Tahera Sajid March 9, 2007
#62 Posted by ZahraJ on March 18, 2007 5:10:19 am
Re: # 60
Very interesting. I never realized that some women have such low self esteem that they find this fictional piece an inspiration. I did not realize that things were that bad.
Very interesting. I never realized that some women have such low self esteem that they find this fictional piece an inspiration. I did not realize that things were that bad.
#65 Posted by ELUSIVE on March 20, 2007 2:25:51 am
Re: # 62
Sadly, though one can not ignore the fact that an uneducated woman, who has spent all her life, in the belief that she can not survive in this society without a man, and unfortunately, also brainwashed that it will be wrong for her to not acquiesce to monogamy since religion allows it, does indeed, have a very low self esteem.
And for those simple woman, even a short story, which might lack intellectual depth, can be a source of hope and strength. But you missed the point there... The emphasis is not the story or the ``inspiration`` as you put it, it is the fact that many women in Pakistan , do not have the strength to stand up for themselves. And that indeed, is a very sorry state of affairs.
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Sadly, though one can not ignore the fact that an uneducated woman, who has spent all her life, in the belief that she can not survive in this society without a man, and unfortunately, also brainwashed that it will be wrong for her to not acquiesce to monogamy since religion allows it, does indeed, have a very low self esteem.
And for those simple woman, even a short story, which might lack intellectual depth, can be a source of hope and strength. But you missed the point there... The emphasis is not the story or the ``inspiration`` as you put it, it is the fact that many women in Pakistan , do not have the strength to stand up for themselves. And that indeed, is a very sorry state of affairs.
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#61 Posted by TaheraSajid on March 15, 2007 8:56:27 am
Re: # 60
Many thanks for your kind words...
Many females do find solace in being `drama queens` as you put it, while many others even refuse to acknowledge their emotions...and then there are some warm and gentle women who grow, evolve and gain strength from adversity...each responds in a way unique to her person.
I`m glad you liked Sonya for who she was....and my portrayal of her character. :)
Many thanks for your kind words...
Many females do find solace in being `drama queens` as you put it, while many others even refuse to acknowledge their emotions...and then there are some warm and gentle women who grow, evolve and gain strength from adversity...each responds in a way unique to her person.
I`m glad you liked Sonya for who she was....and my portrayal of her character. :)
#58 Posted by epiphany on March 14, 2007 7:25:58 am
Re: # 41
Thank you for your clarification. Hope to read more from you.
Take care!
Thank you for your clarification. Hope to read more from you.
Take care!
#54 Posted by bjkumar on March 13, 2007 10:58:20 am
#50 Zahraji
You are right, dear sis!
A bit of mirchi is quite basic to most desi preparations, but too much mirchi alone does not a good meal make - in fact it is perhaps highly damaging to one`s health.
Especially so when it is time to do the overall numbers - in the light of the morning - when the excesses of the long night have to be accounted for - and the pain is overbearing.
And so is the stench!
:)
#51 Posted by FaizAliShah on March 13, 2007 12:00:36 am
End of this love story is quite realistic and sane.
the desired end of the story that all women folks wish is not possible in this real world might be u would find it out in some bollywood movie story.
anyway
Written very well , keep writing and sharing on chowk and be realistic
#56 Posted by ZahraJ on March 13, 2007 1:51:35 pm
Re: # 51
Being a woman, I do not want to see such ``realistic`` stuff that deprives women of their basic rights. I also don`t want to read about the yesteryear practices and put them on a pedestal celebrating a regressive and to some extent demented cultural mindset. So, please do not assume that what is realistic to you may be realistic to others as well.
By the way, the concept of happiness is very brutally butchered in today`s world. It`s an internal emotion vs. an external facade. And not everyone watches Bollywood bukwas to define love, happiness, joy and felicity.
Hope you have a happy day!
Being a woman, I do not want to see such ``realistic`` stuff that deprives women of their basic rights. I also don`t want to read about the yesteryear practices and put them on a pedestal celebrating a regressive and to some extent demented cultural mindset. So, please do not assume that what is realistic to you may be realistic to others as well.
By the way, the concept of happiness is very brutally butchered in today`s world. It`s an internal emotion vs. an external facade. And not everyone watches Bollywood bukwas to define love, happiness, joy and felicity.
Hope you have a happy day!
#52 Posted by TaheraSajid on March 13, 2007 1:23:30 am
Re: # 51
Thank you for sharing your observations about my story...and also for the appreciation. :)
Thank you for sharing your observations about my story...and also for the appreciation. :)
#49 Posted by bjkumar on March 12, 2007 9:39:04 pm
#47 by ZahraJ
Ama Zahraji, that plot I wrote is quite realistic fiction – even if it includes rather unhappy stuff. (Except for the last sentence about Ram rajya which, as far as most people can guess, is extremely unlikely.) Perhaps I was trying to impress upon mian Hamidm2 that I am not limited to sappy plots!
Homosexuality, jihadism, murder for hire, illicit sex – all of these are simple facts of life in Pakistan and elsewhere. No reason for you to find their inclusion in the plot so discomforting and disconcerting?! :(
[I am glad that you are not writing the sequel.]
You realize I am known to sit down and do exactly that upon the least of provocations! You are not trying to provoke, are you?! :)
#57 Posted by hamidm2 on March 13, 2007 9:44:01 pm
Re: # 49
bj,
............... sorry, i was busy and almost missed your lovely plot for the sequel - it is much much better than this utterly sappy and predictable piece of writing ........ it seems to me that women love to wallow in their misery and write crap like this not because they are actually outraged and want to right a wrong; they do it simply because they want to have a good cry ......... women, like our desi poets, just love to cry and whine about unrequited love, boorish lovers and bitchy mothers-in-law ............ this type of writing is a lucrative genre and industry in itself - a strange mishmash of stuff that titillates and excites pubescent girls and frustrated housewives ....... maybe ms tahera can one day join the ranks of danielle steele and jackie collins ........... i wish her well, but i still prefer you, dean koontz and john grisham - real men who write unadulterated crap for real men ............
bj,
............... sorry, i was busy and almost missed your lovely plot for the sequel - it is much much better than this utterly sappy and predictable piece of writing ........ it seems to me that women love to wallow in their misery and write crap like this not because they are actually outraged and want to right a wrong; they do it simply because they want to have a good cry ......... women, like our desi poets, just love to cry and whine about unrequited love, boorish lovers and bitchy mothers-in-law ............ this type of writing is a lucrative genre and industry in itself - a strange mishmash of stuff that titillates and excites pubescent girls and frustrated housewives ....... maybe ms tahera can one day join the ranks of danielle steele and jackie collins ........... i wish her well, but i still prefer you, dean koontz and john grisham - real men who write unadulterated crap for real men ............
#50 Posted by ZahraJ on March 12, 2007 11:30:25 pm
Re: # 49
BJK - I want you to write the sequel.
See, your picture was in complete contrast to what a civil person will like to see. There is too much of hodgepodge in your story. I want it clean, sweet, romantic, and last but not least FAIR. I will be happy!
:)
BJK - I want you to write the sequel.
See, your picture was in complete contrast to what a civil person will like to see. There is too much of hodgepodge in your story. I want it clean, sweet, romantic, and last but not least FAIR. I will be happy!
:)
#46 Posted by scout_new on March 12, 2007 5:04:30 pm
interesting story but something`s off... i`m not sure what, i`d like to think most devoted husbands wouldn`t do this to their wives of ten years... but then this was a story... i wonder how things would have changed if she had a baby girl, not really the eastern version of a heir but a baby nevertheless.
anyway, good read, someone said it was a bit Soapy and i agree, but that`s ok, it held the reader`s interest till the end
anyway, good read, someone said it was a bit Soapy and i agree, but that`s ok, it held the reader`s interest till the end
#48 Posted by TaheraSajid on March 12, 2007 8:51:28 pm
Re: # 46
Thanks for your comments...glad you found the piece to be a good read, even though a bit `off`!!! :)
Thanks for your comments...glad you found the piece to be a good read, even though a bit `off`!!! :)
#45 Posted by bjkumar on March 12, 2007 2:57:57 pm
#44 by ZahraJ
Good imagination but a bit too sissy for my taste! Let me provide an alternate version – a bit shorter than yours, but more of a macho suspense theme.
Sonya is mad at her ex-hubby. She goes hires a hatchet man. Hatchet man hacks ex-hubby to death – cannibalizing a few vital organs. Sonya has no money to pay him so she tries to sleep with him. But hatchet man is gay – Sonya detests him. Hatchet man blackmails her. Sonya steals from mother-in-law to pay him. But the money has actually come from the Mullah who is having an affair with the mother-in-law and who is secretly funding mother-in-law by stealing from jihadi boxes. The jihadis come after the hatchet man, but they are gay in temperament and the hatchet man is able to charm them and sleep with them. Sonya gets pregnant through artificial insemination but loses custody of the children to the hatchet man and his partner gay jihadi and the children grow up to become butch lesbians. Then Pakistan develops into a progressive, liberal Ram rajya and everybody starts to live happily ever after. End of story!
#47 Posted by ZahraJ on March 12, 2007 8:41:04 pm
Re: # 45
BJK - Sorry, very dark, vulgar and inappropriate imagination. I am glad that you are not writing the sequel.
BJK - Sorry, very dark, vulgar and inappropriate imagination. I am glad that you are not writing the sequel.
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