Fight Hudood, Protect Women

Zahra,

Agreed mostly, but with a correction: abuse of Ahamdis and abuse of women are not two issues worlds apart (despite your seeming suggestion). Rather, they are somewhat related … in that they underscore how easily and swiftly Islam can be distorted and used against one demographic group or another.

Ullema may band together and call anything Islam as long as it fits their nefarious agenda. Exploitation of Ahmadis and women are but a few examples; and this is only the beginning.

If allowed to go unchecked, this “Islamic law” will turn against non-Muslims, Shiites and other sects within Islam, business community, education system, government bureaucracy, and so on. Group that will benefit most from this exploitation is jamaati-type sunni, male, wahabhi pricks … which explains why they are pushing most vehemently for this “Islamization”. This shariah business aims to marginalize one group after the other ... until the society ends up in the dark ages.

The most interesting aspect is that I had no clue on the current situation of the CJ in Pakistan. I wrote in the heat of the moment without realizing the current state of affairs. Lo and Behold, it turns out that he has been dismissed. Well, that`s Pakistan. In fact, it is completely in line with how things happen in Pakistan. Is that abuse or implementation of power?

Re: # 377

Sattar - Thank you for your explanation. The emphasis is on ``abuse``. I guess in that respect we can draw parallels between anything.

I am not sure it`s worth taking anyone seriously on Chowk regarding their views on abuse of Ahmadis or abuse of women`s rights. Yes, sometimes it`s real annoying when uncouth fellows start barking up the wrong tree. But then you or I have no control on anyone`s mind or their thought process. Why lose sleep? I have quite a few characters on my ignore list so I do not get to read their incoherent and inappropriate nonsense. Some of us do not frequent Chowk to read gibberish and silly interacts from mature men and women.

Hopefully, you had a nice weekend.

Take Care.

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#377 ``abuse of Ahamdis and abuse of women have a lot in common``

really?

Zahraj (#254),

Oh ho bhai … itni si baat …

I was merely correcting Quranic reference on adultery (#127). A few posts later, honorable abu_safwaan sahib starting hurling abuses at me for being an Ahmadi (what’s the connection? … beats me). Similar attitude was adopted by Zeena against kulharree (#157), who had earlier pointed out possibility of mob rule in the name of “Islamic law”…

What’s the connection here? … I myself wonder. Perhaps we should ask abu. My stomach turns at the thought of engaging him in a meaningful discussion. But are you willing to take that chance … ?

Part of the discussion later gravitated towards “limitless rights” of minorities … to which I responded in #253. Who knows … a woman asking for divorce may be considered a tramp clamoring for “limitless rights” under this Islamic law.

So the answer to your question is … “no”. There is nothing in common between Ahmadi movement and women’s rights. However, abuse of Ahamdis and abuse of women have a lot in common … both are justified on basis of “Islamic law”.

And this is just the beginning. No wonder ummah is going to the dogs …

okhla: I am all for opposing viewpoints, but within certain reasonable limits. teshah was adding insult to the very real injury suffered by mukhtaran mai. This is not merely a ``different viewpoint`` - there is no room for discussion or debate when it comes to condoning the harrassment of women.

#371 by okhla99

Abey mediocre !@#$%^ ... mass murderers have their own logic too ... go and sit in their lap as well.

As for ramchandar, he is even a worse nali ka keera than dhotilal_googlemal who are best ignored and to be crushed underfoot if found being too much of a nuisance ..

I do not rate bjkumar in the above category yet .. though surprisingly he is increasingly getting there.

Tahmed Bhai,

We don`t agree with him, his views are contrary to what we find rational and acceptable. But does that make him a ``dangar``? Should people with views contrary to our own be hounded out of Chowk?? A lot of us find BJK to be virulently anti Pakistan/ anti islam/ anti muslims. He is also a confirmed plagiariser. But he has his own entertainment value. Should he be thrown out of Chowk?? What about Masadi?? His rabidness notwithstanding, he follows a different logic and rationality in which he reallybelieves. Should he go too??

Let us not be so intolerant of opposing viewpoints.

Can you not see any difference between #368 & #358?? I can. and therefore I stand for every word of #371.

#371 oklha: i dont see you can lump a man and a dangar together - bjkumar doesnt go around condoning the rape of women like teshah dhagha. what is the ``logic`` you see in condoing the rape of a women and bad-mouthing the woman when she protests??

#366 zeemax: Very well said.

Chacha Zee,

Teshah & BJKumar have their own logic, convoluted though it may be. Your fury should be directed more at Ramchander et al. who do not appear to be capable of rational discussion.

Krishna,

I know what u mean. I am wrong to club those figures with Gandhi. Pl dont read too much into the wrong clubbing. May be my ideas got jammed there. What I exactly meant was this: `Nobody`s perfect`.


Thanks.

Krishna,

I know what u mean. I am wrong to club those figures with Gandhi. Pl dont read too much into the wrong clubbing. May be my ideas got jammed there. What I exactly meant was this: `Nobody`s perfect`.


Thanks.

ref#367
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Please stop posting the photos of beutiful Pakistani ladies for injuns to drool over .. ]

Dear BJ

You can only post their picture once they have been raped by their brothers. Some of the bhench0ds like teshah will cast aspersions on their rape stories.

bjkumar,

Please stop posting the photos of beutiful Pakistani ladies for injuns to drool over ..