Teaching Science Badly – and Well

#20 by dotty,

Yes I agree. But you can only have an academic career like the good professor if you want to pursue `real` subjects to any significant degree. That`s why `applied` subjects are popular. Certainly, in rich societies, there`s the luxury of pursuing these profound disciplines with research grants. Not in Pakistan or India.

BTW ... how many physics or chemistry or botany or biology majors do your cherished IITs produce in your country?

It is a habit of hoodbhoy to knock Pakistan unnecassarily. He is a phoren agent :~)

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#29 by samar1982 on March 2, 2007 9:41am PT
What is so adherence to science is in INDIA....

The kind of newtons Physics application by Modi And other of his like Murli manohar joshi are using physics for babarity ....

What deductive thinking in creartng Ganesh Idol and dipping it in the Arabian sea while forcing the whole city & traffic to standstill all against the convenience of Productive people

What is Kumbh mela with millions naked people having orgy... i know to you
muslims also may seem to be doing in mecca BUT WE DONT DISGUISE I OURSELF AS SCIENTIFIC AS YOU do

#26 by bulleya

Excellent post.

I have always held soft social sciences above hard sciences for the `learning` part in `knowledge. Both terms are not interchangeable.

The company of anthropologists and archaeologists particularly delights me. Except of-course, particle physicists on Bhang/Charas ... and not without :~)

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#33#Shah2

Now you got to the point!!
Only thing is we welcome scientists and you kick them out!
We know that Modi, Ganesh, kumbh and are all rubbish. We don`t disguise, we accept.
We want learned people to educate us.
Understood?

But I don`t want to engage in Hindu/Muslim, India/Pak type crap. I leave the field open for you now.

Zeemax Ankalji has also come! Have a nice day/night with him and other f**kers and masturbaters who are likely to come along sensing him!

Samar

#35 by samar1982

No. Actually not. Regrettably it isn`t. Otherwise I would kick your puny ass real good.

In the event, continue to spew your sophomoric BS .. :~)

#28 by khurram

[Btw, did you even read the article you linked to?]

I know what you mean, yaar. But you are reading that piece all wrong. Its writer (let’s not get into naming names here) took all the FUN out of it.

Let me explain. Using the same set of facts, here is how I would have written it (in part):

Obviously, for Einstein, Physics was the first (and for all practical purposes, the only real) love of his life. The same is probably true of many geniuses, not just scientists, who really accomplish in their chosen field but sometimes come up desperately short in their personal ones, perhaps thinking that the rules for simple folks do not apply to them. There is always a lot of “chiraag taley andhera” with some of these geniuses.

However…

This Einstein dude may have been rude and crude – but he was no prude – and for sure not a dud as a stud!! People like us know that there IS space in the scheme of things for simple janitors – not just geniuses – when they hear sentences like “He is a genius but you wouldn’t want to marry him.”

Just look at the facts! Marie did his laundry and other little things as token of her love for him. After all, what is life but just a bit of his dirty laundry to carry! Here was a man who dumped Marie but continued sending his laundry to her, which she did willingly. Either he took his women for granted, or he took his laundry VERY seriously – or perhaps he made no distinction between his women and dirty laundry!

And what did he do in Berlin? He grew friendly with his cousin Elsa with whom he slept while he was still married to Maleva. Talk about kissing cousins! And before marrying Elsa, he had considered marrying her daughter, Ilse, instead. A true do-gooder who never discriminated based on age!

And Elsa – bless her heart – permitted good old Al to see his mistress twice a week in exchange for keeping a low profile. Old Al being the scientist that he was – always looking for new challenges driven strictly by curiosity and the desire for knowledge – grew bored with her within a year and looked elsewhere for sex. Ah the good old days when wives were SO very understanding! Those creative juices needed a lot of stimulation to flow. It perhaps gave a new and literal meaning to the popular phrase – “behind every successful man, there is a woman!” Einstein was of course more than just “successful”, so extrapolate the number of women accordingly!

I wonder if it would work in reverse?

#17 zeemax and #21 Shah2

Totally agree with you guys..............Dr.Hoodboy seems like a little school boy sitting in a small laboratory doing some basic experiment and thinks this the whole universe................and is unable to see beyond..........Very myopic view.

#14........nonsensical approach.

Dr. Hoodboy,
I love science. Thanks for your sincere feelings and rational thoughts.
Best wishes,
Minhaj

#42

Perhaps because the Romair subscribes to a different school of thought - that if there is a simple idea which can be communicated to most people in the simplest of words, one must strive to find the most convoluted explanation and the murkiest words around to enhance its scope uniformly over approximately ten full-scape pages. And it is all absolutely ``enjoyable``.

La allah, illilah, Mohammad-ur-Rasulallah

End of Science

scinece in its purest form is not an economic activity nor is it meant for economic return. It just improves the human condition.
The sort of science Romair and zeemax are talking about is economic science - which is not meant for pleasure nor interest but is driven by economic interest. Indeed, it has been found that even then, this economic scicnce cannot be driven forward if looked upon purely in terms of economic return. This economic science is neither pure nor applied science in the strictest sense - it is the science of the money-lender. (economic scicne is not Economics please donot mix them).

Money motivation doesnot make good scince (pure or applied). It becomes boring, banal, crap, and you end up as a General Drone making money for someone else. The good professor makes eminent sense.

Re: # 47

khurram:

Point taken

arjun:

``Science as it`s taught in India is certainly not enjoyable``

Agreed!

Re #42,
``But the author asserts that if you have to do science then do it in a way that makes it enjoyable. What`s wrong with that?``

Nothing wrong at all.
But the author does a little more.He identifies this as the cause of ``why then do only a few students in Pakistan want to become scientists``

zeemax & bulleya offered another, more plausible, explanation.