Men in Khaki

india just lost to bangladesh!

pakistan well on the way to losing to ireland.

both teams should hang their heads in shame.

there is no such thing as a good dictator. musharaff should go sooner rather than later.
since we are in farsi speaking mode, musharraf should be aware of this saying, `agar dar khaneh kas ast, yek harf bas ast`.

Re: # 81 Tahmed

``“I am blamed for everything,”

That is shameful behavior on the part of the Generalissmo. A ship`s captain is ultmately responsible for its well being. Nobody put a gun to the General`s head to act on Shaukat`s `recommendation` (if indeed that was the case). But if he did, then he should accept responsibility for it and quit blaming others. Also, Musharraf successfuly blamed Nawaz for Kargil -- he is one helluva slippery eel. I say screw the el Presidente. Long live the Chief Justice!

#58, Hamidum2 {``when i was growing up my maternal grandfather used to tease me for being the son of a `teez-mar` (gas-passing) `dal-khor` punjabi so i never wanted to be identified as a punjabi ....... but then he also used to say things like ``urdu sheer ast, farsi sheer o` shakar ast, pukhtu goz-i-khar ast `` (urdu is like milk, farsi is milk and sugar and pushtu is like a donkey`s fart`)``}

Hamidum Sahib,

Kheili mamnuman...Hal-e-shoma chetor ast?
Bebakhshid, what did your wise maternal grandfather say about Punjabi? To many of us it sounds like someone shouting very loudly and painfully with marbles rolling around in his mouth.
Urdu is merely a half-hearted attempt at preserving our wonderful Farsi language and adab that was forcibly taken away from us by the British in the early 19th century. :(

#74 Ally {``Urdu is no longer just your language it is the national language and therefore everyone in the country will know some of it at least to get by... ``}

Ally,
When you PPPs cure yourself of your verbal handicap and speech impediment concerning the Q and K; Kh and K; and Gh and G sounds, please come back and tell us that Urdu is your language too. :)

Bollywood actors, including Hindu ones, have done a wonderful job in adopting Urdu as the lingua franca of the Indian entertainment world. The least you could do is to emulate their success. You guys not only massacre us in our own city, but do you have to butcher our language too?

When the going gets tough....
....the tough point to their prime minister

(From Dawn)
No personal differences with chief justice: Musharraf
...Addressing a rally in the eastern city of Pakpatan, Musharraf termed the attack on a private TV channel a conspiracy aimed at lowering his image. He said he had “no personal differences” with Justice Chaudhry, and had acted against the judge after receiving a case against him from the prime minister. “I am blamed for everything,” state-run Pakistan Television quoted him as saying.

Revolt is brewing in the ranks of Pak army, 6 corps commanders have expressed discontent with the Pervez Musharraf. It is also reported that Tariq Aziz orchestrated the attack on Geo news:
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/mar/17pakcj.htm

Dear Interactors,

Does anyone think that this thing with the judiciary is actually going to make a real difference to the way power is shared in Pakistan or is it just another mini-replay of what we have seen countless times before?

It is a genuine question, serious answers only, please!

My own guess is ``no`` - but my knowledge is less expansive than every other chowkie here!

Regarding #77 itself regarding #74,
...and Sir Lancelot (an ALLY of King Arthur) was speechless. :)

Re: # 74

...... have you heard the one about sir arthur, his ahle-zaban knight and the chastity belt ?

#73 by hamidm2 on March 17, 2007 1:33pm PT
{``Re: # 71
salim mian,
``Maulana Urstruly`s defamation of a public figure`` ........ i am sorry, now who did he defame ?.......... i must have missed it ........ but you really shouldn`t pay too much attention to urstruly - he is a wretched soul who hates everyone ......``}

Hamidum Sahib,
Maulana Urstruly swore that Mrs. Sehba Musharraf is a ``Mirzaee.`` This is an utter lie and deliberate defamation against the First Lady of Pakistan. Had it been true, I would have defended her right to practice the faith of her choice.

I pay a lot of attention to Maulana Urstruly - for very good reason. While I am not at all frightened of the so-called `liberal`` PPPs such as Zeemax, Manto Bhai, and Chacha Buttees, Maulana Urstruly and his type are of significant concern - they have even managed to entice some stupid Mohajirs to their side. The ``liberal`` elite among the PPPs are a known group of Mohajir-haters that all of us recognize and none of us trusts.

Ally #74 {``what you think or dont think is of no concern to me or most other ppl...``}

Ally,
Likewise - now we are getting somewhere. :) Most of us Mohajirs just want to be free from oppression. You go your way, we`ll go ours. Peace be unto you. :) You pull your Army out of Karachi and we will ask Mushy to come home. :)

Salim

That reply was meant for Hamid Sahib anywayus, I`m not really bothered what you think, Urdu is no longer just your language it is the national language and therefore everyone in the country will know some of it at least to get by... but as English is being used more people will know Urdu but not give it as much importance... this is happening all over Pakistan and India in those areas where Urdu/Hindi isn`t the native language for ppl... i dont associate Urdu with mohajirs for us its simply a link language that links the various ppl together... what you think or dont think is of no concern to me or most other ppl...

Re: # 71

salim mian,

``Maulana Urstruly`s defamation of a public figure`` ........ i am sorry, now who did he defame ?.......... i must have missed it ........ but you really shouldn`t pay too much attention to urstruly - he is a wretched soul who hates everyone ......

Ally Sahib #51 {``in my family at least my cousins dont speak Urdu i.. i feel there seems to be bit of a Punjabi renaissance, ...slowly Urdu will lose its prominence in Punjab as English takes over... ``}

Ally Sahib,
Very few of us Mohajirs are Urdu missionaries. We don`t care if you switch to Serbo-Croat or Swahili as your mother tongue. :)

Judging from the standard of PPP usage of English on Chowk, we can safely assume that Lahore will not be confused for London anytime soon. :)

#65 by anil on March 17, 2007 12:28pm PT
{``Hamidm Sahib:

Please go easy on Salim sahib, and continue to support him. He and Yasser stand out at Chowk. Salim was only correcting the fundoo Urstruly`s attempt to misinform chowkies.``}

Anil Bhai,
Thank you for noticing and explaining my sense of outrage at Maulana Urstruly`s defamation of a public figure. Our steamed Hamidum Sahib will buy Urstruly a drink but will not spank him for lying in public - it`s a PPP thing.

Honestly, as an insignificant Mohajir and a hated traitor, I don`t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with the honorable future PM of Pakistani Punjab. :)