Sheela Jaywant March 8, 2007
#25 Posted by aquaris on March 9, 2007 2:47:10 am
That was SAD.
my condolenses, may her soul rest in peace
#26 Posted by Jamesmaxwell on March 9, 2007 3:48:12 am
I also lost a close member of my family to cancer recently and I can imagine the pain the family is undergoing right now. There are certain things that are beyond our human comprehension and there is no alternative but to accept them.
May God give her family the courage to face this difficult time.
Rest in peace, departed soul.
May God give her family the courage to face this difficult time.
Rest in peace, departed soul.
#27 Posted by Ally on March 9, 2007 4:46:14 am
May she rest in peace, and may God bless her soul.
My heartfelt condolences to her family. May God bless them with courage and strength to carry on.
Ameen.
Ally
xxx
My heartfelt condolences to her family. May God bless them with courage and strength to carry on.
Ameen.
Ally
xxx
#28 Posted by ijaz_gul on March 9, 2007 5:42:28 am
Frazana, could you post Gopal`s Tele Number.
Thanx
Thanx
#29 Posted by KaalChakra on March 9, 2007 9:42:52 am
As a person, Revathy Gopal indeed seemed to be a gem. May she find peace and grace in the eyes of God Almighty.
#31 Posted by zeemax on March 9, 2007 12:12:47 pm
I have been in a quandary since this morning as to how to offer condolences. Though I really want to ....
I mean ... what can I say?
Other people are offering `God Bless her Soul` (?) , `Rest in Peace` (?), Peace and Grace in the eyes of God Almighty` (?); But to whom are they saying that? She is DEAD. She isn`t hearing any of it. She didn`t believe in anything of the silly stuff all are saying. So why`re people saying all this? Are they being condescending? Why?
It doesn`t matter for her anymore. Hers to her belief was just an organism which lived its natural life and came to an end. That`s all. So what`s the big deal in saying all these things to supposedly comfort her? Rather, isn`t that going against her own wishes?
I will say the appropriate thing. She will be missed. That`s all. Don`t even bother with flowers. She won`t see them.
I mean ... what can I say?
Other people are offering `God Bless her Soul` (?) , `Rest in Peace` (?), Peace and Grace in the eyes of God Almighty` (?); But to whom are they saying that? She is DEAD. She isn`t hearing any of it. She didn`t believe in anything of the silly stuff all are saying. So why`re people saying all this? Are they being condescending? Why?
It doesn`t matter for her anymore. Hers to her belief was just an organism which lived its natural life and came to an end. That`s all. So what`s the big deal in saying all these things to supposedly comfort her? Rather, isn`t that going against her own wishes?
I will say the appropriate thing. She will be missed. That`s all. Don`t even bother with flowers. She won`t see them.
#32 Posted by zeemax on March 9, 2007 12:20:07 pm
....excepting Farzana of-course who addressed her post to HER and said ``But just this once why don’t you believe in an afterlife?
... Well Farzana .. you seem sure she`s reading this. Actually, I know she is. So that must be something of an eye opener for her ....
... Well Farzana .. you seem sure she`s reading this. Actually, I know she is. So that must be something of an eye opener for her ....
#34 Posted by Zeena on March 9, 2007 9:04:00 pm
zeemax#31
Sir zeemax
With all due respect, everyone has their own way of sending condolences for the deceased ones. In my family culture we always send flowers for the family of dceased ones to comfort them , we even put flowers on the graves of our loved ones.
I am sorry, but, your approach is way too, constricted and narrow minded in this matter.
To you your belief, to us ours. Everyone has the equal right to express sorrow in their own ways.
Please, try to be more sensitive about other`s feelings.
PS:- Kindly refrain from making this board as another argumentative board. This board is purley to pay respect to the famous writer of chowk. Thanks
Sir zeemax
With all due respect, everyone has their own way of sending condolences for the deceased ones. In my family culture we always send flowers for the family of dceased ones to comfort them , we even put flowers on the graves of our loved ones.
I am sorry, but, your approach is way too, constricted and narrow minded in this matter.
To you your belief, to us ours. Everyone has the equal right to express sorrow in their own ways.
Please, try to be more sensitive about other`s feelings.
PS:- Kindly refrain from making this board as another argumentative board. This board is purley to pay respect to the famous writer of chowk. Thanks
#35 Posted by kalihawa on March 9, 2007 11:49:32 pm
Dehendriya manobuddhi ahankara chittani naham
Chidanad rupeya shivoham shivoham
-- Adi Shankar
Deha( body) indriyas ( senses), manh( stream of thoughts that doubt, consider and discard various options) buddhi( stream of thoughts which are decisive), chitta ( stream of thoughts involved in reasoning, analyzing, inquiring and speculating, ahankara (I – the consciousness present in every being) naham (I am not)
I am distinct from the body in which I dwell, from senses through which I perceive, from manah, buddhi and chitta constiting my Mind with which I think and decide, from ahankara which gives me consciousness of myself; I am separate and formless being who is only associated with these entities or I am the soul, or the jiva.
Then who I am? Chit( knowledge) anand ( bliss) shivoham(a brief statement of Shankara’s advait or monoism) I am shiva who is the form of bliss associated with knowledge.
(Commentary by V V Subrahmanyam of Rajahmundry ,Andhra Pradesh)
#36 Posted by zeemax on March 10, 2007 4:57:49 pm
#7 by freethinker,
Mr. Gill, you said:
May she rest in peace.
Huh?
Who`re you talking about? Revathy Gopal died. End of the story according to your theory. Are you wishing peace upon fertilizer? Or ashes? Or maggot-feed?
Or, if you`re wishing `peace` upon Revathy Gopal ... where? In which land? What peace?
I`m sorry, but you`re being totally insincere in the memory of a good person by telling lies about which neither she believed nor you do ...
I regard this as the cruellest form of intellectual dishonesty.
Mr. Gill, you said:
May she rest in peace.
Huh?
Who`re you talking about? Revathy Gopal died. End of the story according to your theory. Are you wishing peace upon fertilizer? Or ashes? Or maggot-feed?
Or, if you`re wishing `peace` upon Revathy Gopal ... where? In which land? What peace?
I`m sorry, but you`re being totally insincere in the memory of a good person by telling lies about which neither she believed nor you do ...
I regard this as the cruellest form of intellectual dishonesty.
#37 Posted by Zeena on March 10, 2007 10:37:48 pm
#36 zeemax sahib
hmmm, interesting and quite intellectual question with all the validity and intellectual honesty.
But, I still don`t wish this article to end up as an arguementative board.
zeemax jii
Can you write an article for FP based on your post #36? I want to start a discussion on this very particular topic with Mr.Gill(the famous atheist). Thanks
hmmm, interesting and quite intellectual question with all the validity and intellectual honesty.
But, I still don`t wish this article to end up as an arguementative board.
zeemax jii
Can you write an article for FP based on your post #36? I want to start a discussion on this very particular topic with Mr.Gill(the famous atheist). Thanks
#38 Posted by zeemax on March 11, 2007 12:40:26 am
#37 by Zeena
ZeenaJi, I beg your pardon, but what`s the harm in having this discussion right here?
I mean, If Revathy Gopal is in some sort of `peace` as wished upon her by atheists, I`m sure she`ll be quite delighted to find so many people remembering her and wanting her sincerely wished. I would just like to know where her atheist well-wishers want her to remain in peace.
On the other hand if they are lying and just being patronising to conform to some social correctness which is alien to their beliefs; do not mean what they are saying; and in fact their theories are correct, then it really doesn`t matter for Revathy what they`re mouthing to each other for lip service. Or does it?
Besides, Islam forbids mourning the dead and advocates serenity. So I do not find this argument here either immoral or insensitive.
This question is not only directed towards Gill, but to all preaching atheists etc ... They should come out of their little holes and either state their position or forever remain silent.
ZeenaJi, I beg your pardon, but what`s the harm in having this discussion right here?
I mean, If Revathy Gopal is in some sort of `peace` as wished upon her by atheists, I`m sure she`ll be quite delighted to find so many people remembering her and wanting her sincerely wished. I would just like to know where her atheist well-wishers want her to remain in peace.
On the other hand if they are lying and just being patronising to conform to some social correctness which is alien to their beliefs; do not mean what they are saying; and in fact their theories are correct, then it really doesn`t matter for Revathy what they`re mouthing to each other for lip service. Or does it?
Besides, Islam forbids mourning the dead and advocates serenity. So I do not find this argument here either immoral or insensitive.
This question is not only directed towards Gill, but to all preaching atheists etc ... They should come out of their little holes and either state their position or forever remain silent.
#39 Posted by FarzanaVersey on March 11, 2007 1:19:44 am
Ijaz:
I hope you understand that I find it inapproprate to share telephone numbers and other details on a public forum, although I respect your intent. Besides, I would need permission from Gopal and at this time I would not wish to inundate them with calls. I did mention this piece to him, though, and regret it now.
Chowk-staff:
If you wish this article to become a forum to discuss the `hypocrisy of atheists` who dared to mourn the loss of a colleague and used standard terms, then could you please change the headline to include whether the deceased would like to Rest In Peace or not in the title?
PS: No one is answerable to anyone to hold the views they hold and express sorrow as they choose to do.
I hope you understand that I find it inapproprate to share telephone numbers and other details on a public forum, although I respect your intent. Besides, I would need permission from Gopal and at this time I would not wish to inundate them with calls. I did mention this piece to him, though, and regret it now.
Chowk-staff:
If you wish this article to become a forum to discuss the `hypocrisy of atheists` who dared to mourn the loss of a colleague and used standard terms, then could you please change the headline to include whether the deceased would like to Rest In Peace or not in the title?
PS: No one is answerable to anyone to hold the views they hold and express sorrow as they choose to do.
#40 Posted by zeemax on March 11, 2007 1:32:40 am
#39 by FarzanaVersey
FV, I don`t agree with your contention that ``No one is answerable to anyone to hold the views they hold and express sorrow as they choose to do.``
Expression of sorrow if it is a lie loses its validity. It is an insult to the dignity of the dead.
FV, I don`t agree with your contention that ``No one is answerable to anyone to hold the views they hold and express sorrow as they choose to do.``
Expression of sorrow if it is a lie loses its validity. It is an insult to the dignity of the dead.
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