Revathy Gopal: RIP

#37 by Zeena

ZeenaJi, I beg your pardon, but what`s the harm in having this discussion right here?

I mean, If Revathy Gopal is in some sort of `peace` as wished upon her by atheists, I`m sure she`ll be quite delighted to find so many people remembering her and wanting her sincerely wished. I would just like to know where her atheist well-wishers want her to remain in peace.

On the other hand if they are lying and just being patronising to conform to some social correctness which is alien to their beliefs; do not mean what they are saying; and in fact their theories are correct, then it really doesn`t matter for Revathy what they`re mouthing to each other for lip service. Or does it?

Besides, Islam forbids mourning the dead and advocates serenity. So I do not find this argument here either immoral or insensitive.

This question is not only directed towards Gill, but to all preaching atheists etc ... They should come out of their little holes and either state their position or forever remain silent.

#36 zeemax sahib

hmmm, interesting and quite intellectual question with all the validity and intellectual honesty.

But, I still don`t wish this article to end up as an arguementative board.

zeemax jii

Can you write an article for FP based on your post #36? I want to start a discussion on this very particular topic with Mr.Gill(the famous atheist). Thanks

#7 by freethinker,

Mr. Gill, you said:

May she rest in peace.

Huh?

Who`re you talking about? Revathy Gopal died. End of the story according to your theory. Are you wishing peace upon fertilizer? Or ashes? Or maggot-feed?

Or, if you`re wishing `peace` upon Revathy Gopal ... where? In which land? What peace?

I`m sorry, but you`re being totally insincere in the memory of a good person by telling lies about which neither she believed nor you do ...

I regard this as the cruellest form of intellectual dishonesty.

Dehendriya manobuddhi ahankara chittani naham
Chidanad rupeya shivoham shivoham

-- Adi Shankar

Deha( body) indriyas ( senses), manh( stream of thoughts that doubt, consider and discard various options) buddhi( stream of thoughts which are decisive), chitta ( stream of thoughts involved in reasoning, analyzing, inquiring and speculating, ahankara (I – the consciousness present in every being) naham (I am not)

I am distinct from the body in which I dwell, from senses through which I perceive, from manah, buddhi and chitta constiting my Mind with which I think and decide, from ahankara which gives me consciousness of myself; I am separate and formless being who is only associated with these entities or I am the soul, or the jiva.

Then who I am? Chit( knowledge) anand ( bliss) shivoham(a brief statement of Shankara’s advait or monoism) I am shiva who is the form of bliss associated with knowledge.

(Commentary by V V Subrahmanyam of Rajahmundry ,Andhra Pradesh)

zeemax#31

Sir zeemax

With all due respect, everyone has their own way of sending condolences for the deceased ones. In my family culture we always send flowers for the family of dceased ones to comfort them , we even put flowers on the graves of our loved ones.

I am sorry, but, your approach is way too, constricted and narrow minded in this matter.
To you your belief, to us ours. Everyone has the equal right to express sorrow in their own ways.

Please, try to be more sensitive about other`s feelings.

PS:- Kindly refrain from making this board as another argumentative board. This board is purley to pay respect to the famous writer of chowk. Thanks

Will miss her.

....excepting Farzana of-course who addressed her post to HER and said ``But just this once why don’t you believe in an afterlife?

... Well Farzana .. you seem sure she`s reading this. Actually, I know she is. So that must be something of an eye opener for her ....

I have been in a quandary since this morning as to how to offer condolences. Though I really want to ....

I mean ... what can I say?

Other people are offering `God Bless her Soul` (?) , `Rest in Peace` (?), Peace and Grace in the eyes of God Almighty` (?); But to whom are they saying that? She is DEAD. She isn`t hearing any of it. She didn`t believe in anything of the silly stuff all are saying. So why`re people saying all this? Are they being condescending? Why?

It doesn`t matter for her anymore. Hers to her belief was just an organism which lived its natural life and came to an end. That`s all. So what`s the big deal in saying all these things to supposedly comfort her? Rather, isn`t that going against her own wishes?

I will say the appropriate thing. She will be missed. That`s all. Don`t even bother with flowers. She won`t see them.

RIP

As a person, Revathy Gopal indeed seemed to be a gem. May she find peace and grace in the eyes of God Almighty.

Frazana, could you post Gopal`s Tele Number.
Thanx

May she rest in peace, and may God bless her soul.

My heartfelt condolences to her family. May God bless them with courage and strength to carry on.

Ameen.

Ally
xxx

I also lost a close member of my family to cancer recently and I can imagine the pain the family is undergoing right now. There are certain things that are beyond our human comprehension and there is no alternative but to accept them.

May God give her family the courage to face this difficult time.

Rest in peace, departed soul.

That was SAD.

my condolenses, may her soul rest in peace

May her soul rest in peace!

Dear Revathy:

I want to say so much, but it is too late. You were the first person who came out and stood by me. I did not know you. I demanded pieces...remember the profile on Jayalalitha that you sent in at super-fast time? Then there was a pause. Wake up, I asked, and very gently you asked me to wait…I wondered why. Till I opened the attachment that accompanied your, as always, vivacious note, “Here it is, as ordered”. It spoke about your cancer.

It is rare to feel any guilt as a professional but I was in tears. I found your telephone number that was there with an old piece.

“How are you now?” I asked, rather foolishly, knowing that you were going through chemotherapy. And you said, “Surprisingly good.” I believed you. You said, “Come over for lunch or dinner…” I did not wish to trouble you. Then you gave me the bait of “South Indian coffee”. I waited for you to get better.

Even through my hiatus, we continued talking. “Why are you doing this?” was all you asked. You understood without my explaining. It did not matter to you. We had connected. You sent me books. I don’t do this often but I called you at regular intervals. It used to be tea-time, I remember. You sometimes sounded tired, just sometimes. Then you were leaving for London. “I’ll call you when I get back and then you have to come over,” you said.

I waited. I did not call. Wasn’t sure. Thought you were well…you did say you wanted to start some editing work, which could be done from home and which would not take up too much effort. I thought you were busy. I thought….why did I think so much?

Is this sounding treacly? But you told me I should not bother, just surge ahead. So, yes, Revathy, I just spoke to Gopal, your husband, partner and fellow writer. He said you were fond of me, that we shared our values and ideologies. I know you were a rational person. But just this once why don’t you believe in an afterlife?

I am still greedy. I want my coffee. And I still want to read you.

Love always,
F