Q Isa Daudpota and Arshad H Abbasi February 16, 2007
#20 Posted by Urstruly on February 18, 2007 1:47:09 pm
it will eventually come to that - you know it and i know it. at least i have no doubt in my mind. this inevitibility is written on the wall.
#19 Posted by Urstruly on February 18, 2007 1:45:27 pm
Re: # 18
Yes, I have absolutely no qualms about annihilating an entire army who is occupying an internatinally disputed territory. The better alternative has always been on the table - i.e. resolve the problems of occupation through democratical means. Hold the plebicite and let the people of land decide. So either that or get wiped off.
Yes, I have absolutely no qualms about annihilating an entire army who is occupying an internatinally disputed territory. The better alternative has always been on the table - i.e. resolve the problems of occupation through democratical means. Hold the plebicite and let the people of land decide. So either that or get wiped off.
#18 Posted by Ranjit on February 18, 2007 1:31:04 pm
Re:urstruly#15
[..But despite all that, I don`t think once the strike has been successful, Pak Army needs to hold positions there. I think a no-man land status is good enough for us, after planting a Pakistani flag on the peak.....]
Let me get this straight. You would start a war, kill a whole bunch of people with chemical/biological weapons, plant a flag and just leave Siachen after all that?
Sorry to compare you with sikhs, this is more in line with George W. Bush`s strategery in Iraq!!
[..But despite all that, I don`t think once the strike has been successful, Pak Army needs to hold positions there. I think a no-man land status is good enough for us, after planting a Pakistani flag on the peak.....]
Let me get this straight. You would start a war, kill a whole bunch of people with chemical/biological weapons, plant a flag and just leave Siachen after all that?
Sorry to compare you with sikhs, this is more in line with George W. Bush`s strategery in Iraq!!
#17 Posted by arjun2 on February 18, 2007 1:27:17 pm
#12 by Urstruly on February 18, 2007 12:33pm PT
so why aren`t you in possession of Kargil? or Srinagar for that matter...
so why aren`t you in possession of Kargil? or Srinagar for that matter...
#16 Posted by Ajit on February 18, 2007 1:19:04 pm
No-doubt, Siachen glacier has been melting alarmingly more due to military activity of India and Pakistan than global warming but the question is credibility of Pakistani leadership. In 1999 when almost the demilitarization from Siachen was almost finalized Mr. Musharraf became de facto Head of Government and sabotaged whole agreement. So who is responsible for melting of Siachen glacier?
First Pakistani have to develop their ability/integrity to save their parliament and democracy then demand for Siachen Glacier.
First Pakistani have to develop their ability/integrity to save their parliament and democracy then demand for Siachen Glacier.
#15 Posted by Urstruly on February 18, 2007 1:01:13 pm
Re: # 14
Pakistan Army will retreat before the strike. Why on earth would they wanna be there? Protect the peak from corpses? Every army with chemical and biological weapons establishes a protocol to protect its own soldiers when it decides to use chemicals weapons like providing, antidote, special suits, gas masks etc. Even a sikh would know that.
But despite all that, I don`t think once the strike has been successful, Pak Army needs to hold positions there. I think a no-man land status is good enough for us, after planting a Pakistani flag on the peak.
#14 Posted by Ranjit on February 18, 2007 12:48:18 pm
Re:urstruly#12
[..I think Siachin can prove to be a great laboratory to test our chemical and biological weapons and their effectiveness in the battlefield....]
Are you related to Sikhs by any chance? I know that during the Sikhashahi, sardarjis would openly have affairs with muslim women, which is why Lahori women still have a fondness for sikhs. Only a sardar would come up with such a bone headed idea.
Once you drop the chemical and biological weapons on Indians in Siachen, how will the Paki soldiers survive there or control the glacier? If the Indian soldiers get eliminated, so will the Pakis. Ever thought about that?
[..I think Siachin can prove to be a great laboratory to test our chemical and biological weapons and their effectiveness in the battlefield....]
Are you related to Sikhs by any chance? I know that during the Sikhashahi, sardarjis would openly have affairs with muslim women, which is why Lahori women still have a fondness for sikhs. Only a sardar would come up with such a bone headed idea.
Once you drop the chemical and biological weapons on Indians in Siachen, how will the Paki soldiers survive there or control the glacier? If the Indian soldiers get eliminated, so will the Pakis. Ever thought about that?
#13 Posted by Moosadr on February 18, 2007 12:44:00 pm
Pakistan can import Prime Minister, why not a bag of credibility?
That is the real question, So I think there’s a credibility factor in case Siachen.
That is the real question, So I think there’s a credibility factor in case Siachen.
#12 Posted by Urstruly on February 18, 2007 12:33:21 pm
``testicular fortitude`` eh
Yes, I think so. I saw the very vajpayee who was brandishing sword in Indian parliament threatening Pakistan to ``put it in place`` was peeing in his dhoti in the days of kargill. With the Kargill, the message was very clear that, we do not give a shit to your nuclear power.
Having said that, I think Siachin can prove to be a great laboratory to test our chemical and biological weapons and their effectiveness in the battlefield. It`s not that we are targeting civilian population or anything; Indian army at Siachin is fair game and a legitimate military target. I say wipe the rodents.
#11 Posted by arjun2 on February 18, 2007 10:59:59 am
#10 by Urstruly on February 18, 2007 10:36am PT
I think Pakistan has every right to use chemical and biological weapons to clean up our Siachin Glacier from these pests.
sure..you have the right...but do you have the testicular fortitude?
I think Pakistan has every right to use chemical and biological weapons to clean up our Siachin Glacier from these pests.
sure..you have the right...but do you have the testicular fortitude?
#10 Posted by Urstruly on February 18, 2007 10:36:20 am
I think Pakistan has every right to use chemical and biological weapons to clean up our Siachin Glacier from these pests. A chemical weapon strike will effectively and pointedly wipe off Indian troop build up there. As it happens Pakistan should pursue a no-man`s land status for Siachin and 20 km perimeter around it for punitive measures against Indian aggression.
After Kargil, the next best option is chemical weapon strike in that area while preserving its integrity; nuclear deterent must be ready in case iNdians try to open up another front elsewhere. I don`t mind them keeping them there at the expense of 10 million rupees per day; but I think teaching them a lesson and containing them is more important, especially at this time when Americans and Europeans have their testicals tied to trees in Afghansitan.
#9 Posted by delhiwala on February 18, 2007 9:46:05 am
how about Global Warming causing this meltdown?
#8 Posted by arjun2 on February 18, 2007 4:39:26 am
#7 by okhla99 on February 17, 2007 10:57pm PT
you can save the glaciers by authenticating...
you can save the glaciers by authenticating...
#7 Posted by okhla99 on February 17, 2007 10:57:26 pm
Re: # 6
... and of course, to hell with the ecology and ``those darn glaciers``. Is`nt it, dear Arjun?
... and of course, to hell with the ecology and ``those darn glaciers``. Is`nt it, dear Arjun?
#6 Posted by arjun2 on February 17, 2007 10:15:10 pm
#5 by okhla99 on February 17, 2007 9:22pm PT
because you pakis can`t be trusted to not sneak up on the the heights if India vacates them..
if you don`t want to authenticate, keep spending a disproportionate amount on siachen..your choice..
if you think the indian occupation is illegal, do what India did in Kargil...kick the occupiers out of the land you think is illegally occupied...
because you pakis can`t be trusted to not sneak up on the the heights if India vacates them..
if you don`t want to authenticate, keep spending a disproportionate amount on siachen..your choice..
if you think the indian occupation is illegal, do what India did in Kargil...kick the occupiers out of the land you think is illegally occupied...
#5 Posted by okhla99 on February 17, 2007 9:22:05 pm
Re: # 3
Why, O Why ???
Why is the ``authentication`` of a blatantly illegal occupation so important to India ???
Why, O Why ???
Why is the ``authentication`` of a blatantly illegal occupation so important to India ???
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