On Zillae Huma Usman

Zeemax (BMH/MMAA) -

I would like to bring a closure to our chit chat. Not everyone loves to carry their religion on their sleeves. That shows height of insecurity and lack of tolerance in my opinion. That`s the key reason for the bad publicity Pakistan receives all over the world. You just need to click on BBC, CNN and various other international channels and you will be pleasantly awakened. Even Chowk did not have intolerance before. People, like you, violate the decorum and the sense of peace in a community which can easily thrive on differences in beliefs and ideas. Hopefully, you are a grown-up man or adult. Just for your information, vulgarity has neither any substance nor standing to make a point except for revealing your own ``inadequacies``. You seem to be blessed in that regard ;)

If you are truly interested in being good to your fellow women (and not being charitable to them since you dislike the said virtue), I suggest you assist your friend in centralizing her scattered thoughts. You can be the typist to put together a nice write-up for Chowk and earn the sawab. After all, for your types, it`s the sawab that counts only ;)

Not that I owe you a clarification, but you should learn to differentiate when a reference is made to highlight the dark mindsets vs. conduct an interview. You, sir, are an idiot par excellence :) I will leave it at that.

There is no need for further exchange.

Polite Wishes.

With the current ongoing fiascos, who can expect the courts to grant justice to anyone. There is no institutional or individual sanctity left.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/16/pakistan.justice/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/19/pakistan.justice.reut/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/19/pakistan.justice/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/16/pakistan.justice.ap/index.html

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Chowk Admin - I will request you to remove the past interacts by Zeena since she has hijacked my board with her irrelevant posts. She is desperate for attention based on all the *philanthropic* work she has done. Please give her a corner on Chowk where she can be put on a pedestal.

Please also give her a dictionary and a thesaurus so that she can choose her own vocabulary and does not steal from others` posts.

Thank you.

Zahra madam #100

Look who started irrelevant discussions on this board? YOU...........

Wawawa.....here you are harrassing me with all your droppings and hissy fits and when I reply , you call it hissy fit.

COOL DOWN, don`t get hyper. Just get hold of yourself. Please, show us some decorum on this board.

This is PERFECT EXAMPLE OF NAPOTISM.

Is the current climate in Pakistan conducive to women in politics?

What if another woman politician suffers the same fate as ZHU did? Shouldn`t the women request proper security if they are to serve the public ? Otherwise, is it even worth it to serve a thankless nation at the expense of one`s life?

I wished the women politicians had shown some camaraderie and support (right or wrong) like the lawyers showed for their CJ.

#95 sattar2 sahib

With all due respect, if, you wish to call your self Muslim. You`re most welcome.

I am NOT an authority for any religion. I am just a humble soul who believes in ,``Live and let live``

But, my understanding for being Muslim is ,`` You have to believe in ONE God(Almighty), which you do(as per your statement) and then you have to firmly believe in Prophet Mohd(PBUH) as the LAST prophet, you have to believe that there will be NO more Prophets coming in future till doomsday``.

Now, if, you believe in the ABOVE statement`s each and every word. Yes, you are Muslim.

But, if, you believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is last prophet or even prophet, then You are NOT Muslim. Simple.

Now tell me do you believe in above or NOT?

If, you take Mirza Ghulam Ahmed as some religious figure for you, you have every right to do so. Or, if MIrza Ahmed is some saint for you, go ahead with your belief.

But, I am simply telling you the straight forward criteria to be Muslim. But, still If you persist who am I to tell you about your personal belief? Thanks

#96 aslam644

Sir,

Trust me what ever I stated is TRUE , NOTHING BUT true. You do not need Billion dollars for these contributions, just you need full time committment and motivation with the honesty of your heart.

My husband, I and some of our friends contribute for all such plans. This month we are arranging for a fund raising dinner for more plans to come.

I am not here to prove my contribution. This is anon web site. If you do not believe my post. Don`t. If you DO, Do.

Take care

#102

Zahra Madam

I believe all the women politicians should show their solidarity on this issue and they should raise their voices for the saftey and for the security of all forefront women.

cheers.

#97, 98, 100, 102 : ZahraJ madam,

For two days I was too occupied somewhere so could not attend Chowk. Now here I come and find you all shattered. In fact, something kept ringing inside me all these days and that was what I see here. I had warned you in my #80 but you did not give any heed to it. When you stumble across such obscurantist, incorrigible, senseless and hopelessly delinquent people this is what invariably happens. I am quite new to Chowk, but could grasp their nature, their capacity to understand, their crafty trickeries and motives, their mischievous rogueries within a span of a few interactions.

Now I am sorry, you have become irrelevant on your own board. Here, I must say one thing in their favour i.e. they did not attack you without warning. Many times they had hinted that they were real butchers.

Samar

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JaharaJ,

See! They have really succeeded in kicking you out from your own house. Now, remember few things :

1) You are not a Masiha or Paigamber to convert others.
2) It is easy to wake up a sleeping person but impossible to wake up a pretending sleeper. (in Urdu : Soeai hueai ko to jagaya ja sakta hai par sone ka bahana karne wale ko aap jaga naheen sakte.)
3) Always try first to find out your own type to talk. If you don`t find any than at least find someone sensible of other type. If you don`t even find some sensible person from the other camp, go to sleep or at least pretend to be sleeping.
4) Never make friends or even talk to loggerheads, mads and devils. They will always land you in Jahannam, like Pak is in today. Incidentally Pak has all three types namely: whole of Muslim world, mullas/talibanis and America whereas you are fortunate to have only two, mads and devils.

Hope to see you again.

Samar

#105
samar1982 sir

WoW! Phew.

Such strong words for others. You know what only one thing for you, stop being CONDESCENDING.

Actually every strong word that you used for others fit for you b/c obviously you`re calling us butchers while fact of the matter is you`re butchering yourself and others by using such careless words . You are exactly repeating the same what Madam Zahra did and I am sure will continue shwoing us her irresponsible online behaviour.

take care

From Dawn,

LAHORE, Pakistan, March 20 (AFP) Ani anti-terrorism court Tuesday sentenced cleric Mohammad Sarwar to death for shooting dead a female minister because she was not wearing a veil, officials said. He was convicted a month after he gunned down at a public meeting Zilla Huma Usman, the social welfare minister for Punjab province, in Gujranwala town. Judge Tariq Iftikhar sentenced Sarwar to death on two counts, one for the murder of Zilla Huma and the other for spreading terrorism by the action, court official Amjad Ali said. Sarwar was also ordered to pay a fine of 200,000 rupees (3,333 dollars), he said. The bearded 40-year-old cleric did not react when the judge read out the sentence. The cleric had told police after the murder on February 20 that he killed Zille Huma because she was not wearing Islamic dress including a veil and that he opposed the involvement of women in politics.

Khurram - Thanks. Once the sentence is actually conducted, please post the update. Often times, the final verdict gets lost among various appeals. And such quick and speedy trials give a false impression to the world that justice was actually granted.

Dear Samar - Thank you for your insightful and poignant thoughts.

#109 by khurram,

Just a small correction. He`s not a `cleric `. He`s a locksmith.

I know you`ve reproduced whatever you`ve read, but this propaganda is wrong. Since you`re a serious interactor, please determine the facts and post a correction.

Regards.

Re #112,

Yes, you are right. This is an error on Dawn`s part.
Let`s see if I can get them to correct it.