Men in Khaki

Chauhan sahib:

You have been very angry the past few days, but do try to calm down. The lawyers in Pakistan are doing nothing wrong. They are protesting. It is good to see a section of the upper class register their annoyance. They should have done so a long time back, especially when children were bombed by the US. Pakistanis need to fight for democracy. Now this may mean that the clergy comes to power (I doubt that though) and rights are further curtailed. But so what, if people do not like them then they ought to fight again. The fight for democracy should not be detered by the threat of fundamentalists comming to power. If people choose the fundamentalists then so be it. I strongly believe that Iranians are more politicized than Pakistanis and Iran is more democratic than Pakistan. As far as India is concerned, it is better for her to deal with real Pakistanis than with the `brown-sahibs` who claim to represent the people of Pakistan.

For a country that has no fricking law, there sure are a lot of screaming, shouting, misbehaving lawyers in the Land of the Pure. Can anyone buy a black and white outfit and start to riot?

Re: # 31
I had written same thing, about picture of lawyer throwing brick to kill policeman. This is not going to lead to democracy but ancharchy and disruption. All this troubles started as CJ wanted to become executive boss.
PM Aziz as a PM has right to make economy decision. He wanted to privatise PSM so it start bleeding of money. It is white elephant producing misery and poverty. And he has contracted eith Arab company and russian co to sell that PSM. Judge stopped this plan. He should not get involved in such thing. Politics is money and more money. that was wrong doing. Now decision was taken at highest level od president and PM and elected people should have right to whatever they want about PSM.
Secondly missing people he should have not encouraged litigation. Things are not best. Now its open secret many missing people are transferred by GOP to usa prison in Cuba. So for national interest CJ should have used commonsense and avoided prooblems of missing people.
There is possibility of war or some action against Iran by USA so in such situation its better to have stability. Constitution is fine book and nothing more or less than useless unuseful impractical book. Hopw CJ asks nations forgiveness and resigns so national life goes on. Most of lawyer spent most of time defending rich and corroupt people, they are hired guns. Lawyers are disgusting bunch ( mohatma was one of them), They will kill loot and cheat any body for money, bunch of hooligans stone throwers.

Re: # 45

ahmedmadani, i hope what you written is tongue in cheek. Otherwise, I believe our so call intelligentsia needs to have a reality check.

I just don`t understand why does Musharraf wants to go through the sham of democracy. Just declare himself dictator (cause he surely acts like one) in supreme national interest. That way he can keep abducting people,privatize assets, sell and allot property in Gwadar, clamp down on freedom of press in supreme national interests and people like you and me can be assured that its all for the betterment of country.

``He came to power through the back door by toppling a popularly elected PM in a macabre drama in which he was painted as a ‘victim’. ...``

and all of Pakistan celebrated..Pakista ni intelligentsia is 100% complicit in the overthrowing of democracy on a regular basis.

Reaction in Sindh - obviously there are far more important matters than misbehaving and terrorist lawyers. The treasonous liars are getting no sympathy other than in Poonzab.


SHIKARPUR: CM threatens to dissolve Sindh Assembly

By Our Correspondent

SHIKARPUR, March 15: Sindh Chief Minister Dr Arbab Ghulam Rahim has said that the agitation launched by the lawyers and the opposition on the issue of the action against the chief justice can be considered as a conspiracy against national interests

He warned that if the opposition did not change its attitude, he had the right to dissolve the Sindh Assembly.

He was talking to journalists after prize distribution ceremony of Shikarpur Festival in Wazirabad on Thursday.

Dr Rahim said that the lawyers and the opposition leaders were trying to destroy peaceful atmosphere in the country and particularly in Sindh.

Answering a question about a statement made by Leader of the Opposition in Sindh Assembly, Nisar Ahmed Khuhro, the chief minister said that he wanted to serve the people well hence how could he (chief minister) hurl threats to the people. However, he said if Mr Khuhro was taking his very statement as a threat then ‘my threat to him is to avoid unfair attitude of creating confusion between the people and the government.”

Earlier Dr Rahim visited Shikarpur Festival, witnessed the horse and cattle show and sports festival organized by the district government.

District Nazim Mohammad Arif Mahar presented a shield, an Ajrak and a Sindhi cap to the chief minister.

The chief minister gave away shields to Mr Mahar, DCO Khwaja Shafiq Ahmed, festival coordinator Zahid Memon, convenor Dr Abdullah Sethar and deputy convener Abdul Karim Sehto.

Speaking on the occasion, the chief minister said that district governments would be encouraged to hold cultural festivals and horse and cattle shows throughout the province.

Courtesy - Dawn, March 16, 2007 Friday Safar 26, 1428 (T)

what the heck is the big deal here..optics of democratic freedoms don;t mean that there are institutions of democracy in place. Pakistan is a political basketcase. in a country of 160 million people, there is not one leader that can be produced. What is the reason? Punjoos, islam, weak stomach for political pain among the populace, need for a prophet, cousin marriages..etc etc..

Now it`s all becoming clear. The Paki Mahapunju ex-PM is calling the shots via remote control and the PPPs are all responding:

Nawaz backs protests

By Our Special Correspondent

LONDON, March 15: Former prime minister Nawaz Sharif has appealed to the nation to participate in protests being held across Pakistan on Friday. In a statement issued here on Thursday, the PML-N chief said that the time had come for the people to ensure that those who dared to subjugate the judiciary were held accountable.

Mr Sharif said that after destroying the constitution and subjugating parliament, Gen Musharraf had now launched an attack on the institution responsible for providing justice to the people.

He said that the action against the chief justice had proven that the general was capable of going to any length in violating the tenets of law, civilised norms and morality to safeguard his “unconstitutional, illegal, undemocratic and immoral rule”.

The PML-N leader appealed to the youth, intellectuals, traders, labourers, students, elders and other sections of society to join lawyers in their protest to rid the country of those who had put the very existence of the country at risk.

Mr Sharif pledged to stand shoulder to shoulder with the people in this struggle and to render every sacrifice required.

Courtesy - Dawn March 16, 2007 Friday Safar 26, 1428

#21 Zeemax {``As long as you`re a Pakistani (or claim to be), Punjaibis are the majority and they will always have the last say in major decisions, as you`re seeing right now. There`s not even been a stir in your Karachi. ``}

Ghazeemax Niazeemax,
There you go again with your PPP concept of ``democracy.`` True democracy does not mean mob rule, throwing bricks, or getting fondled by your fellow PPPs in black and white. Yes, I am an American citizen of Pakistani origin and I don`t have to convince you or any other PPPs - many of your cohorts have called me an Indian Muslim once they fail to counter my arguments.

PPPs may be the majority, but there is such a thing known as local government. Right now Karachi is enjoying a renaissance thank to limited self-rule and wise leadership. Therefore, no stir in Karachi in sympathy for the corrupt CJ or for the crazy PPP brick-throwing liars.

As for numbers, don`t forget that Saraikis don`t want to be included in the PPP numbers. They want self-determination for themselves. There are 15 million Urdu-speaking Pakis and another 100 million or more Urdu-speaking Muslims in the neighborhood. Don`t force us to get together with our own cousins. If those numbers are not convincing enough for you, perhaps another 400 - 500 million Hindi speakers may convince you about majority rule. :)

Re: # 25

salim mian,

........... even though i am one of your most ardent admirers and supporters, i think this is one of the stoopidist posts i have read on the chowk - and god knows there is no dearth of stupidity on this forum .............. you are loosing it - please come back

#22, {``The manhandling of the CJ was wrong (it`s being investigated by the Supreme Court), but sending a reference against him to the Supreme Judicial Council is absolutely legal and proper. ...Nobody is above the law, not even the CJ. ``}

Your Excellency,
Very mature viewpoint and certainly more appealing than the swarms of liars marching up and down the province of Punjab trying to use this as an excuse to commit excesses again. Thanks.

#21 Zeemax,
Zeemax,
I love Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Christians, Parsis, Buddhists, Shia Muslims, Hanafi Muslims, Ahmedi Muslims, and most other Muslims - all except for Wahaboobies like you, you pathetic racist loser and a PPP type. I have seen the picture of yourself that you have posted, and believe me, you ain`t purty, just barely human. Being descended from Persian, Turkish, and Rajput ancestors, I have nothing to brag about or be ashmed of. In the end, our own thoughts and deeds on this earth determine our pecking order - so you better go borrow a pecker.

re: Karamatullah Ghori

Are you certain that Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry did not abuse his authority to get his son into police and live a lifestyle beyond the salary of a judge? Please share evidence to prove his innocence, before casting your verdict.

The manhandling of the CJ was wrong (it`s being investigated by the Supreme Court), but sending a reference against him to the Supreme Judicial Council is absolutely legal and proper. If there are any allegations against the man, he should answer to SJC. A judge with allegations of nepotism cannot function with moral authority. If Iftikhar Chaudhry is cleared by the SJC, his moral authority as CJ will be reinstated. Otherwise, he should be sent home to uphold the dignity of the Supreme Court.

Nobody is above the law, not even the CJ.

The govt`s decision to ban media coverage is also correct because this matter is sub judice. Media and opposition cannot be allowed to become judge, jury and executioner in its own cause.

However, characters like Wasi Zafar should be restrained because they just embarass the govt. And the SJC should not include the Acting CJ Justice Javed Iqbal.

Chorro yaar Salim Bhai .. forget it.

Stop your rants. You have nothing to prove with facts and figures. I know you love hindoos, so go and sit in monkey laps and become a monkey. As long as you`re a Pakistani (or claim to be), Punjabis are the majority and they will always have the last say in major decisions, as you`re seeing right now. There`s not even been a stir in your Karachi.

So, open your eyes and come out of your delusions. If you look like a dravidian, that`s ok. You can go to bhindiland.

GaaoN ma aag lagat he, aur susrey punjaibi buRhyaaN kahat hen ke koi humrey kanghan nahin dekhat he.

Today, the swarthy swarms of PPPs are marching, screaming, shouting, and throwing bricks against Mushy. Tomorrow these qismat ke maray haramzaaday will be marching, screaming, shouting, and throwing bricks at Ameer-ul-Momineen Hajrat Fajlur Rehman against having only two weeks to grow a foot long beard.

#17, Zeemax,
Hot air, lying, and malicious bragging seem to be a PPP ethnic trait. You guys all talk big and then always end up signing the Jagjit Singh Arora papers. Wanna see the picture?