Justice, Judiciary and Journalist

now listen to this latest from Musharraf -- he is backing down -- says Chaudry is still the CJ -- the coward now blames Shaukat Aziz for the firing.!!


ISLAMABAD: President Gen Pervez Musharraf has said the “manhandling” of suspended Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry by security personnel and police was an “unfortunate incident”.

The president said this at a meeting on Wednesday night at which all aspects of the judicial crisis following the chief justice’s suspension were reviewed, a federal minister told Online on condition of anonymity on Thursday.

The president expressed disappointment at the manhandling of the chief justice while he was being taken to the Supreme Court building on Tuesday, the sources said.

He said the incident had bought shame to Pakistan and that Justice Chaudhry must be treated with respect and honour, as he is still chief justice of Pakistan.

He added that he had not issued any directives to withdraw the chief justice’s privileges. He said there was no ban on meeting the chief justice.

Gen Musharraf said that he took the decision to file a reference against the chief justice on the advice of the prime minister and now it was up to the Supreme Judicial Council to decide the case.

The government would not interfere in this matter, he said, according to the sources.(Daily Times)


Uzre Gunah budtur uz Gunah....The `incident` has not brought shame on Pakistan -- Musharraf has brought shame on Pakistan. Iss sadgee peh kaun nu mur jai ai khoda...

yes Omair u may be right -- looks like the Pirzada did it -- his refusal to defend Musharraf pull the rug under Musharraf`s arrogance -- yet the deluded man thinks he is above the `incident`....!

Re: # 40

bulleya;

I meant ... can something be done about the internet access. In any case, if it is just the lawyers and the media then nothing much is going to come from it. Some patching up here and there and that will be about it. If the disgruntled army faction gets in or/and the MMA leadership gets in things may turn worse. But IF the unwashed masses get excited and brush aside leaders and simply air THEIR views then irrespective of whether Musharaf survives or not, only good can happen.

These foolish liars in black and white, who are marching up and down, throwing bricks, and giving stupid and illogical interviews to foreign news services (I am talking about Mr. Paracha :) ) are paving the path to their own destruction. They are accelerating the rise of the Paki Tally Ban and MMA. Then, one day we will see them shouting, marching, throwing bricks against having to grow a long beard in only two weeks.

Re: # 43

Chauhan sahib:

Our own manto is marching there in black and white ... his statement in BBC was far from stupid. But yes, one does hope that the protest is not hijacked by the MMA leadership. On the other hand if it is hijacked by the unwashed masses then great.

GT Sahib,
Mushy is just a puppet and a facade for the Paki Punju Paindoo feudal.military establishment. MMA is waiting in the wings. Mohajirs are fed up with all of them. What the lawyers in black and white are doing is the sudden softening of the liberal cause. While Mohajirs and liberal Paki Punju Paindoos fight, the die-hard sworn TallyBan among the Wana Wana NWFP Lallas and Paki Punju Paindoos (like Urstruly, Atif2, and Ali1) will take over the land. Then, no one will be able to watch Shipa Shetty strut her stuff in the Land of the Pure. :)

#40 by bulleya on March 16, 2007 10:29am PT


Sure beats a 9-5 job


The last time you said that was in the days after 9/11 when you were dying to quit your job and join the american attack on afghanistan....t-shirt with paki flag and all..how times change..now you`ve gone from the US to canickistan to pakiland....

Folks,
Nothing new here. It`s the age-old Paki Punju Paindoos vs the rest of Pakistan fight.

Paki Punjus vs Bengalis 1971
Paki Punjus vs Sindhis 1979
Paki Punjus vs Mohajirs 1990 - 1996
Paki Punjus vs Kashmiris - 1948- 2007
Paki Punjus vs Baluchi 1974, 2006
Paki Punjus vs Pathans 2005, 2006, ...

#41 by nasah

The son of a bi**h is lying. Shaukat Aziz is no more than his lapdog who doesn`t even go to piss without this b`tards permission.

Salim_Chauhan,

Are you ok? You seem to be under some sort of stress. Is it domestic? Or something else?

Zeemax,

You are right. I am getting tired of having to type Paki Punju Paindoo over and over again. In the future I will use the acronym of PPP - regardless of the fact that it refers to another set of mindless, violent, and cruel thugs who have a record of looting our beloved land.

BTW, have you heard from your long-lost PPP friend, Urstruly? He was caught red-handed spreading malicious lies about the First Lady of Pakistan

On a personal note, thanks for asking about me. My family and I are fine - just concerned a bit over the upcomiing wholesale massacre looming over Karachi as the PPPs get all excited with unholy firewater.

GaaoN ma aag lagat he, aur susrey punjaibi buRhyaaN kahat hen ke koi humrey kanghan nahin dekhat he.

Today, the swarthy swarms of PPPs are marching, screaming, shouting, and throwing bricks against Mushy. Tomorrow these qismat ke maray haramzaaday will be marching, screaming, shouting, and throwing bricks at Ameer-ul-Momineen Hajrat Fajlur Rehman against having only two weeks to grow a foot long beard. :)

#various Nasah

Nasah sahib, you have seen this pattern too often to fall for it all over again.

At least your mind will not fall for it...as far as the heart is concerned...

Woh to dil ka maamla hai! Pointless to address.

The reality is that it is the same sequence every time, somebody pretends to become the savior of the land, to solve all its ills by ousting whoever is the current ruler. They never do anything real even if they can grab power - mian Mushy did the same routine in his own time.

Mushy is faulty in some ways - especially in his belief that any genuine opposition must be suppressed and he will brook no challenge to his own rule while mouthing ``real`` democracy. Other than that, he has few serious faults - he certainly could have been much worse.

Getting rid of the Mushy will not rescue Pakistan - Mushy is more a symptom of the malaise - not its cause.

Without trivializing individual sacrifices (no, mouthing stuff on chowk is not to be considered a sacrifice - but getting beaten up with sticks indeed is) let`s get serious.

A country`s rescue comes from working on the ground and building upwards - not from street rabble-rousing by a bunch of penguin-like-dressees!

Now it`s all becoming clear. The Paki Mahapunju ex-PM is calling the shots via remote control and the PPPs are all responding:

Nawaz backs protests

By Our Special Correspondent

LONDON, March 15: Former prime minister Nawaz Sharif has appealed to the nation to participate in protests being held across Pakistan on Friday. In a statement issued here on Thursday, the PML-N chief said that the time had come for the people to ensure that those who dared to subjugate the judiciary were held accountable.

Mr Sharif said that after destroying the constitution and subjugating parliament, Gen Musharraf had now launched an attack on the institution responsible for providing justice to the people.

He said that the action against the chief justice had proven that the general was capable of going to any length in violating the tenets of law, civilised norms and morality to safeguard his “unconstitutional, illegal, undemocratic and immoral rule”.

The PML-N leader appealed to the youth, intellectuals, traders, labourers, students, elders and other sections of society to join lawyers in their protest to rid the country of those who had put the very existence of the country at risk.

Mr Sharif pledged to stand shoulder to shoulder with the people in this struggle and to render every sacrifice required.

Courtesy - Dawn March 16, 2007 Friday Safar 26, 1428

Reaction in Sindh - obviously there are far more important matters than misbehaving and terrorist lawyers. The treasonous liars are getting no sympathy other than in Poonzab.


SHIKARPUR: CM threatens to dissolve Sindh Assembly

By Our Correspondent

SHIKARPUR, March 15: Sindh Chief Minister Dr Arbab Ghulam Rahim has said that the agitation launched by the lawyers and the opposition on the issue of the action against the chief justice can be considered as a conspiracy against national interests

He warned that if the opposition did not change its attitude, he had the right to dissolve the Sindh Assembly.

He was talking to journalists after prize distribution ceremony of Shikarpur Festival in Wazirabad on Thursday.

Dr Rahim said that the lawyers and the opposition leaders were trying to destroy peaceful atmosphere in the country and particularly in Sindh.

Answering a question about a statement made by Leader of the Opposition in Sindh Assembly, Nisar Ahmed Khuhro, the chief minister said that he wanted to serve the people well hence how could he (chief minister) hurl threats to the people. However, he said if Mr Khuhro was taking his very statement as a threat then ‘my threat to him is to avoid unfair attitude of creating confusion between the people and the government.”

Earlier Dr Rahim visited Shikarpur Festival, witnessed the horse and cattle show and sports festival organized by the district government.

District Nazim Mohammad Arif Mahar presented a shield, an Ajrak and a Sindhi cap to the chief minister.

The chief minister gave away shields to Mr Mahar, DCO Khwaja Shafiq Ahmed, festival coordinator Zahid Memon, convenor Dr Abdullah Sethar and deputy convener Abdul Karim Sehto.

Speaking on the occasion, the chief minister said that district governments would be encouraged to hold cultural festivals and horse and cattle shows throughout the province.

Courtesy - Dawn, March 16, 2007 Friday Safar 26, 1428 (T)

For a country that has no fricking law, there sure are a lot of screaming, shouting, misbehaving lawyers in the Land of the Pure. Can anyone buy a black and white outfit and start to riot?

So what there is C.J ii Pak or U.S. Attorney BOTH can be fired


White House backtracks in row over U.S. attorneys
POSTED: 12:07 p.m. EDT, March 12, 2007
Story Highlights• Bill would end attorney general`s power to appoint prosecutors minus Senate OK
• Fired U.S. attorneys allege pressure from Justice Department, lawmakers
• Alberto Gonzales agrees to let aides testify about dismissals without subpoenas
• Reversal abrupt for administration known for standing firm despite opposition
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Slapped even by GOP allies, the Bush administration is beating an abrupt retreat on eight federal prosecutors it fired and then publicly pilloried.

Just hours after Attorney General Alberto Gonzales dismissed the hubbub as an ``overblown personnel matter,`` a Republican senator Thursday mused that Gonzales might soon suffer the same fate as the canned U.S. attorneys.

A short time later, Gonzales and his security detail shuttled to the Capitol for a private meeting on Democratic turf, bearing two offerings:


President Bush would not stand in the way of a Democratic-sponsored bill that would cancel the attorney general`s power to appoint federal prosecutors without Senate confirmation. Gonzales` Justice Department previously had dismissed the legislation as unreasonable.


There would be no need for subpoenas to compel testimony by five of Gonzales` aides involved in the firings, as the Democrats had threatened. Cloistered in the stately hideaway of Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Pat Leahy, D-Vermont, the attorney general assured those present that he would permit the aides to tell their stories.

It was a striking reversal for an administration noted for standing its ground even in the face of overwhelming opposition.

Gone were the department`s biting assertions that the prosecutors were a bunch of ``disgruntled employees grandstanding before Congress.``

And the department no longer tried to shrug off the uproar as ``an overblown personnel matter,`` as Gonzales had written in an opinion piece published Thursday in USA Today.

Agency officials also ceased describing majority Democrats as lawmakers who would ``would rather play politics`` than deal with facts.

The shift from offense to silence was so abrupt that one of Bush`s chief advisers who was speaking out of town apparently missed the memo.

``My view is this is unfortunately a very big attempt by some in the Congress to make a political stink about it,`` presidential adviser Karl Rove said Thursday during a speech at the University of Arkansas Clinton School of Public Service.

Back in Washington, a consensus was emerging among senators of both parties, and Gonzales himself, that the firings had been botched chiefly because the prosecutors had not been told the reasons for their dismissals.

The matter snowballed -- some of those fired complained publicly, and a senior Justice Department official warned one that further complaints in the press would force the agency to defend itself, according to an e-mail made public this week.

On Tuesday, during an eight-hour marathon of congressional hearings, the Justice Department followed through. William Moschella, principal associate deputy attorney general, publicly enumerated the reasons each prosecutor was fired, one by one.

Flash forward two days, to Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, reading Gonzales` USA Today column into the record. He paused.

``One day there will be a new attorney general, maybe sooner rather than later,`` he mused. ``But these [prosecutors] who were plastered across the newspapers all across the country, they will never recover their reputations.``

Two staunch White House allies, Sens. Jon Kyl of Arizona and Jeff Sessions of Alabama, lamented the damage to the prosecutors` resumes -- adding, however, that the uproar had been the result of poor execution rather than a political purge.

The prosecutors weren`t the only ones whose reputations suffered. One, New Mexico`s David Iglesias, said the dismissals followed calls from members of Congress -- Sen. Pete Domenici and Rep. Heather Wilson, New Mexico Republicans -- concerning sensitive political corruption investigations.

Still unclear is whether Gonzales will allow his aides to speak with the Senate panel in private or at a public hearing. The House Judiciary Committee on Thursday also demanded to speak with the officials.

They are: Michael Elston, Kyle Sampson, Monica Goodling, Bill Mercer and Mike Battle.

Sampson is Gonzales` chief of staff, Elston is staff chief to Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty and Mercer is associate attorney general. Goodling is Gonzales` senior counsel and White House liaison, and Battle is the departing director of the office that oversees the 93 U.S. attorneys.