Revathy Gopal: RIP

Zeemax sahib #43
Your posts are intellectual with logic and you make all the sense.

Quite honestly, you opened my eyes.

Chowk staff
If it is OK to post it here, I may have to add it here. I feel the need of it.

I do agree with Mr.zeemax on this.

Gill sahib, why this contradiction? Show some intellectual honesty.

Gill sahib always advertise openly on FP that He is atheist, so according to atheist, there is NO life after death....................

Then , if, we go by this logic, he should stick to his intellectual honesty, and shouldn`t say the things he doesn`t believe, ``like may she rest in peace``. That means HE believes in life after death and He is nOT atheist

... because they`ll be alive while you`ll be DEAD.

I hope my position is clear.

Re: # 43

Your interacts are embarassing. I agree with Farzana`s stance on your nonsense.

...... #41 ...

... I will wish peace upon the worms who eat you when you die ..

That`s a promise.

#39 by FarzanaVersey

FV, I don`t agree with your contention that ``No one is answerable to anyone to hold the views they hold and express sorrow as they choose to do.``

Expression of sorrow if it is a lie loses its validity. It is an insult to the dignity of the dead.

Ijaz:

I hope you understand that I find it inapproprate to share telephone numbers and other details on a public forum, although I respect your intent. Besides, I would need permission from Gopal and at this time I would not wish to inundate them with calls. I did mention this piece to him, though, and regret it now.

Chowk-staff:

If you wish this article to become a forum to discuss the `hypocrisy of atheists` who dared to mourn the loss of a colleague and used standard terms, then could you please change the headline to include whether the deceased would like to Rest In Peace or not in the title?

PS: No one is answerable to anyone to hold the views they hold and express sorrow as they choose to do.

Re: # 39

Farzana - Hi. Good to see you around. I concur with your sentiments. Well said!

Regards,
Z

#37 by Zeena

ZeenaJi, I beg your pardon, but what`s the harm in having this discussion right here?

I mean, If Revathy Gopal is in some sort of `peace` as wished upon her by atheists, I`m sure she`ll be quite delighted to find so many people remembering her and wanting her sincerely wished. I would just like to know where her atheist well-wishers want her to remain in peace.

On the other hand if they are lying and just being patronising to conform to some social correctness which is alien to their beliefs; do not mean what they are saying; and in fact their theories are correct, then it really doesn`t matter for Revathy what they`re mouthing to each other for lip service. Or does it?

Besides, Islam forbids mourning the dead and advocates serenity. So I do not find this argument here either immoral or insensitive.

This question is not only directed towards Gill, but to all preaching atheists etc ... They should come out of their little holes and either state their position or forever remain silent.

#36 zeemax sahib

hmmm, interesting and quite intellectual question with all the validity and intellectual honesty.

But, I still don`t wish this article to end up as an arguementative board.

zeemax jii

Can you write an article for FP based on your post #36? I want to start a discussion on this very particular topic with Mr.Gill(the famous atheist). Thanks

#7 by freethinker,

Mr. Gill, you said:

May she rest in peace.

Huh?

Who`re you talking about? Revathy Gopal died. End of the story according to your theory. Are you wishing peace upon fertilizer? Or ashes? Or maggot-feed?

Or, if you`re wishing `peace` upon Revathy Gopal ... where? In which land? What peace?

I`m sorry, but you`re being totally insincere in the memory of a good person by telling lies about which neither she believed nor you do ...

I regard this as the cruellest form of intellectual dishonesty.

Dehendriya manobuddhi ahankara chittani naham
Chidanad rupeya shivoham shivoham

-- Adi Shankar

Deha( body) indriyas ( senses), manh( stream of thoughts that doubt, consider and discard various options) buddhi( stream of thoughts which are decisive), chitta ( stream of thoughts involved in reasoning, analyzing, inquiring and speculating, ahankara (I – the consciousness present in every being) naham (I am not)

I am distinct from the body in which I dwell, from senses through which I perceive, from manah, buddhi and chitta constiting my Mind with which I think and decide, from ahankara which gives me consciousness of myself; I am separate and formless being who is only associated with these entities or I am the soul, or the jiva.

Then who I am? Chit( knowledge) anand ( bliss) shivoham(a brief statement of Shankara’s advait or monoism) I am shiva who is the form of bliss associated with knowledge.

(Commentary by V V Subrahmanyam of Rajahmundry ,Andhra Pradesh)

zeemax#31

Sir zeemax

With all due respect, everyone has their own way of sending condolences for the deceased ones. In my family culture we always send flowers for the family of dceased ones to comfort them , we even put flowers on the graves of our loved ones.

I am sorry, but, your approach is way too, constricted and narrow minded in this matter.
To you your belief, to us ours. Everyone has the equal right to express sorrow in their own ways.

Please, try to be more sensitive about other`s feelings.

PS:- Kindly refrain from making this board as another argumentative board. This board is purley to pay respect to the famous writer of chowk. Thanks

Will miss her.

....excepting Farzana of-course who addressed her post to HER and said ``But just this once why don’t you believe in an afterlife?

... Well Farzana .. you seem sure she`s reading this. Actually, I know she is. So that must be something of an eye opener for her ....

I have been in a quandary since this morning as to how to offer condolences. Though I really want to ....

I mean ... what can I say?

Other people are offering `God Bless her Soul` (?) , `Rest in Peace` (?), Peace and Grace in the eyes of God Almighty` (?); But to whom are they saying that? She is DEAD. She isn`t hearing any of it. She didn`t believe in anything of the silly stuff all are saying. So why`re people saying all this? Are they being condescending? Why?

It doesn`t matter for her anymore. Hers to her belief was just an organism which lived its natural life and came to an end. That`s all. So what`s the big deal in saying all these things to supposedly comfort her? Rather, isn`t that going against her own wishes?

I will say the appropriate thing. She will be missed. That`s all. Don`t even bother with flowers. She won`t see them.