Raiwind IX

very right,
Every year raiwind recruit many `muslims` all over the word, most of them get connected in the `circle` and very few could escape leaving the question marks.
Its really sad that even famous people who have so many advisers get trapped and dont learn from many available examples.

I fully agree with the article for the reason that this born again attitude has nurtured nepotism. This contrition came to fore immediately after the Justice Qayyum Report on match fixing in which Inzi, Saeed, Saqlain and Mushtaq were all involved.

There were also references to Yousaf who was let off the hook for being poor and ambassador of the minorities. A relentless blitz had been launched to convert him on the team`s journey to Morocco where he finally lost his cool and disobeyed Waqar. The chairman PCB then had to confront these blokes on their practice of match fixing and pressurising Yousaf to convert, two simaltaneous but diabolically opposed facts.

Saeed Anwar`s brother appears a pointsman in this change, often seen in the dressing rooms and PCB Academies.

I know I may draw flak from S...s and Z.....but these are facts.

Cheerios

Rana Naveed grows a beard and is brought into the team despite a pathetic show. Shabbir grows a beard and is taken to South Africa despite being unfit. Danish Kaneria is controversially kept out of the test team in South Africa despite a great show.

Is this Islam? Does Islam teach us to be unfair to others and not judge people on merit but their religious beliefs?

Great insight and a nice read but a tad depressing. Maybe Inzi needs to retire and spend his retired life dedicated to tableegh. This might bring some sanity into the working of the Pakistani cricket team. The Pakistani public needs a team that does not let them down and which does not lose miserably without any fight. Whether these cricketers pray five times a day or stick to the tenets of Islam is not the concern of this cricket mad public and is best left as a matter between these individuals and God.

More depressing is the fact that this influence will be very hard now to get ridd of. In order to do that, after world cup, Inzi should be forcibly retired, and people like Saeed Anwar, Mushi, and Inzi should be told not to visit the Pakistani team. Also, every other player should be told in no uncertain terms that any kind of pressure by them on any other player will not be tolerated. it has been unfortunate that people have been getting away with anything in the name of religion in Pakistan. This kind of attitude will never be tolerated in any other country including India but it goes on in pakistan. I guess PCB is scared of the religious factor but they should finally put their foot down and tell these idiots (inzi included) to get away from the Pakistani Cricket camp. Sports and religion should be far apart. People should be allowed to pray (or not pray) because it is between them and God. Inzi is nothing but a moron to think otherwise. These tablighi jamaat walas haveto be stopped specially in Cricket, otherwise the game will be destroyed to no end as we have witnessed in thee past 1-3 years since Inzi took over. people might disagree and say that they have been winnin gbut when you look closer you will know that Pakistan has not done well outside against countries where pitches are different.

I`ve read some pretty bad articles on Chowk but this one takes the mick. For God`s sake is your hatred of Islam so much that you are denying the Pakistani cricketers the choice to follow their religion how they see fit? I`m not the world`s biggest fan of TJ but if that`s what they want so be it. Frankly their personal lives should have nothing to do with it.

After Miandad, or possibly even including him, Inzi is easily our greatest batsman. His performances on the pitch and his stats speak for themselves. Would Mr. Paracha be moaning if they all became secularists or atheists and joined the Agnostics Association?

For God`s sake they are paid to play cricket and they do that. Saeed Anwar was the best opener of the 90s and one of the greatest ODI players ever--so what if he grew a beard?

There is no evidence to back any of the allegations you`ve made except hearsay and gossip. Do you really think Yusuf Youhanna would make such a life-changing situation as converting to another faith out of fear of losing his place?!

I don`t care what the cricketers do in their private lives or how they dress or look as long as they perform. When Mr. Woolmer has no problems with it why do you? Or are you embarassed that your team in represented by guys who mention Allah in interviews?

As for Shoaib, perhaps if he didn`t take drugs-- as well as not breaking down every other game--he`d still be in the team.

Re: # 4

Hasanmahmood,

Islam (any religion, basically) has been an incredibly convenient fig-leaf for many
dysfunctions. Anyone in the PCB with any amount of testicular fortitude should
read the riot-act to Inzi, distribute shaving kits to the willing players and restore sanity
in the team.

Perhaps the Indian team should start praying too - 6 doing Hindu rituals, 1 with a
Granth Sahib, and 4 Namaazis. Slow over-rate will take on a new meaning.

Naqshbandi #5,

Nobody has a problem with Inzi praying 15 times a day. The problem rises with his coercive habits (and there is enough circumstantial evidence for that). It would be
equally bad if he had asked team members to denounce their religion. Why is that so
difficult to appreciate ? Inzi is a true modern-day great, battingwise. However, he
doesn`t come across as a smart leader in any way, sense or form.

By the way, would you be okay with Kaneria trying to convert team members to
Hinduism, or an erstwhile Youhana proselytizing ? Or for that matter, a Michael
Vaughn treating Mahmood and Panesar as step-members of the team ?

Ganja smokin 1- Islami Cricket 0

Nuff said

The analysis that Pakistan won the world-cup in 1992 because they were all bunch of atheists back then and the reason they have lost it since is because they have found Islam, sounds about right. I think england’s dismal performance can be traced back to their affinity to tableeghi jamaat as well, wait isn’t mushtaq ahmed still playin county? Ahaaa..now it all make sense. Good job Mr. Paratha you nailed it on the head. You are also dead on about inzi slipping drugs in shobi’s paratha, I think inzi also cuts open his thighs and messes with his pathas and his groins. its all a big conspiracy against shoaib because he missed a namaz. My only question is that you should be working for NASA, why are you wasting your obviously superior intellect on chowk. What a waste!

Ijaz_Gully,

So you agree with Paracha ehh? What a surprise, a bitter hateful bhangi from Pakistan who is still pissed of at yousuf for converting some how aggress with the stupid notion that Islam is the reason for the downfall of Pakistan cricket? (is it really a downfall, I thought we were number 3 in the world)

Plats,

Say what? Kaneria tryin to convert to Hinduism? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…u r joking aren’t u? Have you ever seen a sane human being converting to Hinduism?

Re: # 8

Abu-safwaan,

1) If I was as intellectually sound as you are, I would congratulate you first on borrowing a
third-rate Arab moniker and your attempt at racial kinship. But I shall desist, because it
would be considered bad taste.

2) Now, parsing101 - please take another look at Ijaz-Gul`s post and explain to us
dimwitted souls where the performance of the cricket team has been linked to Islam.

3) Try and comprehend that the article is about freedom of religious choice and practice.
Even if Pakistan had Federer-like performances, this behaviour wouldn`t be justified.

4) I have not seen any sane human being suspend his/her disbelief and buy into any
mythology (Hinduism/Islam/Christianity/....), but let`s leave that out this.

What I find amazing is that why are people so amazed about such stuff? If the whole country is going to dogs, shouldn’t the sports have their fair share. No? We have a nation of the thugs, by the thugs, for the thugs. When we have Dakoos running the country, should we worry about the beards of the cricketers? It is like Jews at the concentration camps worrying about the price of skiing gear.

Anyway, it is a nice distraction from the usual crap. If Basant can’t be had, cricket can go to hell.

Re: # 8

Well actually converts to Hinduism, and Buddhism tend to come from more educated, intelligent backgrounds. Muslims converts either happen in jail or end up in jail. At least in the West.

I think the fact that your fellow believers are required to kill you if you ever leave Islam has to do with who stays. Guess its what makes Islam so ``special``. But since it is a divine injunction we shouldn`t question it. An arab once remarked that the beauty of Islam is that you don`t have to think, every aspect of life is instructed. I guess you follow this to a tee.

I think NFP has lost it. I knew that being a critic makes you a cynic but now he has started ranting against the easy targets.

I mean if you want to rant against something, why not do it against former chief justice. How could he ban Basant? Why didnot he find anything wrong in the second Hasba bill except for minor events.

How about that we want to establish the writ of government in baluchistan and waziristan but we cowed down to AK-47 weilding burqa clad girls in the heart of Pakistan i.e. Islamabad. Get a Life MAN

NFP! I think there is much more to the world than the cricket team. They are going down and might take religion with them too. What about hockey? Nobody is holding them back. Rather they wear the unislamic shorts. Why aren`t they performing well.

More than hamstrings and prayers, shoaib has to control his doping and drinking. Chill out man.

Re: # 11

Yes Yes ..in order to accept monkeys, elphants and cow dung as GOD, you must have an IQ of 200, after all this is twilight zone.

happy days

.......... if, inspite of all this facial hair and communal banging of heads on the ground five times a day, the pakistani team looses, does it mean that islam is not a true religion and al-lah is a lesser god compared to hanuman, jesus and haile selassie ?

...... maybe that is the silver lining in this dark cloud - the team gets its sajda raised butt whopped and the pakis loose faith in al-lah mian, convert to rastafarianism and start smoking ganja to get to heaven .......... happy days are coming !

Re: # 14

Are your daughters still enjoying ``Ice Cream`` with random boys in the car or have they moved on to BIGGER and better things?

Sufyan I know where you come from and knew that you would. Ironically you chose a multi nick whose dynasty ruined the Islamic concept of a State. No womder you use words that u do.