Raiwind IX

very right,
Every year raiwind recruit many `muslims` all over the word, most of them get connected in the `circle` and very few could escape leaving the question marks.
Its really sad that even famous people who have so many advisers get trapped and dont learn from many available examples.

I fully agree with the article for the reason that this born again attitude has nurtured nepotism. This contrition came to fore immediately after the Justice Qayyum Report on match fixing in which Inzi, Saeed, Saqlain and Mushtaq were all involved.

There were also references to Yousaf who was let off the hook for being poor and ambassador of the minorities. A relentless blitz had been launched to convert him on the team`s journey to Morocco where he finally lost his cool and disobeyed Waqar. The chairman PCB then had to confront these blokes on their practice of match fixing and pressurising Yousaf to convert, two simaltaneous but diabolically opposed facts.

Saeed Anwar`s brother appears a pointsman in this change, often seen in the dressing rooms and PCB Academies.

I know I may draw flak from S...s and Z.....but these are facts.

Cheerios

Rana Naveed grows a beard and is brought into the team despite a pathetic show. Shabbir grows a beard and is taken to South Africa despite being unfit. Danish Kaneria is controversially kept out of the test team in South Africa despite a great show.

Is this Islam? Does Islam teach us to be unfair to others and not judge people on merit but their religious beliefs?

Great insight and a nice read but a tad depressing. Maybe Inzi needs to retire and spend his retired life dedicated to tableegh. This might bring some sanity into the working of the Pakistani cricket team. The Pakistani public needs a team that does not let them down and which does not lose miserably without any fight. Whether these cricketers pray five times a day or stick to the tenets of Islam is not the concern of this cricket mad public and is best left as a matter between these individuals and God.

Re: # 4

Hasanmahmood,

Islam (any religion, basically) has been an incredibly convenient fig-leaf for many
dysfunctions. Anyone in the PCB with any amount of testicular fortitude should
read the riot-act to Inzi, distribute shaving kits to the willing players and restore sanity
in the team.

Perhaps the Indian team should start praying too - 6 doing Hindu rituals, 1 with a
Granth Sahib, and 4 Namaazis. Slow over-rate will take on a new meaning.

Naqshbandi #5,

Nobody has a problem with Inzi praying 15 times a day. The problem rises with his coercive habits (and there is enough circumstantial evidence for that). It would be
equally bad if he had asked team members to denounce their religion. Why is that so
difficult to appreciate ? Inzi is a true modern-day great, battingwise. However, he
doesn`t come across as a smart leader in any way, sense or form.

By the way, would you be okay with Kaneria trying to convert team members to
Hinduism, or an erstwhile Youhana proselytizing ? Or for that matter, a Michael
Vaughn treating Mahmood and Panesar as step-members of the team ?

More depressing is the fact that this influence will be very hard now to get ridd of. In order to do that, after world cup, Inzi should be forcibly retired, and people like Saeed Anwar, Mushi, and Inzi should be told not to visit the Pakistani team. Also, every other player should be told in no uncertain terms that any kind of pressure by them on any other player will not be tolerated. it has been unfortunate that people have been getting away with anything in the name of religion in Pakistan. This kind of attitude will never be tolerated in any other country including India but it goes on in pakistan. I guess PCB is scared of the religious factor but they should finally put their foot down and tell these idiots (inzi included) to get away from the Pakistani Cricket camp. Sports and religion should be far apart. People should be allowed to pray (or not pray) because it is between them and God. Inzi is nothing but a moron to think otherwise. These tablighi jamaat walas haveto be stopped specially in Cricket, otherwise the game will be destroyed to no end as we have witnessed in thee past 1-3 years since Inzi took over. people might disagree and say that they have been winnin gbut when you look closer you will know that Pakistan has not done well outside against countries where pitches are different.

I`ve read some pretty bad articles on Chowk but this one takes the mick. For God`s sake is your hatred of Islam so much that you are denying the Pakistani cricketers the choice to follow their religion how they see fit? I`m not the world`s biggest fan of TJ but if that`s what they want so be it. Frankly their personal lives should have nothing to do with it.

After Miandad, or possibly even including him, Inzi is easily our greatest batsman. His performances on the pitch and his stats speak for themselves. Would Mr. Paracha be moaning if they all became secularists or atheists and joined the Agnostics Association?

For God`s sake they are paid to play cricket and they do that. Saeed Anwar was the best opener of the 90s and one of the greatest ODI players ever--so what if he grew a beard?

There is no evidence to back any of the allegations you`ve made except hearsay and gossip. Do you really think Yusuf Youhanna would make such a life-changing situation as converting to another faith out of fear of losing his place?!

I don`t care what the cricketers do in their private lives or how they dress or look as long as they perform. When Mr. Woolmer has no problems with it why do you? Or are you embarassed that your team in represented by guys who mention Allah in interviews?

As for Shoaib, perhaps if he didn`t take drugs-- as well as not breaking down every other game--he`d still be in the team.

Ganja smokin 1- Islami Cricket 0

Nuff said

Re: # 8

Abu-safwaan,

1) If I was as intellectually sound as you are, I would congratulate you first on borrowing a
third-rate Arab moniker and your attempt at racial kinship. But I shall desist, because it
would be considered bad taste.

2) Now, parsing101 - please take another look at Ijaz-Gul`s post and explain to us
dimwitted souls where the performance of the cricket team has been linked to Islam.

3) Try and comprehend that the article is about freedom of religious choice and practice.
Even if Pakistan had Federer-like performances, this behaviour wouldn`t be justified.

4) I have not seen any sane human being suspend his/her disbelief and buy into any
mythology (Hinduism/Islam/Christianity/....), but let`s leave that out this.

Re: # 20
Uh, yeah like what ever. Last I heard Europeans, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese don`t marry their relatives generation after generation. Leads to retardation. Ok that`s an extreme statement but it does have a deleterious impact. A colleague of mine is a pathologist and Saudi Arabia is a goldmine for research puposes because the same families marry one another. I don`t think you have to be an Einstein to realize that if you marry first cousins after three generation its like a brother and sister marrying. The ancient Egyptians practised such degrees of intermarriage. A lot of Muslim physician recognize this is a serious issue but it is a loaded one and difficult to broach.

Many immigrants from varying backgrounds, have strong family values with an emphasis on education and want their children not to fall into Western excesses. As a physician I have never seen an Indian, Korean or Chinese single mom. But yes have been consulted on ``consanguinity`` cases and yes you guessed it the only group that has a penchant for marrying their relatives are Muslims. the reason for the consult is the higher rate of all sort of genetic problems. There has not been a study on intellectual development or learning disabilities as of yet. Typically the lagging performance is blamed entirely on racism but Chinese were bonded laborers, had to pay special taxes just to live, were barred from white establishments but their descendents do much better I be than the Muslim immigrants in Europe even though they start out in the same place.

Re: # 17 - Indians prefer going OPEN RELATIONSHIPS. Nothing formal but only a one night stand.
How justifiable.

Re: # 21 :D :D

Re: # 25
Yes. That`s it anyone who makes an statement that the educated and rational human beings tend to bow down to monkeys, elephants and wash themselves in cow urine, my immediate reaction about them are that they must be rational.

Re: # 21

Thanks for proving my theory. Your inabilty to provide a cogent intelligent response is emblematic of the problem.

Why did you assume I was a Hindu? Because I sound rational?

Re: # 17

After all the education and IT plaza and Infosys`s, you`ll still be ugly as a fcuk, you still would have to burn your mother alive with ur dead father, u still would have to stick ur hand in cows ass to get some holy water so u can purify urself, you still will never ever be able to enjoy the heaven that is bihari kabab, u still will be bitter at Muslims because they rode ur asses for 800 years even though u were a huge majority cause u cant go back at draw balls on ur forefathers, and no matter what happens, whether pakistan has democracy or not whether they are educated or not, they will always always look you directly in your eyes while u pee in ur pants, ur numbers, ur technological superiority, ur planes, ur bombs means shit till you start growing balls and that aint gonna happen till u start eating the gaoo mata that u insist on worshipin rather than roasting.

Re: # 39
percentage of school kids achieving 5 and above good GCSE results

Re: # 38

Aslam,

What are we looking at here ?