samar qureshi February 26, 2007
#2 Posted by samar1982 on March 6, 2007 12:30:25 am
#1#teshah,
Thank you, so much, sir, for your interact. I had started thinking that my write-up might perhaps be completely ignored.
In fact, you seem to endorse what I had tried to convey in my interact, i.e. uselessness and hopelessness of religions. We despised pagans for worshiping (physical) images and then formed our own images in our minds which were then thought of being desecrated and destroyed by so-called and so thought of infidels. In some way or the other, this has been done by all religions. So, what is the point in following some organized religion at all?
Here arises the question of words and their meanings. May be, God gave some divine message to the Paigamber. But when he told it to some ordinary human being he understood it as per his capacity and with his prejudices of love, submission etc. etc. And when after some years this human being scripted the message the meaning must have distorted further. Then there are other interpreters. Suppose even he understood and scripted the God`s message correctly but how can we believe that it went on further without distortion.
Many religions, including Islam, does not approve of the presence of anyone/anything between God and his creation. Then forget Mullahs, how even religion or the book should come in-between.
All this is indeed mind boggling. So, ordinary people must start thinking rationally and propagate reason to such extent that mind boggling strength of `Zalooman Jahoolan` may be countered.
Samar
Thank you, so much, sir, for your interact. I had started thinking that my write-up might perhaps be completely ignored.
In fact, you seem to endorse what I had tried to convey in my interact, i.e. uselessness and hopelessness of religions. We despised pagans for worshiping (physical) images and then formed our own images in our minds which were then thought of being desecrated and destroyed by so-called and so thought of infidels. In some way or the other, this has been done by all religions. So, what is the point in following some organized religion at all?
Here arises the question of words and their meanings. May be, God gave some divine message to the Paigamber. But when he told it to some ordinary human being he understood it as per his capacity and with his prejudices of love, submission etc. etc. And when after some years this human being scripted the message the meaning must have distorted further. Then there are other interpreters. Suppose even he understood and scripted the God`s message correctly but how can we believe that it went on further without distortion.
Many religions, including Islam, does not approve of the presence of anyone/anything between God and his creation. Then forget Mullahs, how even religion or the book should come in-between.
All this is indeed mind boggling. So, ordinary people must start thinking rationally and propagate reason to such extent that mind boggling strength of `Zalooman Jahoolan` may be countered.
Samar
#1 Posted by teshah on March 4, 2007 7:22:03 pm
A rather simplistic attempt at categorising human grouping on the basis of faith or belief. At rational level it is alright but when we go into obscurantism, bigotry and fanaticism engendered by different belief systems we see man as `Zalooman Jahoolan` (unjust and foolish) in the words of Qurani Allah.
Just see Islam. Pre-Islamic Arab society was too religious (Mazhab zaddah) but those who converted to Islam (Mohammedan one) called them `Jahiliya`, `Mushrikeen`, etc.. Some of them who later converted to Islam, came to be called `Munafiqeen`, all professing faith in God. Then there are some religions, like Buddism, which don`t believe in God at all.
It is in fact difficult even to define and categorize the plethora of religions what to talk of doing so in respect of human thought over the centuries. It is all mind-boggling to say the least.
Just see Islam. Pre-Islamic Arab society was too religious (Mazhab zaddah) but those who converted to Islam (Mohammedan one) called them `Jahiliya`, `Mushrikeen`, etc.. Some of them who later converted to Islam, came to be called `Munafiqeen`, all professing faith in God. Then there are some religions, like Buddism, which don`t believe in God at all.
It is in fact difficult even to define and categorize the plethora of religions what to talk of doing so in respect of human thought over the centuries. It is all mind-boggling to say the least.
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