On Zillae Huma Usman

Re: # 1 zeemax {``...Were the ... prostitutes he killed ... `bold and confident women in leadership roles`? ...``}

Yes, you better believe they are ... `bold and confident women`... and they may or may not be in leadership roles, though typically many of them are. No jokes. This is in all seriousness.

Over the past 35 years my views about the working girls of Pakistan have undergone a complete change. Having at length interviewed scores of them I firmly conclude that, exceptions aside, in the main, they are a hard working, devoted, loyal, sensitive and sincere lot who lead lives of great personal sacrifice under often dire circumstances for the sake of loved ones. Mostly they are victims of circumstances and carry a lot of personal grief while leading very high risk lives to support orphaned siblings, incapacitated parents or due to other horrendous pressures. I salute them and hold them in high esteem, generally speaking, as a group. I must also add that this is far more than can be said about many (if not most) begumaat from the upper classes who are, exceptions aside, in the main, lazy, self-indulgent, unimaginative, vindictive and more venemous than black widow spiders.

{``...When the deranged psychopath... murdered ... Typical and shallow over-simplification. Blame it all on moulvis. Much ado about nothing...``}

What the murderer did was surely evil and he may simply have been a nut case, nothing more. That is not the problem. The problem would be (and I honestly do not know if it is or is not a problem), if it were the case that some group of people tacitly approved of the act. That would indeed be bad.

I say this because there is this unfortunate folk legend about another psychopathic murderer who, sadly, is celebrated as a hero of sorts in some quarters. There was even a movie made about him in which he was glorified, or at least his murder was glorified. That psychopathic killer has been erroneously been referred to as, both, a Ghazi as well as a Shaheed... A double accolade which is bestowed on very few. But there are several people who, even today, over sixty years later, believe that he was a hero and his murderous act was not a crime but honorable heroism. I am, of course, referring to Ghazi Illum Din Shaheed, who murdered one of the owners of a publishing house because of mistaken identity. He believed his victim to be the author of a book written by an actually Horrible Hindu. The book contained blasphemy against Jesus and Mohammad.

...SR

...attempt to discourage women from assuming leadership roles in Pakistan. Apparently, the assassin had issues with bold and confident women...

This statement is factually incorrect. The assassin in his statement said he wouldn`t have killed her if she had been in purdah. It had nothing to do with leadership roles or bold and confident women or any such thing. Were the four rickshaw riding prostitutes he killed earlier (plus two injured) `bold and confident women in leadership roles`?

Typical and shallow over-simplification. Blame it all on moulvis. Much ado about nothing.

When the deranged psychopathic serial-killer who works as a locksmith (and not a moulvi)murdered his earlier victims, I wonder to what reasons he ascribed those at that time. This time the same psychopath murdered a female politician and ascribed it to lack of purdah.

Does anyone find a psychopathic killer`s statement so truthful and credible as not to be looked into and questioned at all? Over and above common sense and/or sound judgement?

Obvioulsy the author is willing to swallow the entire story as told by a psychopath hook line and sinker, extrapolate it over the society at-large, and use it for misandry.

I have serious doubts that this actually is a case of religious extremism. Within two hours of the shooting the media was being fed with the ``statements`` of the ``killer``. For all intent and purpose it was a political assassination of an important political personality. It seems that the powers that be had already prepared the media case even befor the actual murder had happened. In the current domestic situation when government is allegedly fighting an international war on terrorism, poilce cannot issue ``statements` of the accused to the media on its own - and that with in hours of actual crime. Someone from high up was fingering them to do so. Obviously to make a case against the so called ``religious extremists`` so that they can have more excuse to oppress people of Pakistan.

Personally, I think, Huma was assassinated because of something that she must have done using her political posotion to her opponents. Technically, it is as plausible as a religious extremist taking on a harlot or a serial killer taking on a woman. In all honesty all the education that I have received from holywood and local tv about serial killers, he does not fit the profile of a serial killer either.

ZJ:

Its good to see your appealing stance for the aweful incident. The women role in politics of Pakistan have always been defamed by the socio-religious opportunists to shine their Islamic point of mullah views.

I agree fully with you why the murdered was roaming in masses despite having charges of many murderers and that too of women all of them! Who are the elements supporting him.? This needs a thorough unbiased investigation that who signed his bailed out papers guarranteed his freedom to kill. Who issues him license to kill and then publically portray islamic statements to defend such pathetic acts. Which religious organization brain fed his ignorant sinful mind! Which people did get benefit from his attacking on political women...Each face should be unveiled and told to every Pakistani.

And at this time we mustnt also forget that barrier of torch of light of democracy MNA of Peoples Party Ms. Sherry Rehman is still under unconscious after an unknown lady attacked her with a heavy weapon on her neck and back while she was protesting against elections conspiracies on a truck in karachi. The woman who is a true mentor of democractic struggle in its short history and is learned, wise and patriotic is in trauma after a wretched attack.

We need a thorough investigation of all these cowards who are sabotaging peoples political rights through slave murderes and then shout slogans of Islamization.

Most recently sister in law of BB had a narrow escape from a murderous attempt where she literally ran to save life. The patriotic jialas of Pakistan are giving their lives since establishment of Party`s formation and will keep on defending democracy and none speaks of murders of party workers that are on going in Pakistan cities and even an FIR is not registered.

This has to be taught to each of us that murdering models, sex workers and office working women wont uplift egoisim of Islam. Islam is far more difficult to understand by illiterate people.

Regards,

Nadia_Zehra.

It is valid for anyone to protest and express outrage at the assasination of a promising Pakistani woman politician. Irrespectve of what the psycological analysis of the murderer, the murder is what it is: The violent taking of the life of a woman in a leadership position by a man who stated that he acted because he was opposed to her public role. What is the point of speculating that she would not have been murdered had she be in burqa? Does every woman who does not don a burqa deserve being killed? And are Pakistani men so defensive that they can`t hear and support the condemnation of such a horrible act, and instead allege misandry? The murder reflects an extreme and self-destructive aspect of our society. It reflects the terrible times we live in. There are not too many countries in the world where women get murdered for their career choice or their dress code. We live in one. It`s about time that we faced up to that, and stopped napping on a time-bomb, pretending that its a flowerbed.

#4 by mbatlay

Exactly. That`s all there`s to it. I.e a murder. Don`t try to read too much into it.

#2 ... after all denial is not a river in Egypt.

Many were speechless when they heard about this crime.

Law and Order is one of the biggest obstacles to Pakistan`s progress.

She was a very brave woman.

Ras

It is incredible that in this day and age, somebody could be killed for being a woman in public life or for not wearing hizb! My sympathies to her family members and her supporters!

zeemax sahib

I believe this murder has got nothing to do with Islam or Pakistan. The man was serial killer supported by current Govt.

Serial killers can be found in America/Europe or anywhere in this world.

I do not understand why people are jumping back and forth with this nonsense of blaming Islam and Pakistan? for this murder. Why these people are so much immatured?

Serial killer can be from any religion, country,cast and gender. Why people are so ignorant ?

What if samething happens in India? and serial killer is Hindu. Will you blame religion and India for that?

No, absolutely NOT. In America there had been so many serial killers who happened to be Christians, jews and atheists, but I have never ever heard Americans start blaming religion or America for the murders they committed.

So, my pov is very clear............DON`T BLAME RELIGION OR PAKISTAN for the action of A SERIAL KILLER, blame the man and then the current Govt.

Thanks

Re: # 10

How dare you ask common-sense questions? shame on you for exposing the hypocrisy of our “liberals”. Do you not know that Yasser latif Sabbundani and the ilk are only ALLOWED to protest the death and abduction of clean shaven people; I protest your objectivity and fairness.

Projecting the assassination of a single person, as heinous a crime as it is, as a judgment on the state of affairs of an entire country is a bit oversimplification. But then again, we are living in the age of simplicity whereby ``if you are not with us then you must be against us``. The prophet of simplicity, George Bush (pbuh), is an embodiment of this simplicity whereby he limits his conversation to using monosyllables.

Now, of course I condemn the death of this obviously accomplished lady and I am glad to see an article in this regard. However, in that same country thousands of people have been killed in aerial bombardment and other operations by government forces and hundreds more have been kidnapped without any trace in just the last few years. Just 3 months ago, 80 innocent children died in a madrassah when missiles rained down on them in the early hours of a morning. What crime did those kids commit to have suffered that brutal death? Why did that massacre not shake the conscience of our elite as much as the assassination of this one woman has? Were those children not human enough? Are their mothers who are left to mourn for the rest of their lives not women enough? Why is the death of this woman by a crazed person more important than the deaths of hundreds of women in NWFP by ``enlightened moderates``?

When you do not respect the life of ALL humans, you lose the right to your safety as well. When you consider the life of a 2 year old in NWFP expendable in the name of progress, then you open yourself for targeted assassination in Islamabad in the name of a different interpretation of progress. When you are cheerleader for the law of jungle on one people, then you should not complain when your own sense of safety is breached.

It really is a jungle out there. May the deserving people win. Good luck to everyone!

#10
atif jii

Very well said!
I feel proud to have a soul among us with alive conscience. Bravo!

Even though it is hard for me to indulge in reasonable dialogue with idiots without `testosterone` as this interactor is often accused of, I would like to ask one question in the interest of `reason`:

Is it reasonable to cry hoarse over the murder by a deranged person of a `bold and confident woman in leadership role` by these aana type pseudos, while at the same time condemning the `bold and confident women in leadership roles` of Jamia Hafsa right now battling the entire establishment while staked out under siege for sake of democracy?

Is it really a protest against persecution of `bold and confident women in leadership roles` or is it really a rant against Islam and trying to defame it using any lies which turn out to be handy?

(anyone who does not know the demands of the Jamia Hafsa women need not bother).

Borrowing this board:

The article ``Pakistan Shining-I: Propaganda or Reality `` has been deleted from FP. Is Chowk under censorship because the CJ issue was being discussed on that board?

Re #14 zeemax
[[Is it really a protest against persecution of `bold and confident women in leadership roles` or is it really a rant against Islam and trying to defame it using any lies which turn out to be handy?]]

Well said!

Yes, these pseudo maniacs have made this particular case against religion b/c it is a fashion now-a-days to blame everything on religion and on Pakistan.

I am very much against Mullahs and that`s the biggest fact, but, at the end to blame religion for everything on this mother earth is obviously very disturbing fact which shows a biased and organized hatred towards a religion and ofcourse a country.

Besides Mullahs are NOT Muslims or even near to Islam, that`s clear for even a two years old kid.

In the era of today`s globalization with exploding diversity, the question to ponder is do we really need to blame everything on religion? or to blame it on our deepest differences?

In this particular case as I already have mentioned in my earlier post#9 we should blame it on the mental condition and serial killer psyche of the killer and ofcourse on the Mushy`s Govt. which clearly is unable to give the equal protection rights to all the Pakistani citizens.

Mushy`s security is @ the heig alert whenever his royal highness`s procession proceeds even for few yards, why they failed to provide the same security for this lady minister?

And on top of everything, why this serial killer with well known police record was set free roaming around skeet shooting(in this case poor women)?

And now all these people as usual blaming everything else on religion and Pakistan.......wawawawa! very valid blame game.