Beena Sarwar March 6, 2007
#366 Posted by zeemax on March 12, 2007 12:19:58 am
I was wrong to call teshah a munafiq. It is obvious he is a non-Muslim intent upon defaming Islam and Muslims as a pre-determined agenda.
I have never seen a more odious and reprehensible person who blames the victim of a gang-rape witnessed by dozens (who merely refused to give testimony in court due to coercion by the perpetrators) to have had ulterior motives of her own in inviting the act upon herself.
It would be appropriate to wish him (by own efforts or through female surrogates) to also get the opportunity to have the same windfall as the Mai managed to obtain.
I have never seen a more odious and reprehensible person who blames the victim of a gang-rape witnessed by dozens (who merely refused to give testimony in court due to coercion by the perpetrators) to have had ulterior motives of her own in inviting the act upon herself.
It would be appropriate to wish him (by own efforts or through female surrogates) to also get the opportunity to have the same windfall as the Mai managed to obtain.
#365 Posted by bjkumar on March 11, 2007 8:49:48 pm
#361 Tauheed sahib
Welcome, and hope you did not take it the wrong way, I just could not resist the flair! You know how it is - such special moments are getting sparser and sparser!
:)
#364 Posted by tahmed32 on March 11, 2007 8:42:04 pm
#360 teshah dhagha: i know you are there. take your time to get the chaara in your brain working. i`ll be back later to see what you have come up with.
#363 Posted by tahmed32 on March 11, 2007 8:38:14 pm
#360 teshah dhagha: type fast. i dont have all evening for a dhagha. get your ass moving.
#362 Posted by tahmed32 on March 11, 2007 8:37:28 pm
#360 teshah dhagha: where in the quran did you read that ``low caste`` woman are ok to rape?
#361 Posted by tahmed32 on March 11, 2007 8:36:19 pm
bjkumar: much obliged for pointing to the right beena. :-)
#359 Posted by tahmed32 on March 11, 2007 8:33:43 pm
teshah: Your dhagha-ness is obvious from this post.
#357 Posted by krishna_abcd on March 11, 2007 6:29:30 pm
#356 by Folio
[OK, now I got why u r asking this. Ur focus is Gandhi. ]
No, it`s not.
The following statements are interchangeable, and all of them are equivalent for getting the SAME point across:
Given that, would you say that there is any difference between Mother Teresa, for example, and Idi Amin? Or would you say that they are more or less comparable, given that neither of them is perfect?
Given that, would you say that there is any difference between Jesus, for example, and Hitler? Or would you say that they are more or less comparable, given that neither of them is perfect?
Given that, would you say that there is any difference between Buddha, for example, and Pol Pot? Or would you say that they are more or less comparable, given that neither of them is perfect?
See if this helps you get the point.
Let me know if I`m being too difficult to understand.
[OK, now I got why u r asking this. Ur focus is Gandhi. ]
No, it`s not.
The following statements are interchangeable, and all of them are equivalent for getting the SAME point across:
Given that, would you say that there is any difference between Mother Teresa, for example, and Idi Amin? Or would you say that they are more or less comparable, given that neither of them is perfect?
Given that, would you say that there is any difference between Jesus, for example, and Hitler? Or would you say that they are more or less comparable, given that neither of them is perfect?
Given that, would you say that there is any difference between Buddha, for example, and Pol Pot? Or would you say that they are more or less comparable, given that neither of them is perfect?
See if this helps you get the point.
Let me know if I`m being too difficult to understand.
#356 Posted by Folio on March 11, 2007 2:11:37 pm
Krishna,
OK, now I got why u r asking this. Ur focus is Gandhi. My honest opinion whislt we`re preparing for Civils is that we use to joke on Gandhi....many many jokes. On a serious note Gandhi was a politician......
From Hindu-Muslim pov, he tried to synthasise the two warring schisms in Indian politics. In order to save India from partition he said something unpalatable....did even many more unpalatable things(to some section of people).....all his efforts went down the drain. He paid it with his life. Nobody likes him in his home state i.e Gujarat now.
On H-M pov.....it`s got to be that way. It`s a matter providence. Cant feel sorry abt the split milk. I honestly believe that British Indian map is not Bharat Mata. On Gandhi again....he`s destiny of India. We cant roll back history. If there are lessons we shud learn them dispassionately. Honestly, I have mixed feelings abt Gandhi. He was not perfect. He happened to us. He`s eccentric, faddist, naturist, vegatarian, Gujarati, Hindu, Indian, bania, politician*, humanist, prisoner of circumstances and what not.
* If we see the old portraits he donned braided turban & non-Bharwards, Rabaaris dont wear that more so the banias. He played to the gallery as well.
OK, now I got why u r asking this. Ur focus is Gandhi. My honest opinion whislt we`re preparing for Civils is that we use to joke on Gandhi....many many jokes. On a serious note Gandhi was a politician......
From Hindu-Muslim pov, he tried to synthasise the two warring schisms in Indian politics. In order to save India from partition he said something unpalatable....did even many more unpalatable things(to some section of people).....all his efforts went down the drain. He paid it with his life. Nobody likes him in his home state i.e Gujarat now.
On H-M pov.....it`s got to be that way. It`s a matter providence. Cant feel sorry abt the split milk. I honestly believe that British Indian map is not Bharat Mata. On Gandhi again....he`s destiny of India. We cant roll back history. If there are lessons we shud learn them dispassionately. Honestly, I have mixed feelings abt Gandhi. He was not perfect. He happened to us. He`s eccentric, faddist, naturist, vegatarian, Gujarati, Hindu, Indian, bania, politician*, humanist, prisoner of circumstances and what not.
* If we see the old portraits he donned braided turban & non-Bharwards, Rabaaris dont wear that more so the banias. He played to the gallery as well.
#355 Posted by krishna_abcd on March 11, 2007 1:39:02 pm
#353 by Folio
I forgot to add:
Given that, would you say that there is any difference between Gandhi, for example, and Pol Pot? Or would you say that they are more or less comparable, given that neither of them is perfect?
I forgot to add:
Given that, would you say that there is any difference between Gandhi, for example, and Pol Pot? Or would you say that they are more or less comparable, given that neither of them is perfect?
#354 Posted by krishna_abcd on March 11, 2007 1:37:02 pm
#353 by Folio
[Krishna,
Nobody`s perfect in this world, including the religious, historical & political figures. ]
Folio,
I think you are avoiding my question. And I think you know why.
I AGREE with you - nobody is perfect.
Given that, would you say that there is any difference between Gandhi, for example, and Pol Pot?
[Krishna,
Nobody`s perfect in this world, including the religious, historical & political figures. ]
Folio,
I think you are avoiding my question. And I think you know why.
I AGREE with you - nobody is perfect.
Given that, would you say that there is any difference between Gandhi, for example, and Pol Pot?
#352 Posted by krishna_abcd on March 11, 2007 1:17:25 pm
#351 by Folio
Folio,
I was not commenting on your English at all. :-)
I was just wondering...would the following two sentences convey the same point that you wanted to express:
``Neither Muhammd, Jesus nor Gandhi was perfect.``
and
``Neither Muhammd, Jesus, Gandhi nor Jack the Ripper was perfect.``
Are these two statements equivalent, in your view?
Folio,
I was not commenting on your English at all. :-)
I was just wondering...would the following two sentences convey the same point that you wanted to express:
``Neither Muhammd, Jesus nor Gandhi was perfect.``
and
``Neither Muhammd, Jesus, Gandhi nor Jack the Ripper was perfect.``
Are these two statements equivalent, in your view?
#353 Posted by Folio on March 11, 2007 1:32:33 pm
Re: # 352
Krishna,
Nobody`s perfect in this world, including the religious, historical & political figures.
How come ur American politicians declare their intention to contest the presedential elections in comedy shows?
Eg. Johm McCain declared it in David Letterman show b4 he formally declared it outside in a solemn way.
Krishna,
Nobody`s perfect in this world, including the religious, historical & political figures.
How come ur American politicians declare their intention to contest the presedential elections in comedy shows?
Eg. Johm McCain declared it in David Letterman show b4 he formally declared it outside in a solemn way.
#351 Posted by Folio on March 11, 2007 1:11:00 pm
Krishna,
U have to pardon me 4 my poor English. What I meant was...`nobody`s perfect including Rama, Krishna, Muhammed, Jesus & Gandhi`.
P.S: I dont know how I got score 7 in IELTS exam, (7 means high proficiency in English)
U have to pardon me 4 my poor English. What I meant was...`nobody`s perfect including Rama, Krishna, Muhammed, Jesus & Gandhi`.
P.S: I dont know how I got score 7 in IELTS exam, (7 means high proficiency in English)
#350 Posted by krishna_abcd on March 11, 2007 1:04:11 pm
#337 by Folio
[Neither Muhammd, Jesus nor Gandhi was perfect.]
Would you say, then, that the statements
``Neither Muhammd, Jesus nor Gandhi was perfect.``
and
``Neither Muhammd, Jesus, Gandhi nor Jack the Ripper was perfect.``
express the same point of view?
Just wondering...
[Neither Muhammd, Jesus nor Gandhi was perfect.]
Would you say, then, that the statements
``Neither Muhammd, Jesus nor Gandhi was perfect.``
and
``Neither Muhammd, Jesus, Gandhi nor Jack the Ripper was perfect.``
express the same point of view?
Just wondering...
#349 Posted by Folio on March 11, 2007 12:58:43 pm
J: Yes, well enough to talk to my chhokras and housemaids. I have not got to address courts or judges in Urdu and I dont see why I should know more tongue; (I knew) Gujerati fairly well.
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