u ever heard of stocks and shares?????
rgds,
devkant.
#88 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2007 3:22:40 am
Ah Indians aur their ``rubbin` it in``...
Late Dr. Abdul Salam... another ``Qadiani dog`` in Indian eyes.... is a world famous Pakistani ``minority`` who despite very real discrimination remained wholeheartedly Pakistani to the end.... and has donated his entire wealth to the cause of science in his country...
Meanwhile your world famous Indian minority does not spit on you.
Late Dr. Abdul Salam... another ``Qadiani dog`` in Indian eyes.... is a world famous Pakistani ``minority`` who despite very real discrimination remained wholeheartedly Pakistani to the end.... and has donated his entire wealth to the cause of science in his country...
Meanwhile your world famous Indian minority does not spit on you.
#87 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2007 3:18:49 am
Re: # 84
Dear Harish mian,
The point is - to spell out to you who needs everything spelt out- that while I might legitimately proud of my father`s success- however little that maybe- (and that too only because he was called a ``Qadiani dog`` by one of your ``secular`` Indian brothers here- otherwise I have no interest in boasting about success that has not come directly to me) ... but what part of Azim Premji`s wealth will you or Arjunm or Burpinder ever inherit?
Looks to me that there are more claimants to Azim Premji`s wealth than every single rupee in his treasury... I mean Bill Gates is an American isn`t he? How many Americans go on boasting about his success...
(This is assuming that Premji the great is not super human and has not secretly fathered all of you... if that assumption is wrong, than you may go ahead and be proud of his wealth as it is your own father`s...)
Dear Harish mian,
The point is - to spell out to you who needs everything spelt out- that while I might legitimately proud of my father`s success- however little that maybe- (and that too only because he was called a ``Qadiani dog`` by one of your ``secular`` Indian brothers here- otherwise I have no interest in boasting about success that has not come directly to me) ... but what part of Azim Premji`s wealth will you or Arjunm or Burpinder ever inherit?
Looks to me that there are more claimants to Azim Premji`s wealth than every single rupee in his treasury... I mean Bill Gates is an American isn`t he? How many Americans go on boasting about his success...
(This is assuming that Premji the great is not super human and has not secretly fathered all of you... if that assumption is wrong, than you may go ahead and be proud of his wealth as it is your own father`s...)
#86 Posted by harish_hyd on January 31, 2007 3:14:46 am
#85 by majumdar
Now of course he is one of the richest in the world. A world famous minority Indian who has chosen voluntarily to live in a fascist hell-hole called India.
ROTFL!!! Majumdar Bhai, did you have to rub it in like this?
Now of course he is one of the richest in the world. A world famous minority Indian who has chosen voluntarily to live in a fascist hell-hole called India.
ROTFL!!! Majumdar Bhai, did you have to rub it in like this?
#85 Posted by majumdar on January 31, 2007 3:13:18 am
Manto mian,
(affording a Honda City lease on 30k/m salary in 2002 was not that big a deal even for a school teacher.)
It is extremely creditable if most Pakistani school teachers could afford a Honda City in 2002. I am not sure many Indian school teachers would have afforded a Honda City in 2002. And certainly not too many Indians even today with a salary of 30K pm would afford a Honda City unless they had a lot of family/unaccounted income to back them up.
(Premji`s father was one of the richest men in India even in 1920s)
Now of course he is one of the richest in the world. A world famous minority Indian who has chosen voluntarily to live in a fascist hell-hole called India.
Regards
(affording a Honda City lease on 30k/m salary in 2002 was not that big a deal even for a school teacher.)
It is extremely creditable if most Pakistani school teachers could afford a Honda City in 2002. I am not sure many Indian school teachers would have afforded a Honda City in 2002. And certainly not too many Indians even today with a salary of 30K pm would afford a Honda City unless they had a lot of family/unaccounted income to back them up.
(Premji`s father was one of the richest men in India even in 1920s)
Now of course he is one of the richest in the world. A world famous minority Indian who has chosen voluntarily to live in a fascist hell-hole called India.
Regards
#84 Posted by harish_hyd on January 31, 2007 3:12:39 am
#82 by Yasser
Poor Harish mian speaks of Premji and his greatness (Premji`s father was one of the richest men in India even in 1920s) but Harish mian cannot even afford a decent 24 hour internet connection...
Hey Yasser, what does having a 24-hr internet connection have to do with speaking in praise of Azim Premji? You well and truly have gone nuts!! Is that how they teach logic in the Madarssahs you were educated in?
Poor Harish mian speaks of Premji and his greatness (Premji`s father was one of the richest men in India even in 1920s) but Harish mian cannot even afford a decent 24 hour internet connection...
Hey Yasser, what does having a 24-hr internet connection have to do with speaking in praise of Azim Premji? You well and truly have gone nuts!! Is that how they teach logic in the Madarssahs you were educated in?
#83 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2007 3:04:30 am
ps: I am 26 till June this year... so by your own estimates I- a Pakistani- am better off than most of the poverty stricken Injun freaks here. So get a life.
#82 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2007 3:01:09 am
The story of a Qadiani dog who bit the Injuns here
Devkant bhai,
What is this? Crying out for help after getting your poverty stricken rearend whooped over and over again. All I see is... Springbreak in Benaras half naked Hindu freaks gone wild as usual with lies and accusations.
So Indians can boast about their jobs, their money (usually of someone else like Premji or this or that) but if I give them a dose of reality... I am materialistic and ``insecure``. I am just telling it how it is I am afraid. The fact that I said that my father drives a better car than Azim Premji does not mean that Azim Premji can`t afford a better car- infact that was exactly my point. It was a matter of fact statement about the ``Qadiani dog`` - as the Indians called him a few months ago. It was a statement made in response to the claim that Ahmadis like my father are heading to a deadend in the country they helped create. But ofcourse I am doing better than most 26 year old Indians and that too is a statement of fact I am afraid...
The problem with Burpinder is that when confronted with reality he/she has lost all balance. All what I have said is true... affording a Honda City lease on 30k/m salary in 2002 was not that big a deal even for a school teacher. I know it is hard for Indians to imagine this ... given that some of their highest paid executives drive a Maruti.... and boast about it day in day out... Poor Harish mian speaks of Premji and his greatness (Premji`s father was one of the richest men in India even in 1920s) but Harish mian cannot even afford a decent 24 hour internet connection...
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