Raiwind IX

Re: # 42

aslam main,

....... that is not bad considering all the consanguinity - think what they could do if they married someone other than their first cousin !

Re: # 65
you do have some good points, but tend to generalise a bit, chris patten went to india to entice students for oxford that`s because uk earns millions in fees, that`s why they have built brit university campuses in malaysia and the gulf.

Re: # 42

You don`t seem to understand. The indepth report attempted to compare groups by matching families by socioeconomic factors and the educational background of parents and even then Indians did much better than other groups. In fact Indian Muslims ranked higher than Pakistanis or Bangladeshis. It is a topic of curiosity among Britishers themselves as I was asked by a visiting professor at MIT why this was the case. What I am trying to communicate is that the daughter of a Gujerati tailor who is Hindu will do much better academically than a daughter of a tailor who is Paksitani/ Bangladeshi. I will find try to find the report (it is online) and post it. The most underperforming group is actually Pakistani boys. This is not somehting I find amusing or am gloating about. It is distressing. Similar trends are occuring in Canada. Also when you consider there is something like 1.5 Billion Muslims in the world it has not gone unnoticed that in the most intellectually rigorous fields they are sorely underrepresented. Take cryptography for instance I have a cousin doing his Phd at a top institiute. Who dominates the field? Jews, Chinese, Indians and Europeans (far fewer Americans). You can look up top research labs across the world and the same holds true.

A renowned Swedish scientist remarked privately that the two groups you will rarley come across doing cutting edge research are Arabs and Blacks. Much to do has been made about the Golden Age of Islam but if you scratch beneath the surface you will realize the the Arabs for the large part incubated knowledge from Persians, Indians etc... and transmitted it to Europe. In fact the original translator give generous due to original sources. The latest UN report about the Arab world is a damning one, its the only place where literacy is decreasing! There is not culture of reading and intellectual inquisitiveness. I am talking about countries that have billions of dollars of oil wealth. But the question is why have they failed to produce students that are vied for across the world? I mean the head of Oxford Chris Patten is traveling to India to entice students to study at Oxford and he publicly stated he has to in order to compete with like of Harvard, Stanford etc...Can you honestly imagine him or anyone doing the same for Muslim students? It amuses me to no end the wholesale derision some Pakistanis have for Indic culture while having reverence for Arabic culture. Funny no one else in the world shares that tendency. That includes btw Chinese and Japanese.

Re: # conti
class does matter

People in employment in managerial or professional occupations: by ethnic group, 2004, GB

Re: # 17


as you can see from above table pakistanis and bangladeshis are closing the gap

Re: # 13

What an insighful summary of the Vedas, Upanishads and Gita. But hey you are no Shopenhauer (Do you even know who he is?). Are your parents cousins? That would explain a lot. I mean the British health minister had to ask the Paksitani community to stop marrying their own relative as the have the highest incidence of recessive genetic diseases. Also it would be part of why in the recent education report while Indian rank far higher than white Pakistani/Bangladeshis rank near the bottom. This even holds true after controlling for socioeconomic status and parental education. Similar patterns exist in Canada and the States.

Re: # 11

Yes Yes ..in order to accept monkeys, elphants and cow dung as GOD, you must have an IQ of 200, after all this is twilight zone.

Re: # 8

Well actually converts to Hinduism, and Buddhism tend to come from more educated, intelligent backgrounds. Muslims converts either happen in jail or end up in jail. At least in the West.

I think the fact that your fellow believers are required to kill you if you ever leave Islam has to do with who stays. Guess its what makes Islam so ``special``. But since it is a divine injunction we shouldn`t question it. An arab once remarked that the beauty of Islam is that you don`t have to think, every aspect of life is instructed. I guess you follow this to a tee.

The analysis that Pakistan won the world-cup in 1992 because they were all bunch of atheists back then and the reason they have lost it since is because they have found Islam, sounds about right. I think england’s dismal performance can be traced back to their affinity to tableeghi jamaat as well, wait isn’t mushtaq ahmed still playin county? Ahaaa..now it all make sense. Good job Mr. Paratha you nailed it on the head. You are also dead on about inzi slipping drugs in shobi’s paratha, I think inzi also cuts open his thighs and messes with his pathas and his groins. its all a big conspiracy against shoaib because he missed a namaz. My only question is that you should be working for NASA, why are you wasting your obviously superior intellect on chowk. What a waste!

Ijaz_Gully,

So you agree with Paracha ehh? What a surprise, a bitter hateful bhangi from Pakistan who is still pissed of at yousuf for converting some how aggress with the stupid notion that Islam is the reason for the downfall of Pakistan cricket? (is it really a downfall, I thought we were number 3 in the world)

Plats,

Say what? Kaneria tryin to convert to Hinduism? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…u r joking aren’t u? Have you ever seen a sane human being converting to Hinduism?

What I find amazing is that why are people so amazed about such stuff? If the whole country is going to dogs, shouldn’t the sports have their fair share. No? We have a nation of the thugs, by the thugs, for the thugs. When we have Dakoos running the country, should we worry about the beards of the cricketers? It is like Jews at the concentration camps worrying about the price of skiing gear.

Anyway, it is a nice distraction from the usual crap. If Basant can’t be had, cricket can go to hell.

I think NFP has lost it. I knew that being a critic makes you a cynic but now he has started ranting against the easy targets.

I mean if you want to rant against something, why not do it against former chief justice. How could he ban Basant? Why didnot he find anything wrong in the second Hasba bill except for minor events.

How about that we want to establish the writ of government in baluchistan and waziristan but we cowed down to AK-47 weilding burqa clad girls in the heart of Pakistan i.e. Islamabad. Get a Life MAN

NFP! I think there is much more to the world than the cricket team. They are going down and might take religion with them too. What about hockey? Nobody is holding them back. Rather they wear the unislamic shorts. Why aren`t they performing well.

More than hamstrings and prayers, shoaib has to control his doping and drinking. Chill out man.

Re: # 14

Are your daughters still enjoying ``Ice Cream`` with random boys in the car or have they moved on to BIGGER and better things?

happy days

.......... if, inspite of all this facial hair and communal banging of heads on the ground five times a day, the pakistani team looses, does it mean that islam is not a true religion and al-lah is a lesser god compared to hanuman, jesus and haile selassie ?

...... maybe that is the silver lining in this dark cloud - the team gets its sajda raised butt whopped and the pakis loose faith in al-lah mian, convert to rastafarianism and start smoking ganja to get to heaven .......... happy days are coming !

Re: # 16

Oh so we are saddened now by the failure of Islam`s rise? How very noble of you. As jack says ``Go sell crazy somehwre else``. For the millionth time there is a difference between Safwaan and Suffyan, i know it comes as a surprise but instead of making conversation around my Handle, your time might be better spent reanalyzing your utmost hate and prejudice for everything Islamic. Not that it really matters in bigger scheme of things because you are inconsequential but your personal life might be a lil more joyous if let go of this bigotry.

Sufyan I know where you come from and knew that you would. Ironically you chose a multi nick whose dynasty ruined the Islamic concept of a State. No womder you use words that u do.

Re: # 19 - And if Inzi was so much authoritative, an easy revolt agent(s) could have been found out (bikaao maal) and PCB would have initiated Inzi`s premature exit.

Logical again?

But from the onset, majority of the teams seems to be voting out of the so-thought and presumed garb-of-fear for Inzimam.

Rest is just flukes, yellow journalism, rumours, and Multiple Personality Disorders.