Teaching Science Badly – and Well

Re: # 50

bulleya:

I would not call math science .... let alone pure science. Math is a language used by science to minimize logical errors and at times, it is used for precision. Perhaps, Math is art.

Those humanities
Management
And Lawyers are calling the shots
while the scientist are like coolies working for either ministers
or at ther mercy of secretaries of Bush (non scientist)

dear Pervez
it will be said science has been taught well,when the science pupil is made to master ``facts``, in a proper and correct way. facts must never suffer change even in a barely tangible measure. when this accuracy is ingrained in the science scholar, he will not need any religious, moral or SCIENCE sermon to tell him facts must never be changed deliberately, for the forces of caste, creed or greed.

But Hamidm, to change the unpalatable subject and on another point, perhaps you know that the best mathematical and IT talent is neither with Chinese nor the hinjus nor anywhere in the USA. It is in Romania and the Czech Republic .. and neighbouring regions.

#79 by hamidm2

Sorry .. but the truth is usually not that palatable ...

Re: # 78

zeemax,

..... bjkumar`s remark was funny, yours was crude as usual .......

#77 by bjkumar

[everytime i go to visit her i find the trash cans full of vodka bottles (yes, i check!)]

Sure. Underneath a pile of used condoms i.e. ...

#75

[everytime i go to visit her i find the trash cans full of vodka bottles (yes, i check!)]

Always looking for free booze, aren`t you?

masadi re iLog:

You have made the correct decision. Godspeed to you Sir.

tehsin, you idiot !

`` Even today go to any good American University and attend a philosophy, history, political science, art or anthropology class and you will find that the class is full of Americans, but go to a calculus, physics, chemistry or natural sciences class and you will see them disproportionately filled with Muslims from Arab and non Arab countries. ``

..... first of all, for every muslim in these classes there are at least 15 indians and twenty chinks and you will neve find an african american in a topology or number theory class -they are all in cornell west`s class on how to fry a turkey without setting your house on fire ........

....... why ? ........ here is how it works, and i will explain it to you just one time: a typical calc 101 class at a major university starts out with over 500 students with students sitting on the floor and rolling in the aisles ....... after the first test, there are about 300 left and after mid-term you are lucky if there are a hundred ....... out of the hundred, ten commit suicide because they realize they are not as smart as their parents led them to believe and another forty take up sociology, history, greek mythology and philosophy so that they can make easy a`s and drink more beer which, after all, is the main purpose of going to college and you cannot graduate unless you consume 400 gallons over the 4 years - at places like arizona state the requirement is 600 gallons ........ and don`t let your daughter fool you - it is the same at small liberal arts colleges ........ my daughter claims she goes to the `geekiest` school in the world and yet evertime i go to visit her i find the trash cans full of vodka bottles (yes, i check!) ......

....... anyway, back to the subject ........calculus, physics and chemistry sciences are `weed-out` classes - i was told that on my first day on the job as a math ta when i complained about having to grade fifty tests - sure enough, by the end of the semester i was grading only ten or so .......... those who flunk out - four out of five - go on to read utterly useless subjects like history and sociology and end up like masadi mian, dick cheney, and my favourite bartender and philosopher ............ unfortunately these flunkies go on to become politicians and actors and rule the world or , more alarmingly, pour your drinks .....................

...... and, in case you didn`t notice, the nerdy science students from india and china are kicking the history-reading american posteriors to the point that even george bush is learning to do long division ...........

#71 by ahmedmadani

The wall is good for Pakistan. Iran is preparing for war, and it might spread into Pakistani Baluchistan if there`s no wall.

Re: # 69
For continued page. Read in detail my comment about GM food by K.Siddiqi , you will be be surpriced to find information about monster goat.That is good article and it is wriien densely with full of knowledge.

Re: # 58
Arjun you always draw wrong conclusions.
In India PhD people have no jobs so they accept teachers jobs. Here are lots of good jobs so who will accept lowly paid and lowly consdered teaching peofession than make huge amounts of money in ``Real work``. Kolkatta has most PhD in Physic and maths driving taxies it was news
Lately you may not be feeling so good with all news of forign investors crowding in north upland counrty of India.
Well You need to accept international business is interested in big G. I have found Iranians and Indians getting uneasy due to big G. Iranians will closing Chahbahar port and connecting railway to central asia and all that money put by indians to damage big G going to be wasted.As big G becomes in near future great transshipment center for asia.

Re: # 61
We should aware of Iranians(parsees etc).
I think they are ``planning`` something by building 600 kilometers wall along border and seperating people brutely. I have not seen any foreign powers asying against that. 600 km long, 2 ft thick and 20 ft height was is shear mad action. I think they want to make mischief in S.Arabia also.

...here is an interesting science project going on in pakistan.........

http://sse.lums.edu.pk/

Re: # 68

Excellent commentary. Old times people had blind belief in Religion ( miracles and magic stories etc ) like donkey who will work whole day in hope of getting food in evening and owner will whip him and give little food. Now todays misuguided youth have blind faith in confidence in science and techknowledge that they can get good job and be HAPPY ALL time.
I consider teaching is good if boys and girls go to college and need no tution.
I consider teaching ok if boys and girls go college and also have tution help.
I consider teaching bad if do not attend college but just go to tution.
Failure of teaching system starts after primary school when tution starts.
But I do not blame yound people as they have real problems as they are breathing air, drinking water which is life less and food is factory produced by playing with nature and poisoning what we breathe, what drink and what we eat and damaging eyes by watching TV and movies ( indian vulgar movies) and damaging their ears and sensibilities permanantly also always reading under artificial electric bulbs and devoid of natural sunlight , suffocating themselves with cold humid air from airconditioners. I do not tell even my daughters as they feel , I do not understood modern world and they they say strange things . They feel I hate modern things as I am old and just getting remorse of getting old etc. I told them not advice me my ways are right, norrow and straight. Nobody listens nowdays to sane things . Any way if students cut on tutions will be better for parents.
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